August 2015. It's all about food consumption and late nights at Bar Mugabe Nights

[Dozygirl]

New thread for us fast talkers

I have her on the floor with the dogs wandering about. They get a shouty 'oi' if they step even a claw onto the play mat though!!
She loves looking at them wandering by and really loves it when they stop to sniff her. Tummy time and all play mat time is big is this house though as it's the only time she is off me apart from her nighttime sleep.

Again my memory is failing me. Hope you get a sensible person to talk to Tindel!

Love the sound of the lunch! Today mine was a little late as the bread wasn't ready due to a couple of feeding marathons at inconvenient junctures - started making bread as local supermarkets are rubbish and DH doesn't like bread machine bread so getting the machine to make the dough and then shaping proving and cooking myself. Tried a Ciabatta recipe - not very authentic - too close textured - but tastes ok if not too Ciabatta like.

Made it to our first group since the lurgy which was nice - really missed them.

F still sleeping well at night but daytime naps are becoming a battle. Had to go for a walk in the pouring rain as she was getting stupidly overtired fighting sleep so had to chuck her in her waterproof suit, sling on and brave the weather!

Not done tummy time since lurgy arrived but she rolled once front to back and hasn't tried since. She's better at sitting barely supported than tummy stuff!

Mzzf- I'm too paranoid to have him on the floor with the dogs there. We have done it a few times when DH has been here and they are good but i just worry. They are both 7 and 1 acts his age and is a big softy and quite slow nowadays. The other I swear has ADHD and other mental health issues as she is insane! She's still like a giddy puppy and the other one actually runs away from her when she gets too much for him. I worry she will get in one of her giddy moods and trample DS or something. Totally unfounded really as the times we've tried they've been really good and actually laid down next to the mat but I just can't relax!

Randoms- DS is much better at barely supported sitting too and standing up- anything involving his legs really they are mega strong- a healthcare people have commented on them! He doesn't seem to know what his arms are for at all! Tummy time still equals face plants- he does lift his head but his arms end up behind him so he's doing little dorsal raises bless him. Send some of that bread my way mmmmm!

Fingers crossed he's going to go down tonight- he's asleep in DHs arms at the mo- stealth transfer coming up! Fingers crossed!

I'm still upstairs trying to get dd down for the night/evening. What used to be a DH job is now my job (on top of every other baby bloody related job!) - awesome!
She cries on/at him and he can't settle her, despite trying all his best moves So I've got to step in as it's not fair on either of them, they both wind each other up. And I really don't want her to have bad vibes at bedtime. Am I being too soft?

Lily - if you're not comfy with the dogs then don't do it, you don't want DS picking up on scary dog vibes. Maybe though you could try one dog at a time? Or having a buffer of cushions round the area he's playing in? My two are 8yrs old and a bit clumsy sometimes but they both seem to get that DD is a puppy.

I had A LOT of cabbage tonight for dinner and can already feel the belly gurgling Could be interesting in Mugabes later!!

I think my two would get he's a puppy and they have been gentle sniffing him when I've sat him on my knee near them. I might do it one at a time like you say and try it more, I feel like I need to get over my paranoia and do it as when he's crawling/ toddling I won't be able to keep them separate 24/7 without a major headache.

Just managed to get DS down now! DHs stealth transfer didn't work and he started crying when I went up to take over so DH could eat his tea (that's what I said whereas In reality like you Mzzf I don't want him crying with DH as he takes ages to settle). He technically hadn't had his last feed as he had one at 7pm so wasn't ready for another before bed so in the end he took 4pz and panned out whilst I was winding him! So an hour and 40 tonight! He's getting worse!!!

Nathan has not settled all day, not let me put him down at all, every time I've gone to lie him down asleep he's woke up. DP turns up, takes him, sticks him down and he goes to sleep!

Greetings from Liverpool!
We're having a lovely time, despite the shit weather and sickly colds. Ds has been a little star most if the time, apart from being over tired and fighting sleep, but that's not really new.
We've stayed in an apparent, which has been a godsend. It's been so nice to come back, chill out, watch tv and order a take away. They upgraded us when we arrived to a place with a balcony and an extra bedroom. Ds and I are rocking the big bed, while dh is all cosy in the spare single room - very romantic . I will take and post a pic Of the view from the balcony tomorrow. It's very special.

I don't feel festive at all, despite there being some Christmas stalls and stuff around. But I have done quite a bit of the present shopping. I've also got a few nice bits for Ds. I haven't bought anything for myself as I can't face the realit of my current size in a changing room mirror.

