November 2012 - The first fearless steps and the rest of us hoping our babies remain stationary for a bit longer

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1833979-November-2012-Teeth-Dont-talk-to-us-about-teeth

How long you off work for pig? That pain sounds horrific

Ginger forgot to say earlier..totally agree about testing boundaries etc at this age, they are cleverer than we give them credit for. We have the standing up in the cot gobbing off shouting malarkey at the moment tis great !

Poor Bplp
I've been on mumsnet about 3 years now and been embarrassed to ask before ....but what does tumbleweed mean ?

I'm at breaking point here and trying to implement some kind of bedtime routine for my sanity. I need time to relax in the evenings and I need sleep at night. I started last night when DP was at work. Got C changed, turned off the lights and he sat still on my lap for a while. Then took him upstairs, gave him a final feed and lay him down in his cot. It took about twenty minutes but he finally settled and went to sleep on his own. A first. I tried to continue it tonight when DP is home. Took C upstairs and put him in his cot. After around ten minutes he's not asleep but I decide to persevere. At this point DP enters the room, asks C to come to him and takes him downstairs. What the actual fuck? Why is he undermining me like this? Now C is sitting downstairs with us, playing with the lights on. I've told DP he can get him to sleep tonight and he's on night duty too. He can't understand why I'm so fucking angry

Oh dear apple - sounds really tough. Have you explained to dp why you were trying to sort out the sleep? DH would do that sort of thing with F, thinking he was helping me out by stopping her crying, unless I spelt it out to him.

Donna tumbleweed is the balls of grass stuff that you see spinning across the scene in a Western film...implies quietness ie. where the fuck were you all hiding?!

apple did you take an appt with the gp?

pig sorry to hear you're in pain

chasing missing a dose according to Dr Google is not great. The pills have a life of 36 hours, whatever that means. Depending on brand I guess.

Dr Pig???

DD1 is in the playpen, demanding a nappy, dummy and bottle. We're being babies tonight :)

I just tried explaining to him and told him I can't do this much longer - waking up at all hours in the night then getting up early for work. I didn't get much of a response. C has fallen asleep on his lap and he's taken him up to his cot. Exactly how I didn't want to do it.

Poor you bp and sympathy.

I think, pass you should tell the CM P was distraught last night without her rabbit and you must have it back.

Tired today.

Grrrrrr apple I feel really pissed off for you.

You called?!

In my dhs experience, as the pills take weeks to have an effect, reducing the dose or stopping them takes weeks to have a negative effect. So missing one dose is unlikely to make more than a placebo difference. Although of course with depression or anxiety, the psychological aspect of taking a daily pill (seen as the thing that is helping to lift the low mood) is probably of equal importance as the actual drug, iyswim.

Thank you for your opinions on the rabbit napping this morning. DH is on it and has a plan for tomorrow. At the end of the day if the wee girl thinks the bunny is hers then she can keep it but we want to make the point that the bunny is actually P's.

Amazing that today throughout a hectic day I pondered this. As did DH who is in his last days of a thesis. Sitting at his desk surrounded by paper mulling over rabbit repatriation

Hey all,

izzy you and J both did fantastically last night! well done to both of you. FC tonight goes as well/better for you too.

Bless her lily last nights night terror doesn't sound like much fun :( hope she doesn't have one tonight. I can't really help with the napping - e was like it for a short while and then stopped. He usually stands straight up, looks over his bars for a moment and then lies himself down and goes to sleep. He did go through a phase of crying and moving around alot though. Hope O's passes soon.

Good luck with your diet MM

Sounds like some of the quiche babies have quite sizeable snacks, sophia E tends to have half a little box of raisins or a bit of a banana or something. Goodness only knows how he's so big as I think he eats fairly little really. I haven't wanted to give him big snacks because I thought it might mean he eats less of his meals. A boiled egg is a good idea pr i might try that. I haven't tried avocado either with e I can't stand it and haven't ever bought him any

pass hope you get p's rabbit back! Bless her. YWs idea is a good one!

apple that does sound tough, I think both you and dp have to be on the same page when it comes to sleep training. Have you spoken to him about it?

Today has been ok here, E has his first pair of shoes, they're for crawling and cruising, we got them from clark's. His feet poke out the bottom of the raincover and none of his shoes fit because soft bottomed ones from tescos and such are just too small :( He had his photos done too, i'll have to remember to put them on fb.

