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DECEMBER 2012: Please babies sleep, before you turn 1!

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halestone · 02/11/2013 15:29

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halestone · 27/11/2013 21:07

Maryland i feel ok, but i've stayed at home since i got back on monday so haven't been in loud situations. I'm feeling better now i've told DP how i was feeling and that he is giving me support without judging me. I keep telling him i feel like a failure and he assures me i'm not. I'm glad he recognised something was wrong as well made me realise i'm lucky to have him. I'm not sure what the Dr will say tbh but i guess trying to get help now will stop it becoming worse which i slowly has. Sorry about the long winded me me me answer.

Spotty i wouldn't be happy either, i bet your DP is slightly embarrassed and upset as well though.

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halestone · 27/11/2013 21:11

WL i went to see Jimmy Carr and he was hilarious but he's very close to the knuckle with his jokes. So i can see why some people wouldn't want to see him.

Lazza, at least now they've identified a problem with DD1's sleep they'll be able to put together a treatment plan for her. My younger sister had Sleep Apnoea and had to wear a mask to bed. After having some type of ENT surgery, (i'm not sure what type) she no longer needed the mask.

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lazzaroo · 27/11/2013 21:22

hales, the whole thing has come about because of her enlarged tonsils. They are so reluctant to remove them these days but I guess they might now. Keen to get it resolved before she starts school next year. Also wanted to say, that I'm glad you are able to off load on here. You shouldn't apologise. I had moments where I really struggled with dd1. It's so hard to admit when it feels like everyone else as everything under control. That's how I felt anyway. No-one ever wants to be the first to admit how bloody hard life can be...but the first person who does usually opens the floodgates (if that makes sense!) Your DP sounds lovely & I hope you feel better about things soon.

halestone · 27/11/2013 21:32

Lazza thats exactly how i feel, its like why can't i cope when so many other people do? Why am i struggling? When my sister who wasn't maternal in the slightest has coped fine and i was the one who always wanted children and i can't seem to manage. I just feel embarrassed to be the person who can't cope when so many other people can. I also think thats one of the things that stops me going out. I don't want to see how well other people are doing while i feel like i'm failing so badly at it.

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WLmum · 27/11/2013 21:50

Ah hales my theory is its because it matters more to you - as in because you always wanted children you want to be the best mummy in the world and set incredibly (impossibly) high standards for yourself whereas those who were less fussed accept a lower of achievement (in feelings as well as actions). Upshot is you're much better at it than you think you are!

Re jimmy Carr, its not that he's near the knuckle but I wonder if he/his style has become a bit predictable.

Poor dd lazza.

ddas · 27/11/2013 22:51

hales like you said Dp saw something was wrong but other people didn't.
Lots of people that look like they are coping on the outside probably have a lot of the same fears and low that we all have. Think the phrase is Be like a duck. Calm on the surface, but always paddling like the dickens underneath.
I've had a lot of people say to me that I look like I'm coping amazingly well with 2 etc and don't know how I juggle a demanding job, home and the kids but the truth is that this morning ds was being really difficult with the terrible 2's, dd was being her normal clingy self making it difficult to sort out ds and I was so close to just crying thinking why did I ever do this to myself!! Then we managed to get out and a few hours later things felt better. People just don't see those bits. Truth is that work is what keeps me sane!! Part time is the best option for me though as think it was wlmum that said kids give you the most amazing highs but also lows- the highs def outweigh the lows and things will be easier as they get older.

ddas · 27/11/2013 22:54

& hales you sound like you're doing a great job!
Someone told me recently about this book:

online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970204740904577196931457473816

We clearly all feel like we do as we care so much and such a pressure to be perfect but like article says in some countries also emphasis on not forgetting that you have needs too.

WillYouDoTheFandango · 28/11/2013 03:59

Ugh yet another leak, despite being changed at 10:30. I'm losing my fucking patience now. I have no idea what to get next.j feel shit that every time I try something new J ends up spending yet another night soaked through. Confused

WillYouDoTheFandango · 28/11/2013 05:07

2 hours FFS! I'm rapidly losing it. WTF do I do? He's knackered but he just won't sleep. He just wants to play, he keeps laughing and u cannot hack it.

WillYouDoTheFandango · 28/11/2013 05:16

Oh he's gone thank god. I was ready to wake DP and tell him to deal with him. I cannot keep getting by on 3 hours sleep and then have DS up playing for hours. My patience is too thin.

ddas · 28/11/2013 06:00

That's so frustrating! We've always used Sainsburys nappies and been happy with them. Disliked pampers & Huggies. But sounds like you've tried quite a few now.
Does it ever seem to be due to the position his willy is in ie are bigger nappies letting it move around like when they are newborns and if it ever looks up it'll leak at the top of the nappy.

SpottyTeacakes · 28/11/2013 07:46

What about using a reusable at night? Or are they not as absorbent?

Ds just woke up and dd is still asleep. Ds woke crying a few times in the night though which isn't like him.

Hoping to go and see my friend and her new baby today. I think I need to tell her I have a cold though and see if she still wants us...

Barbeasty · 28/11/2013 07:48

willyou I hope you're asleep now!

A didn't go to sleep last night until 9.45. I'd think he'd dropped off and that I could think about putting him in the cot, and his eyes would snap open and he'd grin/ giggle. He was out of the cot and into bed by 10.30.

Got to decide between finishing the cooking or doing cleaning. I guess I should clean then mess it up making cookies

Hope everyone is getting better.

And WL I agree about the standards we impose on ourselves.

