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December 2008 - Summertime and the children are easy......

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sybsie · 01/06/2014 14:29

Ha ha ha ha....we wish!

Here's to a lovely relaxing summer and cheery new thread for us all.

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ShadyLadyT · 26/06/2014 23:07

Hello dear ladies. I have had a busy few days but it's all been nice treaty stuff, which makes a change as things have been a bit of a grind recently. We went to the Blenheim Flower Show on Sat, then a very cute village fete on Sunday which was straight out of The Vicar of Dibley. Monday was supposed to be a worky meeting in London, which has been postponed so I just had a quick night out, came home then went off on a spa break on Tuesday morning and then shopping in Bath on the way home yest. But once DP starts his new job in a couple of weeks I will have no time off and no treats, and also it reminded him that keeping the show on the road with the girls is hard, and he didn't do any of the tons of things I do alongside looking after them Grin

Poor, poor you, Arti. No wonder you feel strung out. I think the current arrangement is not sustainable if it is making you so unhappy, but maybe it could be made more bearable with tweaking? I think you need to look at all of the elements in your life and check whether they are GENUINELY unmovable. You say you cannot reduce hours at work (let's leave the financial element aside for a mo) - are you sure? Have you asked? Begged? Told them it's not working? Explained that they are in danger of losing you for good? Can you come up with some sort of solution that would be acceptable to them? Your current hours are extremely punishing for someone with small children.

You say you couldn't afford to cut your hours anyway - is there anything you and DH can economise on or any wiggle room with the current mortgage (go interest only for two or three years on all or part of it? It won't make much difference to the mortgage itself, you can catch up later, but could make a fantastic difference to what you pay. I did this with my flat in London in 2010. I am shortly to return to a full repayment mortgage, but it's meant that for a few years my monthly contributions were about a third less). Then the extra cash could cope with a reduction in hours if work allowed you, or to get people in to help with the jobs like you used to.

Why not get the rental value of your house assessed just to see if letting it and moving to a smaller place in the area is actually a goer. That way, it's temporary and you still get to hang on to your lovely house. I think it's all about testing the water, making small changes if you can and seeing how you feel rather than massive irreversible ones.

I do think you would find life outside London a bit of a culture shock, and I say that as one who is fairly happy here now. I would still prefer to be in town but there are lots of things I enjoy about round here and I have a good support network - and I do accept that schools-wise we are better off than we would be if we lived (say) where my flat is in London, and the green space for the girls is lovely (though I am a massive fan of London parks). Moving away from a swathe of London friends could be isolating, even though you would make other good friends in time.

As for the whole SAHM thing (and I have loved reading people's thoughts on this, girls, so thnks for sharing) as you know I am basically a SAHM with frills Grin I am at home with the girls, but still do bits of writing and journalism and freelance editing and other similar projects for which I get a bit of dough and kudos, as well as chairing pre-school, running the cricket team and all the other things that eat my time. I just about keep my hand in and keep my ego happy with the work I do (though it is the minimum and I would like to do more), but yet get to be with the girls. However - I don't do quite enough work to be satisfying or particularly lucrative and this frustrates me at times. On the other hand, if it comes to it I have, and do, and will choose being with the girls. Whilst I recognise this, I do feel that I have sacrificed an interesting and potentially rather successful career. However, I know that as a mother whatever one does will be served with a massive great slice of 'What If' pie, a side order or frustration and if you're extra unlucky a sprinkling of guilt. As Vag has said, being a SAHM ( a privilege in many ways and a yoke in others) is no panacea. Nor even is being part time (which may be the best of the bunch). I think you need to get away with DH for a weekend, examine every element and thrash it all out.

Beans, I know your ES has the most dreadful probs with her DH but truly, her self indulgence knows no bounds! It sounds massively annoying and upsetting but at least you and your other sister were there to support your Mum. I hope it didn't wreck it for you totally. I think just ignore her for a while until your irritation has receded. I think having it out with her would just lead to more ghastly and annoying scenes.

Rubes, are you settling in a bit more? How is everything? I cannot believe how sporty your DS's school sounds, it's still with pond-dipping and nature activities etc around here...When do the kids break up and how long is this block where you are working a lot?

DB, it's lovely to see you back and it gives me a huge amount of pleasure that your DS is prospering at school. I never doubted he would but it is still wonderful to hear.

Hons, I think your girls' routine is like mine (they share a room, go to bed at the same time). But mine go to bed at 8. They have to be woken every morning but if I try sending them to bed earlier they mess around and don't sleep and also we struggle to get everything done.

Right, you must all be sick of my voice and I am knackered so I am taking myself off to bed!

