JUNE 07...Starting thread!

[nannyjo]

Well i think i was the frist to 'pop' from the due in june thread so i thought it was about time we started the post-natal thread.

DS2 is 2 weeks on monday I had him 4 weeks early due to induction for OC. Everything is going really well and i think things are finally starting to settle down (i hope i haven't just spoken too soon!!)

He is really suffering with colic though and were getting about 4 hours sleep a night on average and with a 2.5 year old there is no chance of catching up in the day, but i shouldn't complain as i'm lucky to have got two wonderful boys. Thats it now NO MORE!!!!!9smile0

I know a few other june mums have had their babies so it would be lovely to hear from you to see how you are all getting on (when you get the chance )

And infacol...worked a treat for me last time (just so you don't get lonely, nannyjo zx)

is there still no-one else who can join me??

I've not been on for a while but hoped by now there would be lots of you to join in It is only the 3rd i s'pose.

I have been back in hospital again this week!! There was part of the placenta left and i was rushed into A&E with post natal hemoarage (can not spell!!)
It was all very scarey, I experienced the crash team come running for me and a visit to resuscitation!! Fluids and blood transfusions later i am now OK except very tired and with a very low iron count that will take time to return to normal.

Otherwise and on a more positive note DS is doing really well and i got 2 nights in a row with more than 3 hours sleep, YIPPEE! I hope this is him settling down now but i guess i shouldn't speak to soon.

Hurry up mums to be, i feel a bit like billy no mates on here at the moment.

Good luck to you all, i look forward to hearing some good news soon.
NJxx

Just wanted to post quickly so you don't feel lonely on here Nannyjo. I don't have a baby yet but hope I will fairly soon. Some others on the june thread look on the verge but not much action yet!
Glad things are going better with your DS and despite your scary experience yesterday.
See you soon, hopefully

Hi!!!!!

Sorry just dashing in and out again but wanted to make sure this came up on my active threads page so hopefully later I can find you again!

Off to Dr later - possible UTI for me (or post-c-sect pain can't tell which) - cough and eczema for DS - oh dear.

Plus my new little girl has me worried she's still losing weight and it's day 10. We're giving her 2 more days before we go into full panic mode and get her into hospital for a check. And I'm bottle feeding, it's very odd

Nannyjo is there any pattern to your nights yet? (she asks hopefully, trying to forget the early days/nights with DS & reflux...)

lilkelbel,

I hope your little ones weight picks up soon for you, it's all such a worry in these early days isn't it. Is your midwife seeing you regularly?

It's a bit pot luck still at the moment as to whether he'll sleep for more than an hour at a time but the last 2 nights we've got 2 lots of 2 1/2 hour sleeps so 5 hours in total which has been more than any other night so far.

I'm not sure i've got enough milk for him tho, i'm sure i'm emptying out too quickly and he could take more if i had it so i'm not sure what to do now. Don't want to go to formula just yet but i may have to i think he'd sleep better then to?

Hi nannyjo and likel - looking fwd to joining you sometime soon. sorry to hear you've both been going through it. Nannyjo, sounds very scarey, hope you're feeling better and that things pick up quickly on the iron level front etc. The colic thing is tough but should pass eventually, we found baby massage was great for this, infacol and also lying dd on her back and moving her legs like she was riding a bike really helped to shift any trapped wind. Hugs to you both and see you on here soon hopefully x

thanks twiga

maybe I'll try that lying on your back thing and cycling legs myself! bit tough at the loo these days, no matter how many prunes I eat...grrr....I'm also taking iron tabs so that isn't helping I'm sure. Other than that I'm feeling pretty good - going to bed at 9pm certainly helps!

Good news: My girl put on 100g or so overnight after I chucked her 3-hour routine and just fed her on demand ((HOORAY! Well- hooray for the gain but not hooray for FOD)) She's weighed again tomorrow and then again Monday. Fingers crossed!

I general I am pro-routine as I'm a control freak and with DS toddling around I depend on order, so hopefully this demand feeding phase won't need to last for toooooo long.

I'm the same lilkelbel, things were a lot more managable with the three hour routine especailly with an older one but DS wasn't putting on much weight or sleeping well between feeds so i'm now feeding on demand but it means its hard to plan what to do when to go out etc with older one, also it means he wants to be on the breast all day long for a comfort thing now but getting the weight on is more important at the moment i think.

Midwife advised me to feed little and often too to help flush through the jaundice?

Hey there

No baby yet- but just popping in to say hello...and an observation: with breastfeeding you might do best with 2 hour feed rather than 3 as it's more easily digested than formula so goes through them quicker? Then you can still keep a little structure to your day? Just memories resurfacing from DD's babyhood.