I've not done a good job at keeping up the past few days.

tindel, you have had some excellent advice, which I won't repeat. I will say, however, as a mental health professional, that talking about things is the absolute best you can do. Many, many people experience times of feeling down, especially having experienced a massive life change. It is very normal. Becoming a mother is the biggest change of all IMO, as it affects so much, both physically and emotionally. Things happend quite early and unexpectedly for you if I recal rightly, so you have had so much more to process. I can assure you that talking about how you are feeling now will help those feelind

SO furious at DH!!! DD not sleeping at night, I had to skip my class today so I could make sure dd got naps throughout the day, spent 2 hours getting her to go down tonight, then DH just clambers into bed and wakes up the baby! Now I'm up feeding her and he's asleep

Wonder if I should shove the pillow in his face!!!

Ahhh grok that SO frustrating!!

Mini mzzzf just had her night feed, my belly rumbled after shortly after she finished so I thought I'd risk it for a biscuit and put her in the cot quickly whilst I went to the loo (#cabbage!). I was only about 4mins but could her hear grumbling (the kind that is pre crying of left to develope!) from there. DH hadn't moved a muscle to soothe her . Really makes me worried if I ever have to leave her with him, makes me sad that he's not in tune enough to her to be alerted and bloody gutted for myself that I can't have a real nights sleep until she sleeps through! Balls!

I think DH is going through another rough patch with tiredness/emotions - they are inextricably linked in men's brains I think! I know I should be the better person and try to help him but I'm finding it hard to manage a baby and a husband at the same time. He hardly does anything house wise when he comes home from work, which is fine but then I don't like getting all the housework put on my to do list! For example I offered for him to get extra sleep in the spare room tonight () but he refused because the bedding hasn't been changed since our last guest! I had to bite my tongue to not say "bloody change it then" and just said 'ok, but it won't be magically cleaned by tomorrow' - hint hint do it yourself mister! It also makes me think that you can't be that tired as I'd sleep in there if someone offered that deal to me! Grrrr anyway I could wind myself in knots about that but there's no point. The weekend can't come soon enough!!

It's pouring down here is morning - wish I could keep everyone home and avoid the school run!!

lily I am very at you looking so young! I am another one who is made-up every day - I don't know why but I just feel so much better when I've had a shower, got my face on and am dressed - it doesn't even matter if I'm running late - lippy on at all times - other mums at school gate always laughing at me and my lippy! Loved the 'wind the mummy up' words! Show Me Show Me on CBeebies were singing Wind the Bobbin Up the other day and me and DD4 have been singing it all week - feel so much better singing other words in head

frolic you sound like you are having a great time - love the snugly lamb skin !

grok you definitely should have smothered him!!!

mzzzf my DH sleeps through crying, sickness, nightmares - basically the whole house falling on his head - it is infuriating - I feel your pain.

Off to give the xtrainer a whirl before DD wakes up. Not a bad night - 9-2 then fed from 2-4 - still sleeping now. Good day to all........

Frolic your little holiday sounds ace and don't blame you for being absent from the thread to enjoy! DS looks very snugly in that liner I'm tempted by one myself now. Can I be nosey and ask what job you do? Feel free to tell me to F off- I'm looking to get into that field myself that's all.

Grok- I'd have smothered him 100%!! I really do think this thread is going to have save a few of our marriages the amount of venting we do about our OHs- I'm going to add one to the mix becaus either wise I have no chance of trying to go back to sleep!! DH left for work about 30 minutes ago so I have of course been up with the baby since then because he makes more noise than a small herd of elephants getting ready!! to start with he snoozed his alarm 3 times and DS stirred and whinged everytime. He then must have been throwing toiletries round the shower for fun judging by the sound of it and then as he came out the bathroom (ensuite- the door of which is about 2 foot from DS's head) left the light on and door wide open shining light all over him!!! I actually think I might kill him soon he also asked 'how's he slept' me: 'not great but slightly better than the night before' him: 'oh good enough then' arghhhhhhhhhhhh no bit sodding good enough- good enough would be a 5 hour stretch of uninterrupted sleep which I haven't had in months you absolute moron!!! And breathe.........

Mzzf- with you on DH not waking too- someone else said it the other day and I know I've said it before but I'm exactly the same and I'm going on a hen do in 2 weeks that will probably extend into the middle of the night so he's going to have to switch on or stay up all night till in home! I'm not drinking at least so can take over when I'm back.

