November 2012 - Bring out the paddling pools

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Izzy that's hard. Can they not give you a relaxant ? Or is that bad in the run up to a op. No idea.

yw that's awful
Stunt I don't remember that.
Pass the wake up 20 mins ago doesn't seem so bad now.

Yw happy to hear about meds.

Need to find A a coat. They both have hoodies for when it's milder as they go most places in the car. But should still get a bigger coat for park and out door play at nursery. Also need to buy 1st bday party outfits. So a shopping trip is on the cards

Morning all.

So very sad YW, and I also did not know that Stunt. Lots of ladies did disappear from the thread, and I tried not to assume the worst.

Why is it that men can only do one thing? Like oiling the deck - power wash yesterday, and has done nothing since as is is drying. Grr!

Izzy if they are worried about your bp, and it could impact surgery, then they should be arranging ambulatory bp monitoring to prove it is white coat syndrome. Sorry for a shitty night xx

It was NutellaOnToast. She suddenly developed pre-eclampsia and started having flashing lights before her eyes. By the time she got to hospital it was too late for the baby and she was lucky to survive herself. It's sad that she just disappeared off the thread but I think she needed to make a quick break, she just wanted to be able to put it all behind her.

oh no yw. how awful and also how terribly said about the lady on our thread stunt. Gosh it's just unimaginable.

yw good news re meds. I've halved Es meds too and all looking good so far. Aim to have her off them by the time dc3 here. Just need to get her eating issue under control.

Nice to read of happy woodland walks. Had a lovely meal out with DH. Then yesterday spent a lovely afternoon at a friend's house and once kiddies were in bed I popped over to my friends to watch the strictly launch show.

I'm off to a nearly new sale this morning to see if I can bag some winter bargains. Mainly for DD1 as of course E has hand me downs and has a brand new coat waiting for her from last year. Might pick up a few bits though so she does have something "new".

This morning I have made Greek yoghurt, I have beef and butternut squash madras in the slow cooker, chilli con carne on the hob, and rye bread in the breadmaker. Now I'm having a sit down watching Peppa Pig with J and a cup of tea and feeling all pleased with myself. He's definitely got over the terrible separation anxiety so I get some time to do chores now.

QM you recommended spelt bread but Mr Tesco delivered rye flour instead. Have you tried rye bread? I'm quite looking forward to it. I haven't been eating much bread for over a year while I was eating low carb. I had a slice of white bread fresh from the breadmaker yesterday, with loads of butter on, and it was delish!

Good luck with cutting down the Omeprazole YW. It'll be really nice not to have to keep remembering medicines all the time. What are your plans for the new baby with regard to potential allergies? Are you going to go dairy-free as a precaution or wait and see how things do? I always took a probiotic in late pregnancy in the hope that it would help prevent allergies but I don't know whether that's an accepted technique or something I made up! At least you'll be able to avoid a CS now that miniWellies is in the right orientation, I'm sure that's a real relief.

I have a dilemma. I have a lot to say to everyone but at the. O my mind is overtaken by "the dilemma"

And it is this.

We had planned to go for Chritmas to my dads. But we can't stay at dad because there is not enough room for us and his wife,s children (who do not have children)so we were going to stay In a hotel. DH has now turned round and said why don't I go just for the day on Christmas Eve to see the girls and fly home, because he doesn't think O will do well for two nights in a hotel with potential Christmas parties going on.

I have to say I feel that my feelings have been completely ignored by everyone involved.

By Dh because this is the first time I have managed to get us invited to my childhood home since my mum died, because my dad and his wife had to make sure that her children didn't get left out. and why would I want to go somewhere at Christmas without him. And, is he expecting me to fly back Cnristmas Eve and then cook a Christmas .dinner do the Christmas stuff here on Christmas Day?

By my DF that he makes us, with kids that have to go and stay In a hotel, not her kids who do not have children.

So, I want to be loyal to DH but I want to for Christmas there. I don't want to have A row with my dad but I do think he and his wife are a little unfair to me on this one.

Is DHs point valid or is he saying that because he doesn't want to go.

Can someone out me right please as I don't know which way to turn on this.

How do DH and your DF get on wanda?

Afernoon guys :) bit later with an epic post than expected but it couldn't be helped, busy weekend! Thought i'd better pop on now, off to see Mr Lee Evans tonight, am very excited! He was fab last time we saw him and I can imagine much of the same! Not too much to report here, E is coming on leaps and bounds, though sometimes is a real struggle and quite the drama queen! He has discovered a love of the disney films planes and cars, and wants to watch them over and over and over. This morning we watched ratatouille in bits and bobs around breakfast and running a couple of errands. I'm trying to work out the best plan of action as i'm concerned he is watching a bit too much tv for my liking. I didn't mind when it was more of a background thing for him and not always on, but now he's actively actually wanting it on and sits watching it for ages at a time.

