August 2015. It's all about food consumption and late nights at Bar Mugabe Nights

[Dozygirl]

New thread for us fast talkers

Morning all, it's blowing a gale out today so have decided to stay put at home with the last episode of Downton Abbey and cake.

Grumpy 2 woke again at 4:45am and 6:30am (at which point we all have to be up for the day anyway) so everyone is quite sleepy in the dwarf house this morning.

DH and I had a really rocky patch after grumpy 1 was born and most of my Mum friends at the time reported the same thing. The new version of 'normal' life doesn't really kick in until several weeks after the birth and that seems to be when a lot of couples go through a stormy period of readjustment, working out what everyone is supposed to be doing now that everything has changed. dozy I remember thinking the exact same thing about single parenting! It got much better though and second time around we are used to working as a team so it hasn't been nearly as bumpy. Just remember, you loved each other enough to want a family together - hold on to that thought and try to find times to communicate when you aren't both knackered and it'll get easier. I found it really helpful to know how common it was to feel like that.

Today's only goal (bar the usual washing of nappies) is to get grumpy 2 to sleep in her pram for long enough for me to send some thank you emails for late arriving gifts. What do you think my odds are? (Clue: she is currently sparko a la boob...)

dozy x-post! I ordered the medium too, I'm hoping it doesn't come up too large on her. She's a bit of a chunkster and already in 3-6 month clothes so I hope it'll be fine. It's to replace a pram suit she's not quite out of yet so there is no massive urgency if it is a bit big (other than that I want her in it because it looks cute!!) Good luck with today's imms x

I haven't gone as DS seemed ok after taking DD to preschool. Been ok all morning but his temp is slightly up again. Will monitor and if it goes about 38 will call them again.

Has anyone bought nursing bras from verbaudet? After talk of underwired ones I had a look as they sent me a discount code. Can get three delivered for £28, with a free Minnie Mouse bag!

Mugabe Augums, I was at the bar last might bur mn ate my post and I was too tired to rewrite it.

Dozy,I totally agree with you on DH behaviour. I don't think they can understand just how relentless caring for a small child is. Once DS is in a better evening routine we are thinking of signing up to an evening class together and getting a regular babysitter we can do something completely unrelated to babies or children and just enjoy each other's company again. We'll even go to the pub after!

Hi Random,my DS is just 4 days older than yours and we had jabs last week but he was really unsettled after. In fact we seem to have reverted to the evening cluster feeding again which is weird.

Re. weight, I will make a concerted effort with diet in the new year and just try and up my walking/fitness between now and then as too many yummy Christmas treats to resist at the moment.

Rra,I want to get some underwired nursing bras too so might have a look at Verbaudet. That price sounds like a bargain for 3.

Right, am off to buy a sandwich. Have been sitting in the car while DS sleeps between baby sensory and baby group. Isn't motherhood glamorous

Love that sounds like a nightmare- I think I'd have been tempted to go back to bed with baby and try and start the day again later!

Rra- sorry DS is still it right defo get him checked again if it will mean you worry less. The white kit Kat sounds amazing! I'm trying not to drool at the thought!

Fatty/ that's interesting about the eye colours- DS had blue when born but started to go darker (he is the absolute image of DH so not surprising although it would have been nice for him to keep my blue eyes) at the moment they are a hazely-greens-blue and seem to change everytime I look at him so it will be interesting to see what they settle as.

Hello random.

I hear you all on DHs- mine goes through fits and starts of wanting the house immaculate- but ridiculously clean so you can't even live in it and cleaning obsessively to leaving everything to pile up and putting things away in the completely wrong place! He decided to move 2 pairs of my boots out the hall yesterday and put them up the side of my bed so that when I was sneaking in the dark trying not to wake DS I nearly broke my sodding neck! He also NEVER puts my clothes away in the wardrobe!! My pet hate! I do washing and drying and hang everything up- his included, the ocasionally time he does washing and drying he either leaves it in the dryer for days or piles it up and leaves it on the bed so it inevitably ends up on the floor and then the next time he has a cleaning frenzy he puts it all in the pigging wash basket again!!!! sorry got a bit carried away there!