Going to a charity night organised by work tonight- I was really looking forward to it to catch up with everyone but in so damn tired and will have to get ready in about 30 minutes so will look like crap that now I'm regretting saying I'll go

DS had just dropped back off on my shoulder so I'm going to risk another cheeky snooze (hopefully!) stealth transfer coming up........

X posts loves! I think our makeup is like battle paint isn't it- I feel ready to take on the day once it's on too!

Impressed with you going on the x trainer at this time as I slump back to bed- do 20 minutes for me wil you

I'm sore, I'm tired, I'm sick.
"D" P has a sore leg.
Guess who gets to wallow in self pity and who has to suck it up.

I could do my makeup but just lately I've been so down I don't feel like putting it on. I don't feel like doing anything. I just want to cry

Sorry. I'll cheer up now. I've got the DC to look after.

Been reading but by the time I've caught up I haven't the energy to post so I've not posted for a while.

Tinder how are u feeling? Sorry you are feeling so dow . It is a hard battle and for some it is harder than others. You definitely need to find the right person to talk to about it. The gp didn't sound too helpful really. Things will improve for u xxx

Frolic that sheepskin is gorgeous as is your cool little dude. He has long eyelashes! ! All the boys get them, so not fair. Where did u get the sheepskin from?

We've had some good night's and some bad nights but mainly good night's. Yesterday I had to sacrifice a shower in order to get her fed and ready for baby group on time . I feel like a minger right now haha.

I'm thinking of increasing her evening bottles to 2 rather than one. She usually feeds from me loads in the evening then guzzles her bed time bottle. I went out with my friends on Wednesday for a meal so left dd with dp. He fed her a bottle and she fell asleep which she never does, then only took a couple of ounces of her nightime bottle but then slept till 8"45! I can always use the evenings to express instead if I give her the extra bottle. Went out for a meal last night wth dp (we like eating out too much) so my plan was to take a bottle. Made up the bottle ready but totally forgot to take it but obviously I still had my boobs. Anyway she was having one of her fussy moments where she wouldn't latch on with shields or without them and was kicking up a fuss in a quiet restaurant so I got pretty stressed out and nearly wanted to cry. It's not fair that she can spend all day feeding beautifully and easily off me and then other times she is bloody hard work to feed and usually that is when we are in public trying to do it discreetly.

There's been some funny stories on here lately. Loving the anecdotes. I'd be mortified having to go outside in my swim costume. Plus it would be freezing!

Happy Friday everyone

Happy Friday everyone! Have just left a message for the health visitor, which might have been the hardest thing I've done in a long while. We had quite a good night for us - feeds at 9.15, 2.15 and 7, so am feeling a bit more refreshed. J is currently napping in his bouncy chair and I would love to leave him there, but am trying to time feeds so that he enjoys music class later this morning. We did much better last week, he lasted until the tummy time section, which he's not a big fan of anyway.

We have lots of lovely things planned this weekend, including our first couple night out! Our friend is watching J - we met up earlier in the week and he dozed off in her arms, which she loved. We're not going far or for very long, so if he just does that while we're out, it will be fine with us.

Good for you Tindel, hopefully the HV will be in touch soon. I think you're very strong for being able to seek help, and hopefully a date with your OH will give you a well deserved break.

I'm another one who wears battle paint make up - I kind of think if I look ok then it helps me feel ok. Also have got it down to a 5 minute fine art since the arrival of DS, the time consuming flicky eyeliner is only for special occasions now!

Crap night last night, worst in ages and DS was up for the day at 4:30! He's only had a 45 min nap since then but seems fine. I wish I had his energy - 4:30 is no time to start the day imo.

Frolic your boy and view both look gorgeous. We have a snuggly lamb skin for the pushchair as well, looks like such a nice way to travel, wish I could have one in the car!

Off to baby massage class today and DP will hopefully be home on time so we can go for dinner in the pub before A goes to bed. Hope everyone has a lovely day, seems like lots of the babies are being a bit challenging at the mo, but maybe today will be the turning point... In the meantime grab a Bueno and a brew and put your feet up

That is a smashing view! You lucky duck hahaha

I'm going to be the odd one out on the battle paint - I haven't worn makeup since before DS was born, and that was just because I was marching in the pride parade with my community group, and you can't wear sequins without eyeliner.

Tindel well done on ringing the HV. I've found the HV here really good with that sort of thing - mine gave my other half a lecture about me needing to take it easy because she noticed I was overdoing it, and has made a point of talking about PND and the emotional side of things. I was under extra mental health care during pregnancy because my hormones and getting pregnant straight after a miscarriage made my anxiety go COMPLETELY unmanageable. Everyone was really helpful and supportive and focused on just helping me with no judgement. I know mums often worry about admitting that they are having trouble with mental health, or admitting they don't feel like blissfully loving earth mothers for fear of being seen as bad parents, but everyone just told me how very common these problems are and how glad they were that I was talking about it.