Trying really hard to lose weight, and so far i'm doing ok, i've gone down a dress size and lost 9lbs this month :) woo! It's given me a right boost, I was trying but not as hard as I could've been so this month i'm going to really work at it and see where that gets me :)

Hi Jims sorry you are poorly :(

Love the new name qm

pass i've not cooked a steak in ages! Sounds like a fab tiget song, that one! Hope P has had better sleep since your post? Guess I will find out, am posting as I read again so bear with me...

hello to fellow stalkers :)

gt aw shame he wouldn't try the spag bol! Maybe he would if you offered it a few times? E can be a bit funny with new things too. Making a few currys at the weekends sounds like a good plan, I am starting to batch cook, could do with emptying my freezer a bit first too though. Oh well. Today I am making tomato soup :) it's sat bubbling away and I am choosing to ignore the fact I have owned an iron for a week and still havent used it, and also haven't mopped the floors yet, so am far from domestic godess. Oops!

The weather is just right isn't it lily I'm finding i am having to buy all of erics colder clothes over again as he has apparently grown out of 2-3 long stuff and now requires 3-4 for most things :( Sorry you had to wait extra time for your epic post, I'm rubbish of late!

bplp bit late but i had some wine to drink last night, it's a rarity for me, and I must say I felt ever so relaxed and lovely. I wonder if wine can count as one of your five a day? can it? tell me it can!

Sounds like everyone had lovely days yesterday! We went plane spotting (not kidding, it's what he asked to do!!!) and train spotting (Again, he asked) and to the park, and then to feed the ducks and walk around a local nature spot and kick a football about for a bit. Nothing terribly exciting but really lovely anyway :)

oh no yw that's so so sad :( stunt i didn't realise that, and now I feel awful :( that must be one of the hardest things ever to go through

oh no izzy when is it your surgery?

stunt lookit you! here's me thinking my tomato soup makes me fabulous, lol! that all sounds really yummy!

good luck with the meds dropping peeps! hope it goes well :)

hmm wanda I do think it's unfair of your dad to be asking you to stay in a hotel. Would it be possible to explain to your dad that your dh has raised a point you hadn't previously thought of and if you did that is there any chance he would say to you to stay there then instead of his wife's children?

Right, can hear e on his monitor so i better skidaddle, hope to keep up!

And could you go home for Xmas a few weekends earlier? Have two Christmases? I know there is Xmas at my mum's house early December for my eldest sister and the rst of them, the Chsitmas day itself is done at my other sister's who lives locally when my eldest sister can't be there. V common win win arrangement for scattered families sorry typos rushing out x back later

They always seem to get on fine. They are both quite laid back pr bearing in mind my DH is very very anti social. Not in a horrible way, he is just not a social, chit chaterer so I had wondered if it was something to do with that.

But I have to say when he gets something in his head like this about O ( or remember when his dad had ago a go at me and we never stayed in their house again, because he was cross on my behalf) he pretty much won't be moved. He won't see the emotional Side of it at all.

I accept all this stuff about my husband and it is fine. It is who he is.

Doesn't make me any the less upset about it though.

Your idea about two Christmasses might be the compromise. I wonder if we go the weekend of the 19th we could all go and stay there. I might out that forward to him this evening. And we could make that an annual thing if it works well.

I don't go home for xmas because I am worried about the crossing and the roads, but I know that compromise solution has worked for my siblings the last few year. Eldest DSis doesn't have kids, but her DW does so they obvs like to spend actual Christmas with them.

See what your DH says to that and re-evaluate.

Do your girls ever come to you for Christmas?

That is another issue really. We did do alternates but then DH started going on About how they had routines that they wanted to stick to and liked or something. So they last alternation they stayed there and I had them. So the idea is this year I have the girls Christmas Eve, or I suppose the weekend before if we change to going then. Ahhhhhhhhhhh. When did Christmas become such an absolute stress. And I haven't even got to gifts and turkeys and how many roasties everyone gets.

Sorry I missed out a sentence somehow.

I had them directly after Christmas

I don't fly at Xmas time. Too many planes cancelled just days before, snow is always an issue, lots of stress.i had one flight book one year on the 24th, that day the fog was awful and most flights were cancelled. I was in tears for not being able to make it to Hungary to see my family. The following year u just flew mid December to avoid all the stress and had a lovely Xmas with only Leo in the uk. If I were you I'd go the weekend before. Xmas is when you make it, it doesn't need to be on the 25th. The main thing is to see your girls and your dad.

