August 2015. It's all about food consumption and late nights at Bar Mugabe Nights

[Dozygirl]

New thread for us fast talkers

Just popped on to say the Rainforest Jumperoo is on a lightening deal on Amazon at the moment for £55. There are also gro eggs and gro clocks in one too.

Worst night ever here and can't even lie on as DH working and I have both kids today.

Sloe just seen the star costume. Wow! Looks amaze and your DD is gorge. Babushka is so sad though

Loves sounds like we had very similar night with poo and toddlers and generally no sleep.

Mzzf glad veggie tasting was a success. Cauli always gave my DD terrible wind as a baby so I'd avoid anyway!

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giraffe my house is full of 'plastic tat' - had DD1 13 years ago but had babies ever since so never thrown any of it out as always someone to play with it - it just builds and builds -DH has a moan every time he opens the playroom door......

Sorry for the typo Slow but guess I've got gin on the brain

The jumperoo is waiting in my dining room until Christmas but I may crack and break it out beforehand!!

Just eaten Nutella from the jar with a spoon - life is good!

Slow that costume is amazing. Grumpy 1 is adorable.

Awww grok your dd is gorgeous. Welcome back, glad the sleep regression hasn't lasted forever. P.s. just be careful with wearing thick coats and snowsuit in car sets. The straps have to be mega loose in order to fit over the suits so therefore are no longer affective. There are articles about it on Internet if u want to research it. Not everyone is aware of the danger so just wanted to put that out there.

Nutella from a jar mzzf. It's the only way to do it really. Or have a spoon of Nutella combined with an spoon of peanut butter makes it even better.

I've been a greedy guts yet again this weekend and have lots of eating arrangements planned for this week so think the diet will be going out the window. Xmas is hard a time of year to diet anyway.

A lot of u were up last night it would seem. Lots of treats for u all today to make up for it. Dd woke up about 3 and I was about to get up and get her when she went back to sleep till 6"30 so perhaps she wasn't really awake. Shes been a good girl for me this morning and fed really well. A little bit fussy when she got sick of the nipple shield but took that away and then fed some more. Let's see what today brings.

Oh and Happy St Andrews day to our Scottish contingent!

This is mini mzzzf getting busted as she tried to escape the bumbo!

I will catch up but I needed to share something. A historic event in our house. 9:30am marked the official start (ahem well I've started this on numerous occasions but this time I'm doing it for real) of project nap not on mum...

30mins in and ive just gone to check on her....

Oh god DS is sleeping like a new born again. We partied hard a magubes last night! Grok the Ray of hope message was needed more than ever. This too shall pass DS.

Thank you all for the pram advice. We are going to try the seat this week. Must admit I love the carrycot too and DS really likes but he is one strand of hair away from being too long! Fanby lovely pic of Dd in the pushchair. Where is her snowsuit from?

Gorgeous baby and star pics this morning.

Frolic keep me posted about bedtime. Sounds like our babies have similar sleep patterns so good to know how how you get on. my attempts got us nowhere.

Sleep deprived brain can't remember anything else but let's hope today brings some naps. There has to be a pay off for the terrible nights right?

Ahhh it's birthday club in your house isn't it mzzzf!! So glad the veggies went down well! So exciting that she's on REAL food!!

Loveandsmiles - wow!! That must have been epic pooage!!! Love that toddler slept through! Hope the temp has gone down now though

Dozy - excellent news on the bf, hope it was just a blip and it continues to improve

Kbro - it's a sainsburys number, think mum picked it up when I was still pregnant. Sorry to hear about shit sleep, hope you get some nappage in today xx

Oh and I hate Nutella bleurggggh

Morning all!

kbro, Ds has been showing signs of being tired around 8pm for about a week, so I thought I'd try to start putting him down upstairs as he's been down with us until bedtime up to now.
Last night wasn't a massive success, but not a total disaster either. He was asleep at 8pm for 1/2 hour. Then fed and slept on and off until he went down for the last time at 10pm. He then slept till 3, had a quick feed and slept till 9am.
He's always fed lots in the evenings, and I've no idea how to change that. I'm torn between thinking that just being upstairs is a good start and feeling like we may as well stay down if he is just going to nap and feed. I'm going to try offering him the boob more often in the day to see if that helps. But if it doesn't fall into place in a few days I'll just go back to taking him up whenever. I don't feel like pushing things too hard because he sleeps so well once he is down.
And we will probably hit the 4 month regression soon anyway.

lily, yes it's a video monitor. I find it really scary - I keep expecting to see a baddy or a ghost os something. No idea why as I'm quite sane and don't think there are any ghosts or baddies in our house .
We have this in our room as Ds didn't really get on with the Moses basket.
www.kiddicare.com/p/Kiddicare_Dream_Crib_Natural.htm
He's got plenty of room in it still so hopefully it will last until he moves into his own room as we don't have much space for a cot bed in here.
I don't bother with burps for night feeds.

