The 6th Broadly Gemini Luxury Bus - this way ladies.

[FrussoHathor]

Welcome aboard our 6th bus ladies.

Morning. I woke up thinking ds missed a feed last night. He had one when I went to bed, and another at 1.30. And a 2sider at 730 when I woke up. Maybe the 4am has vanished? That's plausible right? How can I miss a feed and not know which one?

I've slept through feeds in the past. Nora had a sneaky extra one last night, I think it was cos her daddy was away and Grandma stayed over so she wanted midnight smiles and cuddles.

I'm leaving her today, going to the theatre. She has both my parents and 2 bottles of expressed lined up for a 2 to 3 hour separation. I hope she'll be ok!

She'll have a lovely time I'm sure lib

Brrrr it is cold and wet here.

Yay for you Lib!! Have a wonderful time at the theatre! She will be fine, promise!

It's cold and wet here too frus. kind of like it after it being 90+ degrees for the past month

I don't know what's going on with the bubbies but holy buckets (haha) I expressed 8 oz out of one side this morning 6 out of the other, it's always the slow side Where the where did all this milk suddenly come from??

Well she was fine, I burst into tears at the end and not solely because the story was beautiful and moving!

She only had about 2oz from her bottle while I was out, she's had a reasonable feed off me now but I fear she may be chomping all night long to compensate! Also, she had not napped AT ALL today. She has grinned and cooed and been adored by her grandparents but she has not napped. Who ever heard if a baby who doesn't nap?

me miss, me me pick me!
It was probably because everyone was new and exciting and possibly misses her tired signs and distracted her from sleep by loving and kissing and cooing over her. She'll catch up on it.
My mil is the opposite and likes cuddling babies to sleep.

Frus ~ Ahhh is that what it is. The teat is too short?! Why didn't I think of that!! Hang on...I don't have super long nipples

Frus ~ I really hope it works for you otherwise I'm going to feel really guilty for passing it on

pear I didn't think I did until I watched my random letdown I am a freak.
And some bottles are really odd long shapes like this but obviously my nipples don't look like that.

Hah hah! You know of many different bottles lol

Not tried them though pear I just window shop a lot
Right off to gain some shut eye, and snuggle up to the boy, and try and get some energy for the school run tomorrow. Fx it goes okay with dd2.

Oh and my back is on the way out. Note to self do not pick up 3stone of wiggling stropping child anymore. ouchy.

Ps pear google is my friend.

Urgh. I feel so yucky! I really needed to spend most of yesterday in bed but couldn't, mostly because of the DC. DH had a right strop at me at 11pm because he felt like he'd had to do everything all day & still hadn't got himself sorted for work today. He'd done lots of unnecessary things. I'm ill & really needed to rest. As it is, I hardly slept because of my sore throat/nose/sinuses & feel exhausted & lousy but have to go grin like a mad person at the toddler group I help run. It starts back today & we're expecting a few new people. I want to hide in my bed! Calf & Runt are sooo getting early/long naps this afternoon!

I'll stop whinging now. Maybe...

Oh agnu whine away. It's horrible when you feel shit and still have to do stuff.

bring fair play to you for handing that situation with your DH. I'm not sure how I would have reacted in similar circumstances (but then I'm a fairly ranty feminist type).

agnu you poor thing. Hope you feel better soon. Sounds miserable.

So, I'm having a day where I feel like I totally don't know what I'm doing anymore. I kind of thought I knew DS and we had a little thing going but my confidence is just gone again.

WARNING massive rant follows so feel free to skip it and not read it. I'm just venting.