It's dry here today which is a nice change so I'm going to venture out to lidl for some bits shortly and resist all the goodies. After my bacon and sausage start I ate really well yesterday and am winning today too. Didn't manage a run yesterday as we spent 1.5 hours trying to find my headphones and couldn't, they must have been lost in the move gutted as I've never actually used them-DH got me them last year for my birthday, they're proper running ones that clip round your ears but then 2 weeks later I got my bfp and was initially too scared to run incase I did any damage and then by 6 weeks was too sick!! Been to my exercise class this morning though which was good- need to get a shower yet but DS has been refusing to sleep and being a bit whingey! Her has finally dropped off so I'm going to unload the dishwasher, pack with all the stuff I've left hanging around on the side and run and get showered- will catch up on the rest later!

Random- DS hasn't quite swiped a plate or anything but has clicked on things on my phone several times! I was reading an article before about children's savings accounts and next minute he's clicked through to a Halifax one- not sure it's the best rate for him but I like that he's showing an interest!

Nolonger- I like the idea of the regular evening class sounds like a great idea. Wouldn't work for us unfortunately though as DH works shifts as will I when I go back albeit it only for half the week so we wouldn't be able to commit to the same night each week. I may well suggest we choose an evening each upcoming week though and us go for tea at the pub or something and get a sitter- definately a way to be able to discuss anything that needs talking out without being disturbed by DS and leaving it unfinished.

I've had a good day today as I've been nice and busy all day- it's the first time I've sat down for a brew all day which is good as DH won't be home till 9pm and that would have been a long day sat in with DS! DS has graciously fell asleep so I can have a brew after he screamed as soon as I put shampoo on my head earlier! Quickest shower ever and the back of my hair is still wet! Oh well at least I'm clean! Avoided the goodies in lidl- very proud of myself and bought corn cobs and salad to have with chicken for tea go me!

Mugabe!!
A very quiet and boring day chez frolic today. It's pissing it down and grey. Yuk.
Ds has finally stopped with the crazy feeding but has been sick a few times today. He seems jolly enough, so I don't think he's poorly.
I've started back on the cloth nappies now that the war on shit seems to be over. It's going great so far. I feel quite smug every time I change him

slow, I'm also bad for Internet shopping while ds feeds! I'm a sucker for buying loads off e-bay. Most stuff is dirt cheap, but it all adds up. In the past 24 hours I have purchased Some more lovely leggings, tights, bibs and hand rattles for ds!! I'm feeling so fat and gross at the moment that I can't be bothered buying clothes for myself, but ds is very well dressed! I really need to stop spending.

Welcome random! Many congratulations on your dd . I hope you feel better soon.

I am always worrying about our neighbours hearing ds grok! i can never work out how much they might be able to hear as we hear everything from one side and nothing from the other .

Oh god loves! That really does sound like the day from hell. I hope today is being kinder to you.

Glad ds is on the mend rrra. I don't usually like kit Kats (apart from the peanut butter one), but white chocolate sounds very interesting indeed.

A night out for just the two of you sounds like a fab idea dozy.
Rain totally makes everything so much harder.

Well done for avoiding the goodies in lidl lily! I had one of the bakery pizzas for lunch, but managed not to pick up any buenos. It nearly killed me

On the subject of food, I've not done too badly today or yesterday. No cakes, chocolates or treats, which is a good start! I've made veggie chilli and jacket potatoes for dinner. Super healthy, until I drown them in cheese!

Oh so reassuring to read am not the only one who feels relationship is hitting a big rough past. Dozy I do understand exactly what you mean about feeling like doing it alone at times. However whoever it said to focus on the fact that it wasn't that long again we loved each other enough to start a family together is right. I'll focus on that. Hope your anniversary night out goes well and you get to have a good chat. The idea of doing an evening class together is such a good idea. I Might look into doing that when we are more settled with ds. I know it sounds v sad but we actually really enjoyed doing ante natal classes together.