ShadyLadyT · 26/06/2014 23:53

Ok, I still haven't turned off the light Grin Arti, I was thinking you could do with a greater range of perspectives from people who work outside the house more (Invis, Hons, I know you have chipped in) - Summer, JJ, Spot, Kiwi, PD etc etc etc. Where are you, girls?

Indith, I meant to say I am sorry your sister is getting up your nostrils. What is the age diff between you? What does she do?

DP is away now and I ended up eating a whole quiche for supper. Admittedly I very rarely do stuff like this but I really hate myself now. I didn't mean to eat all that! WOE.

Mckayz · 27/06/2014 07:04

Indith deleted me Sad

Shady, you are pregnant, you are allowed to eat a whole quiche once in a while!!

Beans, I am so sorry your sister is such an idiot. I understand she is upset but that is no way to behave.

If my children get up before 6am once more I might send them to Outer Mongolia. I am knackered.

We got DS1's final diagnosis on Monday. He does not have ADHD, which is great. They think that he just likes to know what is going on so was out of sorts before xmas as everything was different at school. Very happy.

ShadyLadyT · 27/06/2014 07:10

That is really fantastic news, Kayz. What a relief for you. And do you feel he's all settled down now?

Oh, and I didn't mean not to mention other outside workers above, like Sybs, ZJ and others!

Mckayz · 27/06/2014 07:20

Yeah he has settled down a lot. I am a bit worried about him moving to Junior school in September and the change but hopefully he will be ok.

MontserratCaballe · 27/06/2014 10:25

Great news, Kayz!

My lot are SO whiney right now. Never Matthew, who is the most good natured soul, but the girls are incessant. I was trying to chat to a school friend this morning with DD2 pulling at my hand so I shouted "Stop bloody whining! You have been on at me since 6am and I am sick of it" at her. Room went silent. Oops Shock. Potty mouth mother.

IAmDeids · 27/06/2014 16:46

I lost the mums race at Sports DayBlushGrin. Can't quite believe I entered. But I ran almost 5 mile this morning so will blame it on fatigue! Have hurt my hip in the process though. Sprinting from a cold start not good!!

Kayz good news re DS1.

Sybs my two can be VERY whinny. Especially DD. It can really grate at times.

Arti how are you my love? I hope you can find some time this weekend to sit down with DH and maybe start making some pro/con lists

Beans I'm so sorry your sister ruined things for you. Especially your mum. Totally selfish of her. Unfortunately we can't choose our family. I should hope she apologises unreservedly to all of you at some point!

beans37 · 27/06/2014 19:05

Deids, the sad thing is, she's so thick skinned she won't have even noticed the frostiness! ho hum.

bad luck you didn't win the race, but at least you can blame it on fatigue. I'd have to blame mine on butter, I think.

DDs having movie night. I forced them into Despicable Me 2 as I couldn't face Frozen again. I love it, but not that much. hoping DH will be back soon and can deal with bedtime. hee hee. sneaky. it's my birthday tomorrow. hoping for a bit of a lie in.

Indith · 27/06/2014 21:22

Blush kayz

I just go through phases of "I don't even know who this person is anyway. !" and hitting the big red button. Very therapeutic but does sometimes have unfortunate consequences.

Mckayz · 28/06/2014 06:34

I do it too Indith. I deleted someone who never posts anything a few weeks ago and got a snotty message from them.

Vagolajahooli · 28/06/2014 08:39

Beans I'm sorry about your sister. She has taken a moment from your mother which she can never have again and then ruined the last special time she had to do something for her life partner. I know it won't make up for it but could you & your other sister maybe meet up with your mum and just have a nice relaxed dinner together and maybe talk about some memories you have of your dad and see if you can get your mum to talk about her memories of him, in particular before they had kids. Might be nice to hear. Maybe take some old photos along too.

I feel really bad I'm not sure if Indith has deleted me or not. Well if you have Indith shall we just leave it as we chat on here.

Kayz I'm pleased to hear about DS1. Sounds like normal behaviour to me all kids get a bit worked up if they feel a bit out of control. He also has to deal with his lovely step dad going away a lot and his own dad being abituseless not around. If you ask me I think he is doing quite well. Why is it when boys express themselves everyone wants to label them? I feel very strongly that ADHD exists and it is quite debilitating for families dealing with it. But there is also normal child behaviour.

hey I got two distinctions for last term yay.

