It's the Christmas party at Mugabe nights, pull up a bar stool and order your shots! August 2015

[FattyNinjaOwl]

New thread for all the regulars at the bar, and the not so regulars too.

I'm here! Thanks for reassurance, I feel a bit silly getting so worried but I think I might be slightly vom-phobic. It really stresses me out. He's done more poos overnight but kept down feeds (so far).

😂 to your H Joskar, nice of him to give you some light relief while you're poorly.

I think you're right MzzF that you'll always have some worries/guilt about nursery, but you inow what they say about happy mum, happy baby. Also mini MzzF might be so nackered after a day at nursery that she'll sleep through 👍

Clstow I was properly vom phobic before DS. I would get uncontrollably sick at the sight, smell, sound, or sometimes thought of it. DS has been a rather forceful desensitisation treatment!

or to everyone who was up all night. DS otoh has just done his fourth ever sleeping through the night. 11-5.30, and he woke up all happy and was just playing and gurgling in the cot even though he had a nappy full of wee and was definitely hungry. He's now dozing on my lap having a nice fart!

Ugh. Sore throat and feel like I'm going to throw up morning Mugabeans.

Siani - well done team hedgehog! I feel like shining a bright light in your eyes and yelling "tell me what you know, tell me how you did it?!!!"

DD was not having an issue falling asleep it was the being asleep alone in the cot she wasn't having. So at 2.30 I cracked and she came in with us and slept until 6am. I can't sleep fully when she's in bed but anything is better than the crying. She's been super clingy since our night away...

I feel like I have to keep persisting with the cot though for DH and my own sake! I'm guessing this clingy-ness is part of her regression because we couldn't have really got less sleep.

Morning! The less said about last night the better I think.
He's lying on the bed next to me shouting at the news now. I'm going to try very hard to get the first nap right this morning because we fucked it up yesterday and everything went to shit after.

lily, clstow, fatty, jockstar and anyone else with poorly babies or who is poorly, I hope today is better.

Happy birthday everything's ds1! 🎈I hope you have a great day and that your dh got you lots of yummy kids goodies to keep you going after a shit night.

I'm getting dh a hat for Christmas jockstar! Might be an idea for yours as well? 😉

mzzf, babies are pretty adaptable. I'm sure she will be fine if you do send her to nursery. It's probably one of those things that you never know how it's going to go until you try.
I didn't have spd, but if I did I would have definetly paid to see someone private if the nhs waiting was long.

Have a nice time with your parents fanby. That sounds like a growth spurt.

That's a great chunk of sleep tindel! Well done J. And well done Fergus on a great sleep for siani.

Morning all. Should have been here at 5 for a nappy feed nappy nappy feed marathon but to my horror neither of my sanity devices had been plugged in and had 3% battery between them so had 45 min feed in dark without device.

I was very vomphobic but have been well desensitised by F. Full feed voms not unusual but she usually wants more almost instantly!

No DS if we don't go to bed till after 11 and wake for feed at 2am then we are not getting up for the day 4:30. No matter how many times you refuse to sleep. Fanby am wondering the exact same thing. DS has basically been feeding constantly since 4:30. Surely must be a growth spurt. He has finally dosed off in my arms with a nappy full of poo. But am just going to leave him. Bad mummy but I will smoother him in sudacream afterwards. For now sleep is most important for him.

Ah mzzzf that's so tough. The thought of nursery / child minder makes me so stressed and I'm not going back till July. Could you take a see how it goes approach? It's hard though. For all my moaning about being bored and lonely the thought of leaving him makes me feel stressed to. Bloody maternal guilt. Massive cliche but just do what feels right. And I didn't have spd in pregnancy but would have happily thrown £40 at someone to take my sickness away. So am sure there are people that would.

Anyone got any matchsticks for my eyes? DS had a terrible night too. Nice to see I wasn't alone. DH got up with the toddler though so we stayed in bed until 9. No poos here since Saturday though so think he's feeling a bit uncomfy.

Mzzf, I was worried about nursery before I went back to work after my first but it was so good for DD. She got to do things there I couldn't do with her at home and got over her shyness too.

Kbro, I think my DS and yours are in cahoots as that was our night too!

Tindel and Siani, nice chunks of sleep there. Not jealous at all. No siree. Just very happy for you both .

Joskar, that is quite a picture. What has he dons to remedy it or did you tell him it wasn't really noticeable?

Fatty, down a bottle of Buttercup syrup. If nothing else it should make you feel high!

Have great days everyone.

A Christmas miracle has occurred chez frolic!!! Ds is napping in his crib and he did it all by himself! Yipppeeee!!
I left him
In there while I went for a shower and he's actually self settled to sleep. Totally unheard of.
I have celebrated with a banana and a cuppa in peace after hanging up some washing 🙂

3% battery in the middle of the night? Did you think you were having a nightmare random?

My friend just shared this on Facebook - felt appropriate to share!

