August 2015. It's all about food consumption and late nights at Bar Mugabe Nights

[Dozygirl]

New thread for us fast talkers

Frolic try making a hot toddy rather than just honey and lemon - steep a few cloves in it, the oil is a topical anaesthetic and numbs your throat a bit. And adding a shot of whisky just makes it feel more effective!

Kbro when we co slept DS lay on the mattress facing me or on his back, with me lying on my side with my head resting on my lower arm, which was stretched out above the baby's head, and my knees tucked below him so that he was protected in the curve of my body. Pretty much as shown here. www.hobomama.com/2010/06/how-to-cosleep-safely-tutorial-in.html?m=1

I also pretty regularly fall asleep with him in my lap while sitting up against the headboard to feed. The biggest thing for safety was stopping using a duvet.

Rrra I give a bottle of formula at nightime and my supply is perfectly fine. I've done it from the beginning. I just can't get her to settle after a bf last thing. I made the mistake of trying to the other night because she'd had a bottle earlier on and that was a huge mistake as she was up loads in the night. I'm considering upping her bottles to 2 in the evening because sometimes she gets really fussy on the breast and I hate seeing her get so worked up by be forcing her to bf. Your supply should just adapt to it over time. Think further down the line when babies are weaning they need less feeds but your milk just adjusts, it doesn't dry up.

Oh frolic the buses days. Those were stressful days. I remember bbeing sure I wasn't pregnant because I had some spotting. I started reading the antenatal thread the other day from the start. So strange that was all coming up to a year ago. Hope u feel better soo . It sucks to be ill when you're a mum as u don't get a break.

Mzzf how do u pull saltwater through your nose??

I'm sure post pregnancy u have a lower immune system hence why we're all so ill. I'm on my third one since dd was born.

Mugabe to u all

Morning all

kbro I co-sleep - DD usually lies on top of me but lately I have been lying her on her own beside me. I put her in middle of bed and just lay on my side beside her. I know you are told not to co- sleep and I know the dangers but I have co-slept with all of my DCs (only way I could ever hope for some sleep!!) and it has worked well. After DD1 I got rid of cot and from co-sleeping they go straight to a bed. I don't know why it works so well for me but I just feel attuned to them but I would NEVER leave a baby in bed with DH as he has no awareness of them.

fanby I get the total rage if my DCs don't colour in the lines!! Am off to find the Cadbury Tree of Joy

rrra so happy for you that DS is home and well X

mzzf minimzzf so cute - my DCs didn't get their first tooth until 10-12mths whilst one of my friends babies was born with 2 teeth - bizarre how every baby is so different.

slow haha I am delighted to be your backup plan for Grumpy1

clstow took DD1 to see Hunger Games last night. Took baby with us (didn't want to leave her with DH for too long as I don't express and she has never had a bottle) Odeon are really good - let you take baby in as long as they are quiet, if you have to bring them out you get your money back - however, baby slept throughout the whole movie. I slept through some of it waking up with a jump when the Mutts came on!! DD1 loved it - she read all the books and likes all the movies so happy she had a good time. When we initially went in their were lots of raised eyebrows at sight of baby but when the movie ended, lots of people came up and said they couldn't believe how good she had been

X post siani WOW WOW WOW a whole nights sleep!!!!

Dd without fail falls asleep on me at the morning feed and will sleep for ages like that but if I dare to move her to put back in cot she wakes up cries. Such a little monkey. But I can't fall asleep because the position she falls asleep on me doesn't seem safe for Co sleeping if u know what I mean.

Morning all

Hope some of us got some sleep!

kbro I co sleep with a bed guard (in case dd rolled out) then dd on her back in a gro bag, I lay close to her on my side. It makes night feeds really easy, I just nudge closer to her and she feeds, it doesn't matter if either of us fall asleep. Dr Sears website has loads of useful information, including some sweet stuff about how baby and mum will breathe in sync in this position, it reduces risk of sids etc. I've started whipping out her nappy and throwing on a new one without getting her up too, I tend to around 3am as it's usually quite heavy by then.

I agree with pp don't worry about the number of sleep hours unless your baby seems grumpy from sleep deprivation. They're all different as with adults, I know some adults who need 10 hours per night and others need 5. Worst luck for me my older dd was never a big sleeper (sleep is for wimps ). But she's doing really well, bright and capable.

lily so sorry about your dog. It's heart wrenching to have to rehome a pet. I may have to rehome one of my four cats, as I took him on from a friend and he seems to be bullying the other cats. He waits round corners for them, won't let them downstairs to eat etc. he's a bit of a psychopath to be honest!