Sorry to hear so many people having bad sleep and whingy babies. Lots of and all round. DS has been cluster feeding like CRAZY the past couple of days, but has actually been sleeping at night again... So obviously I was awake half the night with raging insomnia. Gah!

Got my first "maternity pay only" paycheck this month. Ouch. It's enough for mortgage and about half my bills. Imagination Christmas in this house I think. I've already got Fergus the Mog toy and book at Sainsbury's, and I think that's going to be all he gets.

Thanks all for the sympathy on DP doing nothing around the house. I always said I'd do it all while on maternity leave. I had no idea how much work a baby is and I regret it now!!

Hi sorry I have been reading but not had time to post. Ds1 has impetigo and what looks like the start of chickenpox. He has spots but not many and they aren't blistering. He seems absolutely fine and they aren't itchy Took him to the gp yesterday for the impetigo and got antibiotics but she wasn't sure about the chickenpox either Ds2 seems ok.He's just having a little nap on me. Daytime naps are still hit and miss unless he is on me or in the sling but since going into the cot bed nightime sleeps have been good. 8 till 6.30 with just 1 quick feed about 3. I even managed to go to the local lastnight with some other mums for a couple of hours. Hope this is the turning point but I am bracing myself for the 4 month sleep regression.
Frolic that view is amazing, get it on #nofilter
Well done for talking to the hv tindel. Here's some Buenos.

Siani I think you need to remind dh that you are on 'maternity' leave not housework leave. Speaking of which might have to put ds2 down for a bit and run the hoover round

First world problem alert! I am stuck in the car on the drive with two sleeping children who I am too scared to move in case they wake up but I only have 6% battery and on my phone. What do I do when my battery goes?? Oh and I am starving! Chuck me some of those fake Buenos.

Tindel, well done on calling the hv. I hope she gets you the support you need.

Fatty, how are you feeling? Sounds like things are pretty tough for you at the moment.

Siani, I think you can go back on the house work agreement now Fergus is here. It is quite obvious that babies are a lot more work than anticipated. I haven't vacuumed for weeks...I just pick up the big bits when they get too visible

Frolic, enjoy the shopping!

Oh I'm another one who wears make up everyday. It makes me feel better despite being 2 stone over my ideal weight.

Awful night here btw. DD also woke up so was double dealing both children. DH amazingly didn't hear a thing!! How can they do it?! Pisses me right off!

Hi everyone

Sorry to hear about all the crap dhs. I've got zero expectations of mine at night as I've never got round to expressing and he can't breastfeed I prefer him to sleep in another room, as both of us sleep deprived results in arguments....

I've found that dh is quite good at getting baby to sleep and this is her job every evening whilst I bath and put older dd to bed. However I stopped doing his laundry as he moaned about my technique, so he can do his own

Is everyone going back to work after mat leave? I was made redundant so I won't be. I'll take some time out I think and spend some time with the dc, I went back to work after dc1 though.

AARRRGHH!! I'm stuck in traffic hell! We're not moving, Ds is wanting boobage and there is nowhere to pull off. Utter balls.
I would ask someone to send me some bueno's, but I probably shouldn't as I've just had a big cry in the shops because I'm so fat.
Do you think it's ok if I try to dangle a boob over the car seat?

Thanks dozy, his eyelashes are really long. The sheepskin came from John Lewis. I already know it was a good buy.
Ds is shit at feeding out and about as well. I reckon he's too nosy to stay still and concentrate when there is loads going on around us. It's so annoying.

I hope you all get well soon everything.

You need to buy car charger nolonger!

I'm going back to work in May giraffes. I'll be part time all of next summer and then 4 days from September onwards. I miss work a little bit, so hopefully it won't be too hard going back.

I'm not allowed a lemsip while breastfeeding, am I? I can't tell you how much I'm fantasising about hitting up some decongestant right about now. Maybe the bar man at mugabes could make me a lovely hot toddy later on.

nolonger I'm OK thanks. I think it's just the sleepless nights getting to me. DS2 wakes DD up so I end up dealing with two babies, plus they are both teething so I have that fun to deal with. I've got DP having them both downstairs tonight (DS2 in travel cot, DD on sofa) so I can get a full night without one of them waking me, and I've got Chinese on its way bring me the seaweed!

Don't worry mugabeans I will share