What a cutie grock. And a big yippee to lights at the end of the tunnel.

Cutest star ever there slow!

Well done on your quickymzzf! And well done on the veggie eating mini mzzf. She looks totally cute and totally busted in that photo.

The amount of poo from such a little thing is astounding loves.

Molly looks very comfy in there fanby. I think you are going to have a good day on the project.
What do you mean you don't like Nutella? that's not possible!

Sorry if i've missed anything - you've been a chatty bunch as usual!
Happy Monday everyone- here's to a good week ahead.

Hey there!

Random mid-morning posting here as Grumpy 2 is having a mammoth and unexpected nap. She fell asleep on the school run at 08:30am and is still snoozing now. Weird.

Thanks for all the love, I am very biased but do think that Grumpy 1 is a bit of a cutie.

Thanks mzzzf for the Bumbo thoughts, mega helpful, and also the comments on the carrycot -v- seat issue (we are in the same boat as kbro, it's getting increasingly hard to squeeze Grumpy 2 into her carrycot, which is a shame as she does love a good snooze in it).

Weather here is crazy today, wet and wild. Hope you are all tucked up in the warm. Sleep has been better here the last two nights, although we do seem to have permanently (for now, at least) reinstated the 2am feed when she had been going from 8pm to 4am pre-the nightmare last week or so. Never mind, at least she settles quickly again now unlike the early days. We also have fixed get up and bedtime and just freestyle the rest. It seems to work well for both girls to have those as fixed points in the day (and gives me something to hang out for when its been one of those days!)

nolonger I might make that my new handle, I love sloe gin too . Are you going to Leeds -v- North Queensland? I have just booked our tickets to watch Saints get thrashed by the Roosters

Dozy I am off to try the homemade Hershey's on a spoon. Great idea!

Right off to go and do productive things while the baby sleeps (read: use the toilet in peace)

Dozy, thanks for the heads up. A friend of mine told me the same thing so we've moved to using the footmuff to keep DD warm in the car and snowsuit is just for walks out in the carrier!

Hi all. I have read back but my tired brain can't remember much!
Nathan had broccoli over the weekend. He's having carrot tonight. He's taken to it really well and loves the high chair. He loves sitting up. And he loves food.
I'm knackered and unwell. But Nathan slept all morning so probably won't sleep tonight.

This might be of interest to those using cloth nappies or non bio washing powder www.theguardian.com/science/sifting-the-evidence/2015/nov/30/nappy-science-gang-versus-the-nhs

Totally change your name to sloe slow. I have 2 litres of sloe gin brewing. In fact, the last alcoholic drink I had was a shot of last years when I was bottling it on 7/12. I can't quite believe I've gone a year without a drop

Frolic that article is really interesting! I asked why at a couple of antenatal classes because growing up in Canada I'd never heard of the non bio thing before, and one instructor actually did say that there was no reason at all to avoid bio. As DP and I both have eczema, and as mine is triggered by some detergents, we'd already found a laundry detergent with minimal perfume that suits us and just use the same detergent on all the baby stuff.

I assumed the non bio was to avoid any cellulase destroying the bamboo for nappy washes. No skin issues here as a newby cloth user. Cloth is going ok - one explosion but entirely user error - no poo for 36 hours, couldn't get the legs tight enough but couldn't be bothered to try a different nappy, heard pooing sounds and thought I'd wait for her to finish. Funnily enough it came out the leg holes... idiot of the day award to me! Nappy is relegated to the wrong shape selection at the bottom of the box once washed to join a couple of others that don't suit Fs scrawny legs.

Today has been a good nap day, yesterday was minimal and Saturday was rubbish - these things seem to run in cycles. Still sleeping at night until 6 so relieved about that but she's getting super grouchy during the day and naps have been on baby gym and in sling rather than in basket.