Afm I ended up in a&e last night with baby giraffe as she seemed to stop breathing and was choking and screaming. Most unlike her, she's normally very chilled. They couldn't work out what was wrong with her and her breathing. In the end their best guess was that she had some pain and an overly emotional reaction which made her struggle for breath and hold her breath, especially as she'd been screaming so probably irritated her airways. Anyway, the little pickle is back home and sleeping now. I could've done without the drama!

Hope everyone is well stocked with buenos/maltesers/ice cream. I'm into the popcorn atm, I went to Sainsbos yesterday and came out with a basketful and some Christmas DVDs needless to say I used the self serve till to avoid embarrassment haha

Thought this was relevant

Omg giraffes! Glad all is ok now and the malteasers have worked a treat!

Morning all! Ds went back to sleep until 8, so not too bad a night in the end. He seems a bit brighter today. Dh and I are still rotten. Why haven't they invented a cure for the cold yet?

He's due his jabs this afternoon. I'm just going to go along and see what they say.

We co-sleep using a sleepyhead kbro and I just lay my head next to it.

lily, I've tried with and without the cushion for the ergo and he seems fine without it now. He has really good head control, which
Is the main thing I think.

Yay for a good sleep siani! Long may it continue.
Thanks for the tip about cloves. I will try that later.

The conception bus is definitely worth a read back dozy. We were both so convinced it wasn't our month.
I hope you're feeling better today.

Oh god giraffes! That must have been so scary. I hope you're all ok today 💐

mzzf I love that poster! I agree, sleep deprivation is awful, but having been through this before you soon get over the sleepless nights as they get older. I think you get used to disrupted sleep too, even six year olds can wake in the night. I've never found controlled crying helpful, I tried it briefly with dd1 and it was awful, she was sick with distress. I prefer feeding to sleep/cuddling, mine seem less anxious that way. Every baby and parent is different though.

frolic glad you got some more sleep! Good luck with the vaccinations

When will I learn not to leave DD around the baby, even if I'm just popping for a wee? She fed him a chocolate button. He ate it. He's very happy about it.
Now I will read back.

Oh, fatty, I shouldn't laugh but he does look VERY pleased about it!!

This was the bit of text that went with the poster. Didn't copy across for some reason
"Sleep crutch: It is very useful to make a rod for your own back. If your baby will only sleep in bed with you; let her. (Although, this is not advisable if you smoke, drink alcohol or sleep on a bed of nails etc etc). If she will only settle after a feed; then feed her. If you need to rock or sing her into dreamland – do it. These popular sleep-crutches have been successfully getting babies to sleep for thousands of years."

Just rocking a crisp sandwich, back later x

Fatty how happy does he look! He's going to be hoping you wean him on chocolate buttons now

He can bugger off! He will be weaned on healthy food! (And some chocolate buttons for pud, just because he obviously likes them!)

Hi All

Hope you don't mind me joining very late. I was on the antenatal club with you all and my daughter arrived a week early (so technically a July baby) but as I was on the pregnancy journey with you all - would like to join now that I am getting out of the haze of motherhood.

Anyway congrats to everyone on their babies. Going to try and find all the threads and catch up!

Siani- yayyyy for your DS I am green with jealousy but well done!

Dozy- I had a quick read of the antenatal threads the other day from this time last year and felt quite nostalgic! I was surprised to read how sick and ill I was- even though I obviously remember being sick till 21 weeks I had forgotten just how horrific I felt! It's true what they say about forgetting I suppose other everyone would be an only child!

Loves- that's ace about odeon cinemas I didn't know that- glad you didn't need the refund facility though- I think I'd be terrified constantly of DS starting crying even though he isn't really a cryer.

Giraffes- that's scary but glad she was ok I'm dreading my first a&w trip i be beside myself.

Mzzf that poster is sooooo right for our thread!

Frolic- I think I'll have a play with the cushion in the ergo then- I'm just not sure if he's tall enough yet but I think he is definately big enough to lose the rest of the insert.

Fatty- he looks amazingly pleased with the choc button- not that we can blame him!

Welcome perpetual- I remember you from ante natal- don't worry I'm a cheat too my DS arrived 2.5 weeks early and so we are technically July too- 26th- you?