DS and I went yoga today. Was v lovely. However nightmare afterwards. Went to Aldi to buy stollen cake and they had none. Arrgggg. I was very good and didn't get anything else though. My body is a temple after yoga*

Project nap is not working at all here. DS point blank refused to sleep any but on me apart from a tiny nap in the pram but only when it was moving. Slow I am in the same boat with the sleep. DS was doing 5 or 6 hours straight but has gone back to blocks of 3. I know that could be so much worse but God dam it I have tasted 6 hours and I want it back. However big congrats to others on some good sleep!!

*my body is not a temple. DS had mad screaming fit in pram and the queue was massive so tearfully put snacks back and bought giant snickers from corner shop.

Evening all

dozy and all those finding relationships a bit up and down, so did I after dd1 was born. She was a tricky baby with reflux and colic, a lot of crying. I found the adjustment from full time work to feeling like a prisoner with a screaming baby hard. In the end dh and I split up but we found we became good friends again as time went on and a year after we started living apart we chose to ttc and ended up back together. This time round the relationship is MUCH better - we both know what to expect - exhaustion, messy house, little romance.

Sorry didn't mean for my last post to sound depressing, just agreeing that babies and children put a lot of strain on relationships

Saw this story today which seems particularly relevant to all the bitching about husbands and partners: www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/nov/09/men-only-pull-their-weight-at-home-in-a-world-where-thinking-doesnt-matter?CMP=fb_gu

Why don't they ever just notice that the hoovering needs done and do it without being asked?!

I feel like my relationship is at breaking point at the minute
And we are in our third so you would think we would be used to this!

I'm just so stressed with everything. DS1 just completely ignores me most of the time, DD is going through a whingey stage so her screaming sets DS2 off and I spend the entire day with two screaming babies, a seven year old who won't do his homework and won't wipe up his own piss when he gets it all over the loo seat even though I've told him a million times and then DP calls me the bad guy when I eventually stress!

He's not here, he doesn't see what it's like every. Single. Exhausting. Day.

Ola augmums!

I miss my mummy already! 'Twas wonderful having her here, if only for a few days. She also seemed to really bond with DD too.

I hear you on the DH front. I'm pretty blunt naturally (you 'may' have noticed !) so when it comes into my head I have to discuss it at some point. I can't remember who said it earlier but I do the same re text messages. Means I can really articulate what I mean and take the time to digest responses.

Mini mzzf is having a nightmare with snot. I really thought she'd have shaken this by now but I think the 2nd jabs knocked her recovery back a bit Gone are the 8.30pm bedtimes with DH and I getting some evening back. She's very tetchy at the moment and I think could have teething symptoms too, so she's been given a dose of calpol and some bonjela!

We are on for the wedding this weekend btw!!!

So, grumpy 2 is going for some kind of Olympic no-sleep record at present as she has also decided that daytime napping is for wimps. 35 minutes was all we managed today unless you count endless blocks of 5 mins on the boob before she flung her arms wide and the eyes popped open. The poor little dwarf was a gibbering wreck by the time DH got home, puffy red eyes, pot belly from all the extra feeds and big blue bags under her eyes. I suspect this is something to do with her developing eye sight, she can clearly see more now as she can grab hold of stuff on her play gym. I think the world is just so exciting that she can't sleep despite really needing to. Anyway DH (who is a ninja master at getting babies to sleep, seriously the man sings in such a horrendous monotone it makes the cat pass out in a coma) sorted her out and she is literally passed out in her cot now. I reckon we are on for a midnight first feed though as a result .

Not much to repeat therefore from the dwarf house as today has simply been an endless round of boob, attempt to sleep, fail to sleep, play for a bit, nappy and repeat. I am working my way through a 390g bar of galaxy this evening though, because I am worth it.