Hello from the land of the sleep deprived.

Maybe it is just lack of sleep but my MIL is really driving me crazy. TBH I can't wait till she goes home on Friday morning! . The problem is she's hyper critical of everything I do, and she doesn't speak English. I understand her German, but can't respond very well. Translation: she does what she wants after announcing to me that what I've done is wrong, then I can't reply. God, it's frustrating!!!!

My own mum arrives next week - looking forward to that.

We're formula feeding so at least my poor norks are spared the torture of feeding on demand this time round. I wouldn't be able to cope!

My DH has announced the first evening he'll be out, leaving me alone with both LOs to get through dinner, bath, and bedtime. Yikes. I'm not ready to contemplate that yet!!!!

Can I join you......

Emily Isabelle born 05/06. She's feeding like a trooper and I'm not too sore of boob. section scar giving me a bit of grief and has been a bit weepy at one end. Getting a bit more mobile every day and our first night at home has gone very well. I put her down at just after 11:00, she woke for a feed at 2:30, fed for an hour and that was her until 7:00am. Long may this continue. She's been a bit of a monster this morning and fed on and off for nearly two hours, but then she found her fingers and sucked herself to sleep, so I think a lot of it is comfort sucking.

Nannyjo, sorry to hear about the colic. DS went through a phase of it, but thankfully it only lasted a week...but that was possibly the longest week of my life.

Just a quick post, and I've loaded some photos onto my profile page now!

Talk to you all later!

Roll up! Roll up!

Derlor, Kittykit, Daisyboo, Brownsuga, Fannieannie, Nattythomasandellen...where are you??

Put down your adorable bundles and come say hello!

x-post Lilkel........just trying to regain some meaning and structure to my days, and feeling a bit sad that my days of sitting on MN all day are over . Will pop in when I can, but luckily so far Em's routine is pretty good!

D'boo, glad to see the telepathic link is working . Let me get this right - E fed only once last night? !!!! Love the new pics - your DS is such a grown up looking little man!

I'm still demand feeding S but she is showing signs of growth, thank goodness. Took 2.5 oz this morning at once which was a big .

Nannyjo whassup? Feeling stronger after that scary hemmorage episode I hope? I'm also on iron supps as I lost 800ml blood in my section - switched to spatone because the tablets turned my intestines to stone - ouch... And how is feeding/colic going?

meaning? structure? surely you jest! I consider it a major accomplisment if I brush my teeth sometime before noon at this point!

Sounds like the hormones are hitting you kind of hard now, it's day 4 for you, right? we're here for you - don't forget that -

feeling a bit at sea hormonally.....the hospital went nuts when they found out I was taking prozac and said it really isn't indicated for BF. so, they are swapping me to Seroxat, but I have to stop the prozac for a week. Not exactly the best time to be mucking about, but if its best for Em then so be it. DH is being wonderful, although if he askes me how I'm doing again (six times so far this morning!!), I'm going to chew his head off....well not really as he's being such a love. I fancied some sweets, and he's driven around three shops trying to find the ones I wanted.

Nannyjo, I've just caught up with things on here...sorry to hear about your PPH. That sounds awful, but it's good you're on the mend. Your LO must seem positively ancient now compared to all these little newborns.

I had a bit of a moment in the hospital. they took out the catheter at about midnight on Tue/Wed and I'd been to the loo perfectly happily three or four times during the course of wednesday. I fed her at about teatime and as I stood up to put her in the cot, i just felt this gush. I thought it was blood and had to hang onto the bed to stop myself passing out and when i looked it was wee....and lots and lots of it and I had absolutely no control and couldn't stop. I just stood there and sobbed with wee running everywhere, imagining myself incontinent forever[sad. Thankfully it was a one off and I was assured it's quite common after epidural/catheter/abdominal surgery. I thought I was going to have to phone DH and get him to bring me incontinence pants

So, I'm doing frantic pelvic floor exercises everytime E feeds!!

right off for a shower before DH goes out and I get stranded in the bath!

More later....good luck with all the feeding!

Hey all - make sure you get any child benefit which you are due - it's not affected by age or income, and if you've been a duitful taxpayer, well here's your chance to get something back from the system for once! OK so it's only about £18 a week, but that's at least one pair of shoes a month by my calculations claim your child benefit here

Daisy - funny, I was on prozac when DS was born and my GP was happier to keep me on it than make me switch ADs. As of last year, Prozac was neither 'indicated' nor 'contraindicated' for BF, and in her view it was more disruptive to me to stop Prozac, wait, and start Seroxat than was worthwhile. I guess I took comfort that there is no evidence that Prozac in breastmilk does any harm. Such a tough area b/c it's just ethically impossible to do trial testing on newborns...understandably!!