I once flew back from Paris just before Christmas and was the last passenger on the plane. Actually was asked to get OFF the plane as some kid had vommed on some seats, they hadn't cleaned up and there was no more room. It was the last flight before xmas and my option was spending xmas alone in Paris.

I had had a horrendous journey to the airport which involved being evacuated from the metro in the tunnel, walking up the rails with my bags and shitloads of commuters to the nearest station and legging through rain and busy streets with my bags to find there was a strike and the trains to the airport were not guaranteed. Fortunately I had left plenty of time to get there, and finally got a train and spent it squashed in the tiniest space imaginable (thank god i was thin then). I was in tears of relief when I got to the airport and when they tried to kick me off the plan I staged a sit in until they covered the seats with sawdust and bin liners (could feel the squelchy vomit underneath). Me and these other two passengers demanding to stay on the plane meant it was delayed by almost three hours and we were not popular with the other passengers at all. I didn't care though as I needed to get home - I was going through a really difficult time in Paris.

We landed at midnight but I was home for Christmas. They gave us free wine so that helped.

But it was the worst (and smelliest) flight ever. And didn't get a refund. -Thanks easyjet.

I haven't been back in winter since. I got together with DH the next spring and we legged it out of Paris. We went to his parents one disastrous Christmas but other than that have spent Christmas here.

Ooh lily it was the year of the fog I think - I wasn't flying to London but it was one of the reasons the flight was so full as passengers were being diverted.

Well done on your weight loss kyz btw that's great!

Well done kyz!

wanda do you mean XH re the routines?

First nice after nursery/work day yet. Still rushed and chaotic but I got to sit for 5mins and play and read to boys. Both asleep now. Off to eat then finish a stupid amount of work for teaching tomorrow.

Evening. It sounds pretty unfair wanda and I am not surprised you feel ignored. Personally, I think the family with children should get first dibs of accommodation - Christmas is about littlies surely? Family without children can have a lovely relaxed start to the day. A solution which makes everyone happy is going to be very hard but I suspect just acknowledging your feelings would make you feel better. I agree that splitting Christmas would keep everyone happier and give you the family time you deserve. We do Christmas with one set of parents then the two days after at the others then some time at ours. We rotate this so that one year we are here then the next we are at DH's parents and so on. The only issue with that is my parents can't ever come to us as they need to stay at home for my granny. Despite my mum being one of 5 she is still the only one who thinks of my granny so mum and dad never get away. I say this only because it reminds me of you - always thinking of keeping others happy.

Lovely to see you kyz!! Your weight loss is very impressive. I love a wee home made tomato soup. I also was a fan of the tiger song! Tonight she asked for one about monkeys and I was totally stuck. I started singing "monkeys go ooo ooo" then realised she was signing her own song about doggies so I left her to it.

Good luck to all the med reducers. It does make a big difference not having that to think about actually. It seems strange as it is a small thing really but when it is gone it does feel like another wee burden has been removed. I remember when P went from 3 doses of ranitidine a day to 2 it was like a massive weight - no more waking her for meds so early nights all round!

I do think that batch cooking is the way forward gt. We have a freezer full of things like fish pie, cottage pie, chilli and so on. I also do meat balls and soup and such like. For lunch DH and I simply grab a container of soup and some fruit and I take something out which defrosts by the time we are home at 6pm. Occasionally p eats her own dinner (too tired to wait or one of us will be very late) and for that I use fish fingers, omlette etc. Even if you have a couple of meals pre-made for the week it feels better. I do get that I am speaking as the parent of 1 not 2! Good luck for the lessons tomorrow.

Watching a documentary of old men talking about the war - there are few things more likely to set me off than proud old men weeping.

Wanda - could it be that your stepmums "kids" couldn't afford a hotel, and they think you could, so this way, they get to see everyone?

I get what a biggie it is for you, btw. I would dearly love a Christmas at my parents, but because of reasons outside my control (to do with dsd) it is unlikely to happen soon - so if it all came together, only for someone to chuck a spanner in the works, I would be

Well done on weight loss, Kyz.
And good to hear of productive days and relaxing evenings too. Am off to revise. Tomorrow night I'm out to bingo though

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I wondered that as well bp. I remember a few years ago my sil and her husband suddenly decided they would stay with my mil and FIL for some dubious reason. The actual reason was that they were trying to save a few quid and weren't honest about it. They were after the fact