June 2013 Commando crawlers vs Baby slugs

[SunnyL]

Hi all - the old thread was about to run out so I started a new one.

Little Miss was up to mischief last night. Thankfully it's DHs day off today so he took her into bed with him while I slept in the spare room. She is just so excitable when she wakes up at night. It can can 90 minutes to scrape her off the ceiling.

Sunny, he does 3 days in nursery and one with OH parents, I am off Monday and OH Saturday so it works quite well. Nursery is great he seems happy and the staff are really nice. We have a diary each day with food, nappy changes and what activities he has been up to. I love reading it each night. Feel really pleased as they commented on how well he eats and that he loves fruit and most little ones don't.
Anyone got any ideas for getting him to sit in the bath? He insists on standing holding the rail, he enjoys his bath and will bend down to splash but won't sit! He has also taken to standing on one leg and hopping from foot to foot, I am going grey quickly

Re baths I have no flipping idea. I've stopped filling it so full as its a waste of water if the only bit that gets wet is her ankles .

Sitting in baths? Never let it be said! :o M mostly stands up in the bath, occasionally wees in it much to the hysterical laughter of the other 2 (who are always in there with him...). Not found anything to get him to sit down yet, other than showing him how to splash. Not our finest move, that :o

Curly, glad Osk is settling down with nursery etc. How are you finding work?

M has slept (or stayed happily in bed, at any rate) till about 7 or 7.15 for the last few days, which is when he needs to be up and about anyway for getting out the door on time for the school run. My alarm goes off at 6.45, but I mostly ignore it for the first 15 or 20 minutes. Although ignoring 2 bigger kids climbing in bed with you can be more of a challenge! We have black out curtains which work pretty well, but not blinds.

DD is still using her fisher price bath, and we lean her back in it so no chance of standing up - she loves kicking her legs in it and splashing. We've definitely had our money's worth out of that.

We used a blackout blind when she was in our room and that was great, but we got blackout curtains for her nursery - much easier (and they're a pretty pink and white, whereas the blind was black).

We put ds on his back in the bath, in a few inches of water (basically up to his armpit when he's lying down). He adores it and spends 15mins splashing, squealing and kicking and soaking the bathroom

I'm taking not on all these tips for blackout curtains etc... Ready for when we eventually get our own space and I can hope fully decorate dds room. (Wasn't allowed to at the old house, landlord very strict about his jasmine white colour scheme!!)

Dd wakes some were between 7.30 and 8. This very much depends on bedtime and night feeds.
She still feeds loads over night, well feels like it. Certainly more than during the day.

Ladies what are you all doing for birthdays?! I had originally wanted to do a BBQ style thing, but now I don't have any where to do a BBQ, and have a back up of indoors if weather turned nasty.
Not really being settled makes it hard too. I don't really want to do anything major, it really will only be a few friends and family. not even her dad can make it I'm probably way over thinking it, but don't want to not do anything just because everything's up in the air....

Pink we're doing 2 parties. We're doing a joint one with our NCT group. I've rented a bbq spot at one of our local country parks. Its 12quid for the day and means one of us doesn't have to host and deal with all the cleaning up. It's going to be a teddy bears picnic - very twee .

For lil on her own we're just hosting a bbq at our house. if it rains we'll stick gazebos up. Can't decide whether to make it an open invite to the neighbours or not as we'll not have enough space inside if it does rain.

We're having a small family party at our house. Our families live at least a few hours away but nowhere near each other so it'll be lovely for them to get together (we've been together for around 15 years and our families have only met a couple of times, once being our wedding!). It'll be lovely if it's sunny as we'll be able to go out into the garden, but we're planning an indoor party just in case. It'll be on a weekend as people will need to travel. On the actual day, DH has booked the day off work so we might go to the zoo.

I'm sure it'll be lovely, whatever you do.

We have no plans at all. Not really got any idea either :-/

I'll think about it after we've moved next weekend as I suppose I should get invitations sent.

You're moving house Hungry? Gawd. Good luck! I hope it goes smoothly.

We've not really given much thought to the first birthday (other than a joint party with my antenatal group). We'd like to do something as a family though, and also with a few friends and grandparents. But we're challenged by the fact that my parents don't speak to each other, and haven't been in the same room as each other for over ten years. But both would like to celebrate with us. Sigh. We'll think of something!

Now, those of you who have babies who sleep (more or less) through the night: did you do anything to make that happen? Or did your babies just sort themselves out? Do we need to consider some sort of sleep training at some point?

Yes. Again. I moved at 21 weeks last time, I'll be 27 this time. Sigh. The joy of landlords selling up! :-/

That does sound awkward, Hedgehogy. My family is difficult as they're 170 miles away, so whatever we choose to do will probably have to happen without (most of) them. I like the BBQ idea though.

DD just sorted herself out, like she has with most things. She does still need a mostly asleep bottle at about 10pm, but that's fine. She also squawks / cries in her sleep, which wakes us up. Not much we can do about that though!

We didn't do anything, Mrs81. She feeds a lot during the day though. Sorry, probably not the answer you're looking for...

Hungry, that's what pushed us to buy in the end (many years back though - it's obviously much harder now). What a pain for you.

DD sometimes cries in her sleep too, usually just for a few seconds though. She does it during the day when she's asleep on me - her face looks so sad, as though she's really upset!

Ah, I meant Mrs in my last message!

And yes, DD looks really sad too. Apparently they have bad dreams, which I hate the thought of for her :-(

Though DD does it if she's lost her cuddly mouse as well. Poor thing!

Sadly we aren't in a position to buy right now. But we are moving somewhere owned by a friend, so can stay as long as we like, which is helpful.