Hello all! I did have a post written out, but it got lost and then my day ran away with me. J slept from about 8.30 until about 6 last night - DH is currently trying to give him a bottle, but hoping he will settle down again.

J loves the carrycot, he's recently started napping in it, so I will be gutted when he grows out of it.

Interesting article about washing powder - I've always used non-bio on me as I have sensitive skin and have reacted before when using bio.

Saw both sets of grandparents at the weekend. My parents were fab, supportive and desperate to help with J at every opportunity. My ILs? FIL just wants a quick cuddle only when J is content and MIL either criticises outright or just says things in a negative tone of voice. All directed at me because clearly DH has no involvement in raising his son. Grr, why do we live closer to them? Although also saw SIL and J's cousins, who think he's fab and wanted to show him their rooms and give him cuddles.

Anyway, attempting not to fall asleep on the sofa before DH finishes settling J so we can spend some time together...

What a back and forth evening already! She went down relatively well, but I'm on my second visit upstairs now for some uber 'go to sleep' rocking!!
And there's a fresh hot coffee waiting for me downstairs!!! Argh!

Hope those higher up in Scotland are enjoying the snow. Joskar are you getting it big on the isles?! Or are you back now?
Unfortunately Glasgow is just wet at the mo but looks good for a white Christmas at the moment!!!

Crap nap action today from DD. also her appetite seems to have dropped off again...related maybe?! But she slept in her pram whilst dog walking, God prams are hard work!!! My all terrain one is no match for wellies and a sling!!

Well done on the rest of the babies for super not on mum napping!! I'm jealous! I've faith it'll all come
Good eventually. When I think back to the early days and how she didn't lay down at night I keep reminding myself that I'm thankful she does now. Crikey I looked back at some early days photos and she was TINY!! Unbelievable the difference but I feel more secure with her being a bit more robust. I do not miss the teeny delicate newborn stage at all!

Evening all, just a quick dash past Mugabe's for me as Grumpy 2 has been down for over two hours now and so I am a fool for not being asleep myself.

Survived a biblical downpour during the school run this afternoon! Grumpy 2 has had an epic sleep day too. 3 and 3/4 hours this morning followed by another 2 and 3/4 this afternoon, all in her pram. Bed at 8pm as normal also. We are either going to have the night from hell or she is going to wake up tomorrow having achieved some mega developmental leap.

I use Fairy non-bio for all our clothes including the nappies and find it washes them up just fine. Entirely down to the fact that we all have sensitive skin and after trial and error it seems to be the one that doesn't bother any of us. I only use two tablespoons of powder for a nappy load though - it gets them perfectly clean and does avoid that funny starchy build up you get with too much powder.

randoms a cloth nappy lives or dies by how saggy it fits around the leg! Great that you can hire before buying your own, saves expensive mistakes, shame that type of service doesn't seem to be more widespread I reckon it would encourage more people to give them a go.

frolic enjoy your sloe gin . That should shift the rest of your cold at least!

mzzzf I too am enjoying grumpy 2 more now that she is out of the totally floppy newborn phase. Much less concerned that I am somehow going to break her!

fatty and anyone else still suffering with colds, hope you are feeling better.

dozy and clstow hope your bf'ing issues are on the mend.

tindel don't kill your in-laws!

Night night all x

Shitty evening here so far. Ds is full of snot again. It's all stuck at the back of his throat and he's making some horrible noises trying to clear it. He was ready to sleep at 8, but has only just conked out after 2 hours of moany tears. I've not seen him the upset since the week 3 colic. I have a feeling tonight is going to be a long one.

The article has made me feel much better for not buying non bio for Ds' clothes.

Glad you are getting on well with cloth random. Do you have any bambino mio ones in your trial? Ds is quite lithe and we are getting on well with their covers and all in ones.

Well done j on a good sleep tindel. Your mil sounds like a bit of a nightmare. Mumsnet's favourite retort "did you mean to be so rude?" might be useful in dealing with her.

I hope you had your coffee mzzf.
Wellies and a sling are great. I am quite impressed with our all terrain though. It's gone over a few places I thought it wouldn't. What have you got out of interest ? I'm a little obsessed with prams.
I really miss the tiny newborn stage. I was talking about it with a friend today and she was saying she hated it. I would have loads of squishy little newborns if I didn't have to get pregnant.