I need some out and about lunch ideas if anyone has any? Eric has had a sandwhich maybe 8 times. The first 3-4 times he ate a whole two slices of bread sized sandwhich with cheese spread/ham type fillings and seemed to love them. The other times, more recently, he seems to hate them, he'll only eat them if he's really hungry and pulls a face like he doesn't like it. He won't eat a lot, just enough to fill a small hole i think. He also doesn't like pouches at room temperature. I am ok feeding him lunches at home (though struggling for variety here too tbh) but we'll never get out of the house at this rate and between his morning and afternoon nap is his biggest bit of time but if lunch is in it and he has to have that at home there's an hour either side for us to do something which isn't alot. So any ideas would be fab, thanks guys. Or perhaps any ideas to make sandwiches more appealing? Can I use pitta bread, will he manage it ok? he has them toasted with pesto and cheese on them and loves those but that's a bit messy for out and about.

apple your DH needs to get on board with any plan. Can you sit him down and put the full weight of the situation to him?

lily I've just had the same screaming experience with E that you described. Happened last week as well. She did it a couple of times and I thouight I was in for a really bad night but then nothing. Tonight I had to hold her lots and walk about. She was still asleep to begin with but then gently woke and calmed down. Will see what happens next. I put it down to a bad dream.

pass Is it possible she has one the same and has got confused? Those jelly kitten bunny's are very popular. DD1 has 2 of them and E has a donkey. If not than I agree with others. You have to be assertive in a kind manor (if that's possible) and just take it off her saying "oh look P, here is your bunny. We haven't lost it, we just left it behind!. Or words to that effect. But GET IT BACK

It reminds me of when I was in primary school. I had a friend who used to come over to my house to play and she'd steal my toys. Instead of telling anyone I just used to go round her house and steal them back. Until one day she caught me and accused me of stealing her things. Bloody cheek! Anyhoo....

pig It sounds really nasty. Sorry your in pain.

Kyz we do the following things - cherry tomatoes (halved), cocktail sausages, scotch eggs, halved grapes, raisins, kiwi (sliced up). F will eat some plain bread and butter, but not keen on a sandwich - I think too much to get her 5 teeth around perhaps. Could E have a similar problem?

Bplp Thankyou :)
apple your DP needs to work as a team with you in all aspects of this parenting journey, starting from birth to 18..
kyz we have the stay home for lunch malarkey then not long til I pick the others up from school, it does get easier as they get older, (sorry not much help ATM) But you've just reminded me that I've got to get dd to clarks, she is slipping and sliding on the laminate floor now bless her, she needs some shoes!! I've been so busy getting the older kids kitted out and back to school and college.

kyz I used to have this problem with DD1 as she didn't eat sanwiches. I used to do breadsticks with a small pot of some form of dip usually houmous, cherry tomatoes, cocktail sausages, pitta bread, crackers, grapes, carrot sticks that I had partially cooked before hand, slices of cucumber, rolled up ham, babybels or those cheese string things, raisons and also she loved those organix oaty bar things. Not all at once you understand! Glad you've had a better day. Bless E with his first pair of shoes.

He's awake already. Fuck sake.

Thinking of talking to my mum about how I'm struggling. Have also contacted Samaritans. It's not C's fault and I'm truly sorry I'm a shitty mum. I don't know what's going to happen and I'm so scared

Same here apple.

And S's cough is back precisely 24 hours after we finally saw the paed about it and he discharged S because the cough was gone and S was happy, smiley and fine. Fucksake.

S only happy being bounced/rocked upright which I can't do for long as he is now 24lbs. And DH working. Have calpoled him up through, so fingers crossed!!

Good luck for tonight izzy

Hope you feel better soon bp

Wishing all the quiche a good night.

apple you are not a shitty mum. You're having a tough time and need support. Well done for reaching out. Keep talking to us xx

He will be better off without me. He's happier with my parents.

Yes apple I really think you should talk to your mum. She'd want to know how you are struggling. I'm so sorry you feel this way You are not a shit mum at all. You care and love C deeply. A shit mum would not. Have you got yourself a gp appt yet?

I'm starting from where I left off yesterday, so I'm very behind....

we also do TV before bed and cleaning teeth before milk - not ideal, but it works and not changing it!!

madame Our bedtimes sound pretty much like yours. DD1 has frequently fallen asleep waiting for N to drop off, and then I feel guilty as she hasn't had any time with me - which is what she's waiting for :( - but she is often the reason N won't go to sleep. She tries so hard to keep quiet but she makes more noise than she realises and is often up and down and in and out and then N is constantly sitting up to see what's happening.
The last few nights I have left her downstairs in front of Peppa Pig while put N down, which has worked a bit better.

Congratulations pidj's DP

And congratulations on the house eliza Swimming-pool eh?! very nice :) quiche pool party next summer?!

madame N still has 4 6oz bottles a day. But one is overnight, and as we've had a few nights he and there recently where she hasn't woken for it, I'm about to embark on dropping it.

mrsJ our bedtime is around 8ish too. It feels to late, and I'd love it to be earlier but neither of them will sleep before then.

izzy well done for last night - it must have been hard but you did brilliantly.

:( for the sore mouth bplp Hope you're feeling better soon.

((Hugs)) apple Hope you get a better night tonight. sit DP down when you can and explain the sleep thing. He possibly thought he was helping. if that fails, make him do the nights and the early mornings and see if he gets it then.

This has the makings of the world's biggest post so I'll leave it there. I have no news anyway :)

No apple. He would not be. You are his mum, nobody or nothing could replace you.