I hope it all settles for you soon -

Thanks Lilkel...I did tell them about you!!

They reckoned that it would be safest to switch as I've only been on the prozac for less than three weeks it wouldn't have reached full therapeutic levels anyway, bit there would be enough in my system to last me the week before taking the seroxat. Also because I'd be dealing with the normal PN hormone surges anyway, it would be as good a time as any to do the switch. Holding it together....just...but there have been one or two moments. I'm finding it really difficult to deal with DS who in turn is feeling quite neglected and is getting very clingy. Trying hard to spend one on one time with him, but he usually ends up bashing me in the boob or belly and can't really understand my anguish. but, tomorrow we plan to curl up on the sofa together with a film and some story books so hopefully things will be better soon!

My scar has been really sore today and is a bit weepy, but the MW had a look and says that it appears to be the stitch rather than the wound which is looking a bit red and puffy. They're keeping an eye on things and have recommended leaving the stitches in for another day or two. Feeling really washed out still and stairs are an absolute killer.

Oops, Em's whimpering is getting louder, better go and get her this time!

Later!

Daisy have you tried Arnica tablets (30c strength) between meals? I've been eating them like candy since my op and convinced it helps keep the scar puffiness down - though at the end of the day it's always worse than it looks in the morning. I really hope it all improves for you soon - especially DS! ((HUGS))

S is finally taking more than 1oz at a time (we actually had a 3oz feed!! WHOO HOO) but man, the nights are tough work!! Last night she had feeds at 10:30, midnight, 2:45, 4:15, 6am, 7:15am....

DH and I deal with it by dividing the night into shifts. He takes 8pm-midnight, then I'm on from 12-4am, then it's him again. Saves those awkward moments when you're half asleep tapping him on the shoulder saying, "should I get up? Or you?" Instead it's just "YOUR TURN!"

welcome daisyboo. Congratulations

Lilkelbel, how is your little ones weight now? I had that with DS1 i was feeding so little and often. It took a long time but he put on the weight eventually. sowly but surely

Hooray It's so nice to hear more of you have had your babies and coming over here

Things are settling down with us. Colic seems to have gone and the nights are slightly easier but i think it is more due to me having to top up my milk with formula

I really wanted to breast feed for a while longer but i just don't have enough milk for him. i think that is whyt the first few weeks were so unsettled as he was just still hungry no matter how much i fed him. It might not have even been colic, just frustration at stll being hungry!!

Now i 'empty' myself out then give another 3oz of fformula. i'll do that till i run dry which i feel i am on the way to anyway.

I was really p**d off with my midwife. i explained all this to her, her reply was 'probably a good idea love, what with the feeding and cholestasis, i don't think your body is very good at babies do you? i don't think it wuld be a good idea to have a third do you?'

I hope your all doing well

sorry meant 'slowly but surely', i'm Bfeeding and typing one handed while DS1 is trashing the office, oops bad mother i am!

Nannyjo at that silly cow MW!!!! What a ridiculous thing to say!!!! I swear we really could start a list of stupidest things ever uttered to pg women or new mums. T'would take all day to compile!

My offerings would be:

MW in hospital to me on day 2 after CS, when called to my room to discuss whether I should be concerned about DD sicking up a lot after a BF, "Oh she's fine, don't worry. But look at the size of your bump! It' so big! Sure you don't have another one in there??"

MiL at our house to DH and me: "Oh you don't want a 3rd. Two kids is enough." (Insert smug satisfied look of all-knowingness here).

Grrrr!!!!

Hi - Do you mind if I join you? I have been a lurker for a while, and my first baby - Kirsty - arrived last saturday on the 2nd June (due on the 13th)- 6lb 7oz after an emergency section due to prolonged labour (2cm in 24 hours and dropping heartbeat). I also have a weepy and sore scar which is still numb!

Am getting used to motherhood, and think from what I have read, we have a very good little girl who only feeds once during the night. I am feeding forumla though - and she takes 4oz a time. We've had a few wind problems, and found infacol wonderful.

My insensitive comment of the week was when a community MW I hadn't met before arrived on Wednesday (day 5) to remove stitches / do heel prick. She looked at me and said - oh, am I here to do an ante-natal or post-natal visit? -I was mortified and didn't know what to say - as if I don't feel fat and unattractive enough already .

I don't know how regulrly I'll be able to post, but you are all full of very useful advice, so I hope you don't mind me barging in asking questions when I get stuck!