I'm sat in the car whilst DH has nipped to the pharmacy to pick up DS's prescription- too much effort to get him out his car seat, into the pram etc etc for a 3 minute trip up the street! Just seen a lady come out of track with a basket full of stuff and walk on her car to put it in the boot- obviously wasn't paying 5p for a bag! Hehe looked funny!

Went to a sensory room today via the children's centre- DS was absolutely mesmerised by the bubble thingy! Bless him! First time he's stayed awake to see it he's usually asleep after walking him there in the pram from the centre. They are apparently reducing our centres to 5 from 20 across the borough- absolutely ridiculous!! I'd be climbing the walls and definately would have had far more tears if it wasn't for those places! Don't know how new mums will manage in future!

Asked DH to get me a gingerbread man whilst he was on the high street he's come back with 3 and he doesn't like them- oh damn I'm so going to eat them all aren't I!! Supposed to be having 1 as a treat whilst I've been doing so well being healthy! Ah well!!

Lucky fatty boy getting a choccie button. I'm planning on smushed broccoli for mini mzzzf's first tastes Fatty am I right in thinking that you'll be weaning soon anyway? I'm going to start tastes this Sunday!!

I can already tell that tonight will be a bit of a nightmare as dd is refusing to nap despite constant eye rubbing and yawning. Babies are total dickheads sometimes!!!

Buuuuut I'm trying not to stress about it, let's carry on regardless. Plus it can't me much worse than what she's already thrown at me previously (famous last words!).

Ok folks what's the consensus on when the tree is going up?! I will be doing a pre Christmas decorations tidy this weekend in preparation!!!

Gis a gingerbread Lily!!!

Yeah, I've decided to start this Saturday so I can establish a sort of routine over the weekend before school again on Monday. I wasn't planning on using chocolate as a first food though! I'm doing cauliflower as his first taste.

Hello everyone, hope you are having nice evenings. DH is running late, so just chilling with J.

The HV came today and we had a really good chat. I'm being referred to the community mental health team for an assessment with a view to getting some counselling to help me manage my anxiety. It felt good to have a chat and she was really nice about it all. I also got a prescription for cream and bath stuff for J's skin, so hopefully that will clear up and help him to stay a bit happier. We're getting more time where he likes looking at toys and almost giggling, which is really nice.

I've also just arranged to go and have a day of visiting colleagues to show J off in a few weeks, which should be really lovely.

mzzf our tree tends not to go up until quite late, normally because we are so disorganised! Also, my sister has an early December birthday, so I grew up not allowed to start Christmas until after that. As a result, my Christmases are short, but fun! Not sure how much J will be involved, but am going to get him a decent Christmas outfit for sure!

Wow Mzzf and fatty weaning already?! That's scary! I'm probably going to wait to the recommended 6 months mainly because I'm lazy and can do BLW that way giving him bits of my food but so because he isn't showing any interest whatsoever in food- he sits with me whenever I'm eating and hasn't once watched the food or done that mimicking eating thing that I've heard Lot of babies do. He isn't particularly a hungry or greedy baby so I think he'll be happy with milk till then. That said if he shows interest in the next couple of months then i might reassess.

Mzzf- our tree will probay go up on the 6th! Usually we don't do it till quite late and don't get particularly excited because we are always working over Xmas with ushly only 1 of the 3 main days off but we are both quite excited this year as we have DS even though I know he doesn't know what it is! Also we are having Xmas at our house with my brother and his missus and my dad and step mum staying for a few days so I'm really looking forwRd to it this year. It's going to be a massive contrast to last Xmas where DH worked Xmas day and I did a whole week of nights Xmas week whilst throwing up and having to pretend I didn't feel like crap as we hadn't told anyone I was pregnant!! Although I did t participate in Halloween outfits for DS he already has an elf and Santa outfit! I'm pretty sure he will be gettin a Xmas pud one too!!

Tindel so glad the chat with the HV went well and you felt good afterwards. Glad J is getting more interactive with you- it really helps to get something back from them doesn't it. I got some zero base cream prescribed for DS picked it up today and the bottle is huge so should last a good while!

I'm quietly optimistic about tonight- he hasn't been asleep since 4pmbut has been happy and playing and laughing. Did bath and book then bottle at 8pm- he was falling asleep whilst eating but managed to finish the whole 7oz and is now asleep on my shoulder.