Happy Wednesday everyone - we've got Christmas jumper day at baby massage later on 🎄

Still laughing at Dh. Poor bloke. He does look ridiculous though. Cheered me right up.

mzzf I had severe spd during my first pregnancy. I was repeatedly told (by midwives and physios) there was nothing to be done and I would have to suck it up. I was in a wheelchair and off my work. Even after dd1 was born I couldn't pick her up from the Moses basket til she was 10/12 weeks old after weeks of physio. This time I made a lot of noise and I had physio every week from 8 weeks up to 32. I alternated between nhs and private. I got work to pay for private on the grounds that a fortnightly session was a hell of a lot cheaper than a replacement for me! I would have paid it myself though. No question. It made an enormous difference to me. Incomparable pregnancies. I also think my immobility in my first pregnancy contributed to my baby being breech and thence to emcs. There is such a dearth of knowledge about the condition. It's so dreadful.

Feeling a touch better today. Thanks be! This has really floored me. Hellish business.

Thanks for the positive responses re preggo Physio I think it's a massively under the radar area that needs more love!!
I'm thinking home visits, pre/post labour care, help recovering from csections/ medicalised births, help with diastasis/SPD/PGP.... Going through it myself has opened my eyes to the care that needs to be available!! Hmmmm might have to get my thinking brain on!

Well done on the cot napping!! Mini mzzzf just had her 3rd jabs, paracetamol and milk and is now conked out on my arm - all 14lbs of her!

Joksar- that pic of your Dh made me laugh! Hope you told him it was perfect!

Mzzf- I think what everyone has said is right and it will definitely be hard no matter the age of your DD.

Sorry so many had naff nights! Random I also had no battery and we were at hospital till 1am!! DS woke up from a nap about 4pm yesterday and he had started wheezing- sounded like a little cat purring and as he still hadnt eaten much I rang 111 for advice. They said to get him seen within 2 hours- no gp appointments and I could only ring for out of hours at 8pm when our surgery shuts! So off the the walk in centre who suspected bronchiolitis and sent us to children's a and e at the hospital. Despite having a letter from the walk in we had to wait 3 sodding hours- they missed us by mistake it transpires! Grrrrrr! Anyway they put him on a nebuliser and sent him home with saline drops and an inhaler to use for the next 4 days. Poor poppet! I should have waited for the out of hours gp to open it would have been bloody quicker! Thankfully DS was still on top form charming all the staff and others in the waiting area and didn't get to cranky. He also went to sleep at 0130 and only got up at 9 with just a couple of murmurs for his dummy, bless him he must have been shattered! Still not eating but hopefully that will pick up as the inhaler starts working.

I can handle baby vom as I don't think it's too bad it's adult vom I can't stomach! There was a kid vomming in a bowl last night and I had to concentrate so hard not to vom myself!

Can't remember what else has been said!

mzzf you would make your fortune I reckon! I know so many people who have struggled with it. I think even without spd physio for most pregnant women would be useful. Is this going to be your physio empire?! Ante and post natal physio across the land!

As for leaving the bairn at nursery you're almost certainly going to cry whenever you do it. I wept. So silly. Dd1 adores it and always has done. It was absolutely the best place to put her for both of us. But pretty much everyone cries, I think.

Kinda of joskar. I just think as an idea it has legs and would ultimately fit in with family life too!
I keep feeling like it's too soon for mini mzzzf to go to nursery and when I have anxious feelings like that I always try to bore down to what it is and there are two things. 1 - I'm not mega excited about the job, yes money is good etc but it doesn't help with the career path I want long term and 2 - whilst still daunting I'd feel happier with her at nursery when she can sit and crawl. Her being more independent would make it easier for me to leave her I think as she wouldn't just be a bundle of neediness she could entertain herself. That's probably a load of mumbo jumbo but that's kinda how I'm feeling. I need a few more months I think...
I'm still going to view the nursery but I feel like I should be developing what I want to do long term rather than 'making do'. Oooh I sound like a div, don't I?!

She will deffo go to nursery just not right now....I think...gaaaah!!

mzzzf do what works for you
When my DS1 started pre-school I went to my mums and broke down in tears. He was only gone for 3 hours a day
Also due to my circumstances I can put DD into nursery from January. I've refused as she will only be 2 and I want her with me. Even when I find a job they will be with my mum I'm so soft! I hate leaving them anywhere but my mum is awesome.

Afternoon all,

frolic I am taking the same approach as you today with a focus on sorting out some decent daytime sleep for Grumpy 2. The trip to London and a busy day yesterday meant that she hasn't slept enough during the day so far this week and it really takes its toll on her. She too is currently sleeping a la cot which is pretty awesome, although I have had to go in and re-settle her a couple of times due to ongoing snot issues (which had gone away but a single day in London has brought them all back thanks to the human soup of the capital!)

mzzzf I was fortunate enough not to need physio during my pregnancies but I did have a prolapsed disc a few years ago that needed treating. I gave up on the 6-month wait for an NHS physio and paid someone privately to sort it out in the end. I think you could have a great business idea there. With regards to the going back to work/childcare thing, you'll get loads of (entirely correct!) support for popping mini-mzzzf into nursery and taking up the 3-days per week in January so just to balance it out I will say that it doesn't really matter if you go the other way either. I was supposed to go back to work when grumpy 1 was 6-months but I just couldn't do it in the end. It wasn't right for her and it wasn't right for me (even though I wasn't totally loving mat leave either). Fortunately I had a very understanding boss who was happy to let me extend without making a big deal of it and DH supported me too, even though he lost out on 3 months of his pat leave as a result. I also changed my mind from nursery to childminder in that time. When I did finally go back at 9 months I was really ready and didn't feel guilty and when grumpy 1 went to her childminder I was really comfortable with that setting for her. So, not sure that helps you at all but just wanted to put forward a positive story from the other side of the coin.