WillYouDoTheFandango · 28/11/2013 08:14

I've had 1,5h and I've got a docs appt so have had to get up. J still snoring away. He woke just after last message so I have him to DP and had a little sob. He got him back to sleep then put him next to me in bed. He told me to wake him sooner if it happens again but the poor man starts work at 6.

Have tried both asda and pampers in 4 and 4+.

POA is to buy active fit in both pampers and asda ignores mounting pile of nappies. Or would you try another brand entirely?

Does anyone know if you can still get the waterproof covers that go over a reusable? I thought about buying one of those until I find a non leaky nappy to prevent J getting soaked head to toe.

Roll on nap time!

WLmum · 28/11/2013 08:40

Poor you willyou. I think mothercare and maybe even tesco stock the old style waterproof covers.
A bad night here again with poor dd2 - she was up being sick a couple of times in the night and again this morning too. She's barely drunk anything in the last 2 days and now she's bringing it up. Last time this happened we had a 2 night stay in hospital.

Barbeasty · 28/11/2013 08:49

WillYou we get on well with Naty nappies (I hope I don't regret saying that!)

If you struggle to find a cover then let me know- I've got lots that I had from DD and could post you one.

MrsNutella · 28/11/2013 08:52

Willyou we use cloth nappies at night, I highly recommend a two part system, which is a big fluffy nappy with a waterproof wrap over it. You can also use fleece or wool longies (like little pants or trousers) over them but I prefer the certainty of the waterproof cover.
I use a size 2 little lamb bamboo nappy with a mother ease airflow wrap. The nappy has a Velcro closure and the the wrap is buttons. Since he has been in cloth we have never had a nighttime leak. We get occasional day time leaks of wee (mostly when he has suddenly changed shape and I need to adjust the leg sizes on some nappies) but they do a great job of catching all poo!
Anyway, they can often be picked up pretty cheap pre loved too.

DS only woke for one bottle again last night... Very excited! Hope he sticks with it! Although it took two hours to get him to go to sleep and stay asleep at bedtime last night Confused

MrsNutella · 28/11/2013 08:54

Oh dear wl not another poorly LO! There are a lot of poorly wee ones at the mo. I hope she recovers quickly and it isn't too stressful for you.

DS seems much better but he still produces big strings of yellow goo when he sneezes, poor love. I think his nose is getting sore too Sad I wiped it earlier and he cried.

PurplePidjin · 28/11/2013 09:06

www.thenappylady.co.uk/nappy-wraps.html

PUL is breathable, with soft covered elastic on the legs for containment. Fleece shorts, trousers or sleepsuit (depending what you've got or how handy you are with a needle if you don't want to buy!) are brilliant, but we love our woollies - they get soaked in lansinoh every couple of months, that's all the washing needed :o you can get rubber pants in Boots but i wouldn't bother, not with so many better products available

My bamboo fitteds do 12+ hours over night (we have a change every night at the moment but that's for poo!) and i change every 3-4 hours during the day. Which is about the same as my disposable using friends

www.thenappylady.co.uk/shaped-sized-nappies/little-lamb-bamboo.html

^ a very good deal, although bamboo takes a while (15 washes) to get to full absorbency so preloved are often better. I have 8 night nappies, and wash every 3rd day but we're in cloth ft.

PS i found R slept better once i got the nappies right. He's appalling in sposies, not great in a manmade cover, loves his wool...

SpottyTeacakes · 28/11/2013 09:16

Oh no WL Sad would she tolerate an ice lolly?

Ds has just coughed so much he was sick and has a slight temp (37.8). I've given calpol and put him to bed Sad

WLmum · 28/11/2013 11:05

Touch wood she's tolerating 5mls of water every 15 mins and hasn't been sick for 3 hours. Have despatched T to my mums so I can sit quietly with her.
Hope ds is ok spotty.
Am supposed to be on a fast day but actually today I will mostly be eating wonka bars - fellow chocaholics check them out!

WillYouDoTheFandango · 28/11/2013 11:21

Fingers crossed there's no more sick WL.

J is at my mums. for the second week running she had to bring me money in asda as I forgot my purse Blush She insisted on taking him so I'm in bed. I also put my contraceptive pills (collected from pharmacy) in J's bag, which I've sent with my dad. I know it shouldn't be embarrassing as I have a baby, but it so is!

I don't really understand disposable nappies. Thick question do I need to buy inserts for them? I'm really stupid when I've had no sleep. Can you just tell me exactly what I'd need? Is it the bamboo link you sent under the wrap link you sent? Then do I need anything else?

[brain dead emoticon]

WLmum · 28/11/2013 12:05

willyou it depends on the kind you buy - I'm afraid it's not quite so simple. With dd1 for nights I had tots bots bamboo with an extra insert, and mother ease rikki wrap. They were great but I swapped to a disposable for nights (cloth for day) with dd2&3 for speed/ease/laundry

Stacks · 28/11/2013 12:20

WillYou we use the same as Nutella, the little lamb bamboo nappy (linked by Pidg) and the motherease wraps (first one on the wraps linked by Pidg). We have 5 nappies and 4 wraps, and I wash every 2 days (and don't have a tumble dryer). At a minimum I'd say you want 3 nappies and one wrap.

Stacks · 28/11/2013 12:24

Or you can get this pack, which I used to use for DS in the size 1. There's basically no difference in the bamboo nappies, though I do prefer the motherease wraps.

www.teamlollipop.co.uk/bamboo-nappies/lollipop-bamboo-nappy-mini-pack.html