Ds is snoring his head off now. I'm going to attempt to put him down so I can have a pee and brush my teeth. Wish me luck?

Ah Mzzf to have a hot drink eh? Wouldn't that be amazing!

Sloe, nice work getting your tickets. Saints might surprise you! We haven't booked tickets yet but we're only talking about whether we should go earlier. I think we should and should take the girls. DD went to her first match aged 5 weeks whereas DH thinks taking both is too much hassle. That's cos he has to do some parenting when we have both you see!

Tindel, I am so jealous of your sleep! This afternoon both my kids were asleep (DS had randomly dropped off by himself on his sheepskin so I didn't even have him on me!) but I still couldn't have a nap despite last night's shit sleep.

I had to take DS to the doctor this morning as he has a rash all over his chest. Turns out it is just viral and may explain his grouchiness. He fell asleep at 8 tonight though so hopefully might do a bit better tonight.

Sorry for the me post. I think the tiredness is making me feel a bit sorry for myself and emotional.

No longer- extra drinks for you at the bar tonight! The tiredness really is an all consuming evil isn't it- has such a massive effect on mood, emotions etc. glad your DS is ok and not too serious- makes me feels ever so slightly better when there's an explanation behind them keeping me up.

Loving the star costume so gorgeous!

Good luck with the teeth and pee frolic!!

I do miss the newborn stage a little bit- mainly when I look back and see how tiny he was in photos but certainly like him being more robust and allowing me to put him down now. I'm definately torn between the two! Frolic are you sticking at one LO then?

The bio/ non bio article is interesting but like others have said I switched to non bio for DS and saw a big improvement in his dry skin and I always use 1 specific type of bio for me as I have had reactions to other stuff in the past.

That crib is gorgeous frolic and what a good price- if have probably bought one if if known prior to DS's arrival instead of Moses which I wasn't ever going to use as I had a baby hammock (never ended up using it as the safe sleep stuff rammed down my throat scared me- but the less said about that the better, still need to put it on eBay) but he's ended up in the Moses as a result. Doesn't seem worth getting one now for just a couple of months but I may well get one in the future for next baby.

I can't remember what else has been said so sorry those I've not replied to! I'm briefly going to whinge about DH again before I go to sleep so feel free to stop reading now..... he's driven me crazy all freaking day!! Finished his week of nights this morning so was staying awake all day as he's back in on overtime tommorrow morning and needed to flip his body clock back round- said he would have DS when he got in so I could catch up on sleep then he'd promised to clean the house as I couldn't do it last week when he was in bed every day and I was going to go out with DS and get all the payday essentials- nappies, milk, wipes, meat etc for the month. I got up at 9 when DS woke after I'd only had a few hours kip overnight to find DH downstairs on the couch- passed him DS and said I was going back to bed and that he needed changing for the day and feeding- he said could he not just stay in pjs as DH was soooooo tired. I said no to get on with it and he asked me (like kevin the teenager!) to sort the water out for his bottle and get his clothes from upstairs etc- he was hinting at me staying up but no way I was giving up my 1 lie in for 2 weeks! Long story short I went back to bed till 1130, DH moaned that I'd been in bed so long then fell asleep himself when I was getting ready. We went out to get all the shopping together as he said he couldn't clean, he spoke all day in a whingey voice like he was so tired he couldnt speak properly, screamed at virtually every other driver on the road, when I nipped in home bargains and came out with half moon cake for him to cheer him up said he was too tired to eat it then came home and he had a 2 hour nap whilst I cleaned upstairs, made tea, ironed his uniform, cleaned and sterilised bottles and did some laundry. Woke him up so he could do bath and bed- he managed bath and bottle then DS started whingeing- after 3 minutes DH announced he was so tired he was losing patience and could I do bed- I did. We've just come up to bed ourselves and after all this 'I'm sooooo tired' moaning he's gone playing on his ps4 to 'switch off' from work that he finished 15 hours ago!!!! I've been biting my tongue all day so as to avoid what I know would have been a huge argument but omfg I'm sodding tired every fecking day you absolute arsehole get a grip and man up you've been getting at least 6.5 hours sleep everyday after your night shifts- I would kill for that!!!!!!!

Sorry to bore you all with that but I felt like I might explode and needed to get it out before trying to sleep!!! Night mugabeans!

Wow I need to learn what 'briefly' means. Sorry!!!