lily what a horrible evening. Glad DS is okay, hope the inhaler starts to kick in soon. We have had an inhaler for grumpy 1 since she was about this age and it is great when she gets a cold and it goes to her chest.

fatty how are you feeling?

nolonger Yesterday was Babushka, but I still have no idea how it ends! Grumpy 2 decided to do a massive poo and get really grumpy after only 10 minutes and so (mainly due to the dagger stares from the other parents as presumably we were ruining the audio on their crappy i-pad videos of the production) we had to leave . Fortunately the lady from the school office who does the tickets took pity on me and said if I come back today she'll let me in at the back so fingers crossed I get to find out how it ends!

Sorry that I don't have time to respond to everyone individually. Hope you are all okay and WHOOP WHOOP to those who had good sleep last night (you bastards...)

Hi all,

Such a shit shit night. I'm so sleep deprived that my eyes hurt and are red and puffy and I can't see well enough to get into Mugabe Nights! I feel like such a crap mom that my baby won't sleep, it's been about 6 weeks of this and I can't take it. I'm so bloody wrecked. Ffs.

Sorry for another self indulgent post. DH texted today to say HE'S exhausted and now I think I have to divorce him

I'm OK thanks, although I have panicked my poor mum! She thought it might be morning sickness so I had to reassure her I'm on the pill, using condoms and due AF at the end of this week.

Had a busy few days attending Xmas things at school🎄. DD3 had promised the Head it would be no problem to use her baby sister as Baby Jesus in the nativity rather than the Baby Annabel doll - NO! - she was most disappointed!! Toddler and baby behaved nicely and I had a little tear in my eye when all the little ones sang Away in a Manger - feeling very Christmassy now[santa]

Baby been awful at night for past week - wakes every hour from about 1am onwards - currently sound asleep on my knee with toddler snoring on my shoulder - dying for a wee but don't want to wake them. School run time shortly - blowing a gale outside - how I wished school was next door and they could walk home themselves!! Very happy for jealous of those getting lots of sleep.

DH does little enough to help but with the continued Forth Bridge closure he is leaving extra early to work and home late - means I gave to take all DC out to activities at night - starting to feel stressed and tired - can't wait for Xmas hols🎄

joskar lol at DHs head😂😂 - a new Xmas hat definately required.

When I had DD1 I went back to work when she was just 3 months old - she went to a small family run nursery who I felt loved her and really looked after her. - it still didn't stop me crying everyday thou but it was easier knowing she was well cared for. It's so tough for mums - why don't men suffer the same guilt and emotions - my DH trots off to work without a second thought.......

Mzzzf I think that's an awesome idea. I had really bad rib pain and backache and would have loved someone to show me how to stretch it away as well as guidance on exercise that was safe. God the mind is a weird thing. I had wiped that rib pain from my memory. Wonder what else I am forgetting about pregnancy too. If you ever hear me say 'actually the induction followed by Emcs wasn't so bad' someone please slap me.

Ah grok of course your not a crap mum. Babies are just so bloody stubborn. I say this lying on my bed, with DS sleeping on my arm after yet another failed attempt at project nap. Should have just not tried then at least would be watching tv on sofa.

The third set of jabs suck. They've knocked her harder than the others! Project nap has also gone to shit 💩 this week as she just so clingy atm and was going off her milk. So for now I'd rather she sleep and drink any which way she can, next week is always a new start!

I really thought I'd have a baby that would cot nap and stay in her cot to sleep all night long - Mother Nature must be bloody pissing herself at my naivety! She's one of the oldest on the thread but still can't self settle, sleep all night or nap on her own in the cot. If it wasn't for you guys I'd seriously be thinking it was my fault, but because of you guys I'm only minimally thinking it!! 😁

Ahh babushka is a sad story for Christmas, hope you get to see the end of it!
Loves - away in a manger would get me too! Looking forward to that stage!

Hope everyone/baby is feeling better today x

Waaaahhhh! Babushka is really sad! Slightly less traumatic once you have actually seen the end but even so

Hello! Hope i can join this thread wee man was born 2nd September (due aug 25th) but the september thread is a bit dead....hes just turned 3 months, ebf, still wakes hourly so why oh why am i broody for number two??! we've just got over colic! it may be that my friend is 20 weeks pregnant i keep getting scan/bump pics and miss the excitement/kicks..just not the heartburn/spd :D

Of course you're welcome.
DS2 was born august 1st. (I was due July but he was 10 days late the lazy bugger)
I also have DD who will be 2 on the 18th and DS1 who is 7.

mzzzf DS2 rarely self settles, never cot naps, and certainly doesn't sleep. And he's older than your DD