That's the next best thing Hungry, at least you'll have some security now.

Ahh at your DD losing her cuddly mouse!

I'd love to know what they dream about. DD probably just dreams about my boobs (i.e. that she's feeding), and in her bad dreams she's not able to have any.

Hoping dd sorts her sleep out eventually. My boss was very gloaty about how well his two have always slept, right from the off I wouldn't have minded if he hadn't included some other digs before that. Was so nice to be back at work, felt like I had never been away apart from that it was fine. and he's a knob, so I ignore most of what comes out of his mouth anyways

Have just watched frozen with dd, mostly what a beautiful film. Disney done good.

So on the birthday front, after a few tears this afternoon, I have decided to do something small, with really close people, who aren't going to mind where I have it, or what essentially I do. But will make it special for dd so when she looks back she can see we did something for her, despite everything being up in the air. I, for some reason, feel that is really important.
Can't believe this time last year I was coming to terms with her dad missing the birth and not being around, and now it's all happening again, but that this time he has actually chosen the situation. It's the last 'first' for her he ruins.

She's full of cold today, and has really struggled with everything hoping she sleeps a bit better and wakes more settled. Hate seeing her like it and not being able to help. They know how to tug the heart strings don't they!!

Glad you get to not worry about landlord faff at the next place Hungry

Actually, hearing that your LOs sorted themselves out at night does help. Deep down, I think that's what DS will do too but I'm just not sure if I can stomach many more weeks/months of multiple wakenings & feeds. I worry that I'd be sleep training for my benefit, rather than DS's. I'll see how things go once the current snot and teething patch has buggered off.

Oh pink, I'm so sorry you're going though this .

That makes sense actually, Mrs. I'm sure he will eventually. I'm hoping that DD will sort out her daytime naps herself (she will only sleep on me!).

We didn't do anything to make her sleep. Well apart from have a bedtime routine, and never to co sleep or basically have her sleep anywhere other than her cot. I don't jump up to get her when she wakes as often she will go back for another sleep cycle. I do think that they just sort themselves out eventually. I think sleep training may push them there quicker though?

Birthday. DH has five sisters, with five husbands, and 11 nieces and nephews. So a small family gathering is 25 people if just his lot and my mum. It puts me off doing anything.

Pink how come the knobber is missing her birthday? Glad you enjoying work. I have really appreciated doing non child things and imagine that's good for you as well at the moment.

Pink he is a shitty McShitter but it sounds like T has more than enough love coming from you.

Mrs - just to rock the boat I actually did something to stop the night time feeds. Just over a month ago I switched off the monitor and shut the bedroom door. We can hear if she cries but not the mumping and grumping. Since then she's slept through every night. I think we were just going too early and she was possibly just crying in her sleep.

Good luck with what you choose to do.

xpost with Pinkbear. There are no words, other than I'm sorry and angry for you and your DD. I hope the birthday can be a celebration regardless - it is one and one that you have completely earned xx

Re sleep: yes, I try not to gp through too quickly. Usually by the time I've staggered to his door it will be clear which way he's going to go.
He has a fair lot of food (solids and milk) by day but does seem to really need at least one feed overnight still. The telling sign for me is if dh tries (and fails) to settle him. That and the great gulps of milk that he guzzles!

Night all x

Pink, your ex is clearly a fool who can't tell when he's got it good and in the long run DD will know this and choose herself to have nothing to do with him, I imagine. Even young children pick up on reluctant parenting, more than the reluctant parent realises mostly too.

I'd forgotten that we did some night weaning with DD. If she cried overnight, where we had been giving a bottle, we would give 60ml water instead, which she'd drink and go back to sleep. If that didn't get her to sleep, we would give her 60ml milk instead, so a little snack. This also got her back to sleep. After a week or so of this she stopped waking overnight for either. I know she'd have had a full bottle if we'd given it though.

I'm not sure if Aloha (was it E who hates a wet nappy?) still has the wet nappy issue as DD will not sleep with a big wet nappy, so from about 5am there's sometimes a quick change needed there. DD drinks loads of water so wees bloody loads too!

Same as with bean, we do have a bedtime routine, have never co-slept and she only sleeps in her cot at night. DH used to turn the sheep on at the slightest peep from her but we've discovered that she does usually get herself back off to sleep if she stirs (and if not, sheep works magic).

Great night last night, not a peep until she turned the sheep music on herself this morning and kept pressing the button!

We're lucky as DD doesn't mind a wet (or dirty!) nappy. She has never minded, and has never cried because of them. She wees loads too as she drinks lots throughout the day - lots of big nappies. Strange. She did wake up to poo for the first couple of weeks when we started weaning but thankfully that soon stopped.

DS doesn't mind a wet nappy either, thankfully. He can have 4-6hrs sleep before squawking for milk. He refuses bottles (has done for months and months) so the water trick won't work here.

Last night wasn't too bad for us: asleep by 7, fed at 11.30 & 3.30, awake at 6.30.

Maybe as he gets bigger, he'll drop a night feed... He's only 17lbs something this now...

Would he take water from a sippy cup, Mrs? That may work.

Seems DD is precious about a wet nappy then! It's hilarious how big they get, talk about football bum!

We don't have a bedtime routine, have never co slept and DD sleeps only in her cot too. I get about 15-30 mins with her when I get home from work before she goes to bed, so that's cuddle and bottle time (before she starts kicking the bump and gets moved onto daddy!).

It was funny last night as DH told her to wave to me before taking her to bed (I struggle to lean far enough with the cot on its lowest setting and a baby bump!) and she did. First time she's properly obeyed the command. :-)