My star snug has been dispatched. Yay! Can't wait.

frolic Good news about the end of the war on shit and the start of cloth nappying (which in itself is a reason to check out the frugi sale...) grumpy 2 only really vomits after a mega feed marathon. It's almost as if she has no stop reflex and so overfills until it comes spewing back out. She's always jolly with it.

giraffes I didn't take your post to be depressing at all, if anything it is lovely that you and your DH worked it all out and are back together with a new LO. Congratulations to you both for getting through the tough times and thanks for sharing a positive story.

dozy hope you are feeling better today about everything

lily what a pain about your headphones, but don't despair. We are still finding things we thought 'lost' some two and a half years after our move. Buy a new pair, that will guarantee that you find them!

love what a stinker of a start to the day. Hope it got better from then on!

Has anyone tried the Beco Gemini baby carrier? I like the ergo but want one that will do outward facing and a few people have mentioned the Beco. It's a £100 though and our sling library don't have one to practice with so I am a bit wary of buying it in case it's a crushing disappointment.

Oh, and hallo! random congratulations on your new baby

Looking forward to seeing some of you propping up the bar at Mugabe Nights laters!

Evening. Sorry I struggle to remember who has said what but I am really sorry so many are having problems with the dads. My dh informed me today that fallout 4 was released so that's how he'll be spending his evenings for the forseeable. I just go to bed anyway so not that bothered but doesn't help us feel bonded if we spend no down time together This will pass when I don't have a baby bedtime but it's tough in the meantime.

I had a better day food wise. Even managed to do a lidl shop and avoid the treats. I have bought instant low cal hot chocolate and hope that will tide me over when I need something sweet.

My baby has a cheesy ear. I was feeding him after his bath tonight and the smell of cheese was really strong. I have cleaned it and the smell has mostly gone. I guess it is just milk or sick but it is gross. Must pay extra attention to the ear creases when he's in the bath.

3 underwired bras for 28 pounds you say. Sounds very tempting. I hope they have them in my size.

Right baby has been asleep for an hour so better go and get my good chunk of sleep in. See you in the bar later

Slow, I just bought a beco Gemini for the same reasons! I'm using a close Caboo at the moment, and I have a connecta too. Tried that one today but DS is still a bit small for it. Not tried the Gemini get. I bought mine second hand for £50 posted. Would you consider looking at second hand? I figure I should be able to sell on for a similar amount if I don't like it.

Peachy, realised after I posted the bras don't go big enough for me. The one I was wearing was a 36FF and The largest they had was F. Now planing to buy some clips and hack the bras I wore in pregnancy if they still fit.

Well, I've gone and cocked things up. Literally just tried to give calpol to increase chances of a good night as DS still has a bit of a temp. He was fast asleep so thought I'd sneak it in a tiny bit at a time. All was good until the last tiny bit, when he vomited up his last feed with the calpol!! He now smells like sick and will probably wake hungry even sooner than if I'd just left him. Gah! Am hoping his temp doesn't go up too.

Well, tonight I got tickets for my works Xmas party. One month today (on a Thursday!!?). So now I really need to kick the treats into touch, as I'd like to wear something I already have and look halfway nice. I have also just started the 30 day squat and 30 day crunch challenges in a bid to trim myself! I have exactly 30 days!

Good evening!

Sorry so many of you are having hard times relationship wise. These babies really do change things in every way. I'm very lucky that dh is generally brilliant. But tonight I have the rage with him for being a soak wanker and so will join you in raising a glass to girl power at Mugabe nights. I'll have a vodka and slimline tonic because I really should be good!

Talking of being good, I saw them talking on Matthew Wright this morning about costa's Christmas drinks. One of them (the nicest sounding) had 24 spoons of sugar in it!! 24!! I wander how long I can resist now I know that? probably until tomorrow afternoon

We have an overtired little chap who has refused to nap this afternoon once again. He's been doing an impression of a grumpy cross trainer since about 7pm - arms and legs flailing like a crazy. I can't face trying to settle him for the evening yet so he can sit in his chair and watch catastrophe with us.