Sybs if I'd heard you I'd have thought oh thank god it's not just me.

oh gotta go swimming is finished. Will try to respond more later.

oh and hi Deids I forgot to say hello last time. We don't have a mums race (the boys schools sports day mostly consists of bouncy castles and chucking stuff), but I used to compete in the staff race at the special school I worked at. We competed against another school and it was a hotly contested race but Nursey from Beatrice tate always came through. Once I tied equal 1st but im sure they got a ring in from some athletic club.

beans39 · 28/06/2014 11:46

39 today.
Vag, I think that's a great idea about a dinner.. will arrange it soon.
sybs, I think I may have been caught muttering to DD1 under my breath "fucking hurry up". I hasten to add, it was so under my breath that DD1 couldn't hear!!!

look at my new nickname. yup, it's my birthday. this is the first birthday ever I haven't even felt remotely excited. weep.

ShadyLadyT · 28/06/2014 14:42

Many happy returns, young Beans! Get yourself a big treat. And have a lovely day.

MeetTheElements · 28/06/2014 20:20

Happy birthday beans!

I have finished playing at being a nurse. Back to uni on Monday. Need a holiday.

ElephantsAreMostlyMadeOfFourElements · 28/06/2014 20:34

Or maybe this dress is better?

I like this one ElephantsAreMadeofElements was already taken

ElephantsAreMostlyMadeOfFourEl · 29/06/2014 07:18

Ah a night of vomit.

Vagolajahooli · 29/06/2014 16:11

they might be giants!

IAmAPaleontologist · 29/06/2014 16:40

Yup. It is the best CD in the world.

I am quite sad that the other name is too long. I didn't realise when I picked it.

beans39 · 29/06/2014 19:14

DD3 has started crawling. my life will never be so easy again. and it wasn't that easy in the first place!!!

but she's very pleased.

JustRubes · 29/06/2014 21:27

Death by hay fever here....

Hope u had a lovely bday beans. Oh dear that era of plonk baby in the corner and she can't get into
Too much trouble is over! Time goes frighteningly fast.
Have finally had a day to tackle things one room / project at a time and feel like we're going in circles.
Dh so far behind with work he's getting properly stressed.
But I have tomorrow for admin etc with dd at nursery.

beans39 · 30/06/2014 21:10

Where is everyone?
I'm recovering from my birthday. was rather rubbish. I hope yours is better, Arti?? happy birthday.
am going to bed in a min. lovely.
I need tips on contraception. my pill is not working for me. no libido, random heavy bleeds etc. I am not good at the coil and DH won't have the snip and I hate condoms. what to do. all tips gratefully received xx

Mckayz · 30/06/2014 21:43

Beans, I'm getting the implant in a few weeks. Hoping it'll be ok.

IAmDeids · 30/06/2014 21:50

Was just going to suggest the implant! Never tried personally but my friend swears by it!

Rubes how's the hay fever? I've had DD back to the GP. Poor girl has really been struggling. Tablets everyday and eye drops x4. It doesn't cure it but is slightly relieving her symptoms! When I was younger I really suffered but the older I've become the less I suffer. I hope she's the same.

Speaking of DD. She is doing impressions at her school talent show on Weds night. She is the only 'solo act'. Everyone else is in groups singing songs from Frozen or dancing. I can't believe she's actually going to do it. I would have been terrified at her age. Her Cheryl Cole impression is pricelessGrin

JustRubes · 30/06/2014 21:56

Why rubbish beans? Could be worse. Mines 4-0 this year [sigh]
Back from play date with ds friend. A girl even. Quite glad he's stopped the "no girls allowed" phase. For now. Back to the fridge gone kaput. All food removed to fridge and freezer in garage. The joys of renting. I shall request a new fridge in the morn.
Beans what's dh reason for no snip? Thought there were no more minors on the cards? Copper Coil has been gruelling but I think now starting to pay off. Maybe try copper and give longer?

IAmAPaleontologist · 30/06/2014 22:00

depo? In general with that you get some random spotting and irregular bleeding the first month or two but it settles and then you get no period at all. down side is that if you want more children Wink then it can take a long time after stopping for cycles to resume. You get the jab every 11 weeks but there is a fair bit of security built in and it is effective for a good bit longer than 11 weeks.

Or as kayz says there is the implant. Though a little less easy to try out and stop if it doesn't work for you.

I'm a fine one to talk given my hated of hormonal contraception for myself but they ate all different and you can be loopy on one but fine on another.

Could also get sterilised yourself? methods like essure are now offered by some nhs trusts and it goes through the cervix rather than involving making any incisions.

uni started today. Going to be bloody busy this July, manic workload. Going to enjoy my evidence and research module though I think and we are going to be getting into all the obstetric emergencies, mal presentations and stuff.