Mzzf- sorry I've snaffled all the gingerbread men

Off to attempt transfer....

Greetings! Ds didn't have a temperature, so we went ahead with the vaccinations. He's been much happier today than yesterday. I'm a bit better and we managed to get out for lunch with a friend and some Christmas shopping, which has been lovely after being cooped up at home.
Ds is currently asleep in his sleepyhead on my bed and I'm mumsnetting in the dark. A monitor has been purchased so that we can move on to project ETB (earlier to bed) next week. If I can be arsed

Wise words there mzzf.
I bloody love a crisp sandwich! What flavour did you opt for?
Our tree is usually up on the 1st. I love it when the house is all decorated and cosy. I will swap my usual vanilla candles for Christmassy ones then as well. Gives a bit of a festive twist to the smell of old dog!
Are you following any 'method' for weaning? I'm thinking of looking at a blw book to see what that's all about. Any recommendations welcome.

That sensory room sounds fab lily. It's crap about the children's centres closing. So many people will miss out on vital support.
Mmmmmm gingerbread!

that all sounds really positive tindel.
Christmas outfits are a must this years think. I've got Ds a jumper and a lovely baby grow. And when I went through the bag of stuff my friend passed on to me the other day I found a few more outfits. I may start rotating them from the 1st December [santa]

I hope everyone has had a good day. We are almost done with shitvember - December is going to be so much better! I'm predicting more sleep, more booze and less lurgy all round.

Blimey giraffes that sounds horrible. Poor baby and poor you.

Thanks for all the co sleeping advice. Will give it a go tomorrow morning of DS will play ball.

Fatty he does look pleased with himself bless him. Oh could fancy some chocolate buttons right now.

Tindel that so good you have a supportive HV. Well done for talking to her. Can't imagine was easy so v brave step. DS is not a big giggler either. No matter how many times I sing row row the bloody boat. Dh says its cause he takes after him and his solemness.

Oh christmas! So excited about it. DH and I have a difference of opinion about this. We'll be up north for actual christmas so DH thinks this means no tree. Whereas I think this means tree early December. DS already has a couple of christmas outfits. Worth checking out mothercare as they have a sale on Christmas clothes at moment.

Thank you also for the reassurance about DS lack of sleep. He never had 18 hours as a newborn either but I can't undo that so no point stressing. This thread makes me feel so much better. Love that poster mzzzf. Esp the bit it chopped off. Some of the mums I did nct with are big cry it out advocates and don't think they get why I don't want to. Could be doing them a total disservice here but feel like they really don't think I should be letting him nap on me. But my baby, my rules or my accurately when it comes to napping, my baby, his rules.

Exciting about weaning. Think we are going to try and wait till 6 months as there are lots of tummy problems in my family genes. However DS is always hungry so am open to reviewing as we go.

Mzzzf hope I didn't offend you when I said some people reckon a bottle improved sleep. Its like everything to do with babies that people say. Works for them and utter bollocks for others. And does not a single thjng to improve DS sleep.

DS clearly wasn't asleep on my shoulder he was hanging over it on his phone reading my post saying 'I'm quietly optimistic....' Yeah right mummy I'm going to do the opposite!! He woke up the second I lay him down and cried! I'd forgot funny so ran downstairs to get it then spent an hour playing the DS thrashes like a Duracell bunny whilst moaning, grabs my hand, pretends to be asleep, I remove hand, he pretends to be asleep, I stand up, his eyes fly open and off goes the Duracell baby again game!!! I gave up and came back down with him- he fell asleep in 10 minutes but has woke up screaming hysterically twice before dropping back off! I suspect the pesky teetheypegs again!

Kbro you must insist the tree goes up anyway! 2 Christmases ago me and DH were both supposed to be working Xmas day all day so wrote it off totally- no decorations or anything and said we would celebrate on our skiing hol the first week on jan instead- I injured my back at work 3 days before Xmas so spent it laid up on the couch in the house alone with no deccies, dosed up on tramadol it was depressing!

Glad you got out and about frolic and are feeling cheerier! Ohhhhh you reminded me about the Yankee Xmas cookie candles- I swear I could eaT them they smell so good! The sensory room really is ace it's in a local special needs high school so is really too noch- sometimes the college students doing health and social care come in to ask questions about the babies which is really nice.

Right I'm off to play the fight sleep game again with DS- this time I'll say he's defo going to wake up as soon as I move in the hope the opposite will happen!!