Get well soon mini mzzf.

Ds sounds just like grumpy2 slow. Big feed, big vom, big smiles! I somethings think his stomach takes a few days to catch up after a cluster feed / supply increase.

Sending sleepy vibes to all.

peers around mugabe nights

I hope the lack of posts mean you're all asleep! Just having a smirnoff ice.

I'm here magrat! Only briefly though. Grumpy 2 went from 7:30pm to 2:45am in the end - sooo much better than the last few nights . Just having a sneaky half of Aspalls before heading back to bed.

Enjoy your night!

I'm here too! Having a sneaky drink while dd does the same. I could really go for some pancakes right about now...

I've been here since 1.30. First DS then DD waking. God only knows what is wrong with DD tonight, maybe bad dream but she.will.not.go.back.to.sleep.

Yes please to pancakes and Aspall.

Hi all,

sneaks in and heads straight for the bar

Woken (both of us) by bottom explosion again. This time poo up back, wet sleeping bag job. Insert swear words as need to break the habit lest her first words will not be shared willingly with her grandparents and first sentence turns out to be effing nappy!

Still on close caboo and back up stretchy wrap sling - was totally bereft when caboo was in wash and library sling goes back on Friday. DH likes the dreaded baby bjorn original from SIL but it murders my neck as she prefers to lean away from me. Probably looking at Manduca or Ergo next plus a hiking rucksack (Deuter) for DH. Have a feeling that forward facing will need to be an option as she's super nosy already - always looking sideways if awake.

Off to HVs measuring clinic for 1st time in ages tomorrow - curious to find out what the long skinny thing weighs and measures.

Any ideas how to reprogramme bottoms? Can't be doing with these 3.30 nappies - DH has an early meeting and has to provide breakfast so really not what I needed. B all point him doing night wake ups as she always wants feeding after the nappy anyway but wouldn't if not awake anyway - kind of like us and peeing I think - as I'm awake I need to go rather than waking up especially.

Sorry others are having problems with Dads - they just don't get it! DH is normally pretty considerate but has no clue how full on it is being with her all day.

Hope the snot abates soon mzzf. Can empathise a little as am suffering myself although DD seems to be pass colds on without suffering, unlike her parents!

Magic slumber bug heartbeat and blue stars working well so might just stagger home if I can ignore my own snotty nose long enough to get to sleep

And I'm Back! Ugh. Pancakes please.

I'm joining the pancake crew, I'll have some sticky sickly shots with them, anyone remember teichenne (sp?) butterscotch shots?

random I have an ergo 360, I liked it when baby was smaller but now at 3 months she seems a bit big with the insert but a bit small to go without, so I'm hoping she'll fit better in a month or so. We have the Little Life hiking rucksack and love it! We used it for dd1 until she was 3, also we used it on hiking holidays in Austria etc. she was very comfortable in it and it was very comfortable to carry.

I'm holding baby as I forgot to bring her gro bags (I'm away from home) and she keeps waking up with her blanket off...she's got a cold and I think she may be cold tbh.

Right, back to feeding, nappies pancakes

Still here but not due to DD - frustratingly can't get back to sleep with my own cold. Very happy with stretchy type slings for now so just thinking ahead with the next stage. Haven't actually used pram/ travel system yet! Doubt I will other than at smear test which I need to arrange as town is full of steep hills and steps!

Mines fortunately not too cold in lightweight grobag as it's what was to hand after poonami incident earlier. Did chuck some bottoms on her but she's quite a warm creature so doesn't need masses of warm. Blankets are a total nightmare - never stay put and she's such a burrowing thing in her sleep that I only dare put the up to her waist in feet to foot as she consistently wriggles to bum to foot!

No pancakes for me - egg issues strike again. Must make flapjacks! At least it helps the weight loss mission