A few weeks ago DS managed to go 6 or 7 hours at night before needing a feed. We were thrilled - sleeping through the night and he did it about 4 nights in a row. Since then he's got progressively worse. He's going down at 8.30 but often getting up again around 10 and were struggling to get him down again. Some nights I've been up having to feed him three or four times, which just makes him windy and means he tosses and turns so I can't sleep and he wakes more often wanting to be fed to settle. So DH is convinced he hasn't needed all those feeds so on Sat night we tried to just settle him without feeding some of the times he woke, which worked. Last night we tried to do the same but he'd gone down at 8.30 and stayed done until 1.45 which was great so I fed him. When he woke again at 4.30 I initially just settled him and out him down but he didn't stay down, so then DH got up except he took him into the living room which woke him more which meant he started really howling crying. So after 10 mins of this I said that maybe he really did want feeding but DH disagreed and got really annoyed at me. Anyway I fed him and he eventually settled, and slept until 8.

So couple all the night dramas with the fact that I'm trying to combine it with trying to settle him during the day for naps without feeding. It works beautifully at the weekend when DH is here but this morning on my own he wouldn't go down even though he was tired and I KNOW from experience how important catching him in time and putting him down for naps is. So I gave in to the crying and fed him and he fell asleep but when I tried to put him down he woke crying so I picked him up and he burped and then threw up all over us both. So then I knew I was wrong to feed him. OS he's finally gone down an hour later than he probably should've done and I'm in tears feeling rubbish and like I really don't know what to do with him anymore.

Aaaaaannnndddd breathe.

Lor ~ my head is spinning after reading your post All I can say is I sympathise because I'm going through a similar stage too x

So, I caved in and brought another useless product The Gummee Glove. Why do I keep buying pointless items that don't work? I always fall for the reviews Anyway, the glove is for tiny hands and DS is not impressed neither is my bank account

Oh lor- don't feel useless, I'm sure there is not one of us that hasn't fed the baby when they don't need it because we know itl work or for an easier life. Sometimes it works sometimes it fails, you've got him having a nap now and it doesn't matter if its an hour later, sometimes dd is knackered but will only sleep for 30 mins, it's just one day and tomorrow you get to try again, try not to be so hard on yourself your learning just like we all are, one child is never the same as another
Pear- one of these days you'll find something that you can't live without and get to tell us all how fab it is!

Hah hah kitty! I can't live without baby Pear, does that count? I should really learn that the best things are free although I hardly call popping out a baby FREE

Lor ~ I forgot to say I do the wrong thing all the time, feed when it should be sleep time or feed just to get some sleep! You're doing a grand job!

And I over feed the boy and get puked on all the time.

lore babies are all about trial and error. All of my 3 have been different. And most of the time I don't know what I'm doing.

My parenting style is known as "make it up as you go along." with a mix of "why are you crying" and "ooh he's asleep" thrown in for good measure.
If only these babies read the parenting books.

Thanks ladies. Just had a massive moment this morning. Took my lovely, perfect little DS downto the postnatal group with baby massage at the health centre. Had a good chat with the health visitor who confirmed what you all just said - DS feeds well, is not under or over fed, his sleep is normal for this stage and just enjoy all the snuggly, feeding time. I have thus remembered that its all been going well up until now and DS and I are going to spend the afternoon making funny faces at each other, babbling and feeding on demand. Nice.

Oh my word! How much do I want one of those Gummy Gloves! That looks cool and just what Nora needs, she's always chewing her little fist and I really don't want her to be a thumb sucker when she's 5!

It's a grim, drizzly day here today and N does NOT want to nap, so I have put her on her tummy and let her wriggle!

Aww lor always a trial and error. You'd think we'd be experts (Frus and I) after 3 but like frus has self-proclaimed, I haven't got a clue what I'm doing most of the time either. You are doing splendidly and you're listening to your little guy and that's all that we can do at this stage! For what it's worth, M is taking like an hour to get settled down for bed. She doesn't want to feed, she doesn't want a dummy, she gets frustrated trying to suck on her fingers, so I try to latch her back on and she just clamps down on my poor nipples so we try the dummy again and she gives it two sucks and then screeches and then decides she wants to feed, urgh, it's a horrible hour of trying to get her to pass out. Hope your day is going better for you today!

Sorry you're feeling like crap agnu. Hope your dh grows some sympathy and gives you a break later.

My back has finally gone. After tweaking on Saturday, and threatening since then; a supermarket shop appears to have been the straw that broke this camels back.