November 2012 - Next stage car seats and yet more teething

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1808232-November-2012-Summertime-and-the-babies-are-sleeping-mostly-with-a-few-notable-exceptions

Still no naffing teeth here. P has been a wee mumping misery all day. I really hope she wakes up tomorrow with a whole mouthful of the wee fuckers.

P is currently a mummy's girl but will become a daddy's girl when I go back to work.

How are you doing today pass?

Aw thanks, chasing.

Much better today, thanks. I was having a rage about it earlier though. Cannot get home access to my email for 'security purposes' so I will have to spend hours on my first day back reading 6 months worth of email. It did feel good having a work rant though.

I called the school earlier to ask about it and not one person could help. Noone had any idea. So I called the council. The conversation went a bit like this

Me: oh hi there. I was just wondering if I could get access to my email at home? I am in the last week of mat leave and I would like to get caught up before going back on Monday.

Woman: nuht. The skeil will need tae dae that. Yell need tae be authorised.
Me: ah. I see. Well, I called the school and they said . . .

Woman: nuht. Nuht. It needs tae be an authorised persun.
Me: hmm. And there is no one at the council just now who could . . .

Woman: nuht. Y'ell need tae wait. Cheero.

Aw thanks, chasing.

Much better today, thanks. I was having a rage about it earlier though. Cannot get home access to my email for 'security purposes' so I will have to spend hours on my first day back reading 6 months worth of email. It did feel good having a work rant though.

I called the school earlier to ask about it and not one person could help. Noone had any idea. So I called the council. The conversation went a bit like this

Me: oh hi there. I was just wondering if I could get access to my email at home? I am in the last week of mat leave and I would like to get caught up before going back on Monday.

Woman: nuht. The skeil will need tae dae that. Yell need tae be authorised.
Me: ah. I see. Well, I called the school and they said . . .

Woman: nuht. Nuht. It needs tae be an authorised persun.
Me: hmm. And there is no one at the council just now who could . . .

Woman: nuht. Y'ell need tae wait. Cheero.

Woo! I enjoyed that rant so much I did it twice. Soz about that peeps!

And thanks for all the kind words yesterday and this morning quiche! It genuinely helped - I was feeling really pretty down but you guys were great.

I will need to organise myself, get my head down and just get on with it. The senior class will be fabulous when I get a handle on things.

Evening :)

Didn't use the calpol, but will if necessary. He woke up from his nap okay, ate ok, moaned his way through the bath, cried his way through getting dressed and settled at 7:30 after going to bed at 7:10. He keeps getting up and travelling around his cot, he doesn't stay still and then moans more because he's tired and can't sleep! Whyyy doesn't he understand me when I tell him he can't bloody sleep when he's on his knees or crawling in circles in his bed. Please somebody tell me this is just a phase? He'll get bored of crawling round his bed soon, won't he?

wow lily well done for surviving the kiddiewinks! Enjoy your bath!

detective it doesn't sound like kids get any easier as they get older! I sometimes wish e was more of a mummys boy. If he's hurt himself, then it's me he wants but other than that daddy is the shizzle. Though recently i'm pretty cool too, he seems to think. Today though nobody is interesting unless they are nomming his bhudda belly. I found it hard yesterday and today telling if E is teething, just being whingy or having some kind of reaction/belly ache from the normal formula I gave him, I swear it's a bloody minefield sometimes, this baby malarkey!

pp are clear lines teeth? I hope so, e has two clear looking bits on his bottom two gummy areas. But I can't really feel anything :S So confusing.

pass I am very much feeling the same today regarding cunting wanking arse wiggling teeth. You'll be grand back at work i'm sure, and sounds like you'll have alot to do with the emails to catch up on :| Not sure why you can't get access to them at home, that'd really nark me!

DP is back at work tonight, he's had a week off. I've not been going to bed till 11/11:30 but tonight i'm going to have an earlyearlier night methinks!

seems quiet on here this evening! Hope it's cos everyone is having a chillaxing time :)

Pass I cannot access my work email at home either. I think it is a very good thing. You should do that on work time

DH is taking the girls away to his mums for a few days as J is not up to going. I am actually really pleased as HE said J was not up to it, and when I said he could go on his own, HE volunteered to take the girls! Perhaps he is growing up?

I said I was going to have a party while they are away, and he is worried that you guys will convince me to not let him come back home bless him

kyz it is a phase (albeit quite a long one). They realise they can move and when they move they have much more fun. So obviously they don't want to stop at bedtime. I would guess that this is about the time a lot of people start controlled crying.
I have a different technique which sometimes works: i pick them up and go and stand by a plain wall, or the tv with no sound. No eye contact, just boring nothingness. Basically LO bores herself to sleep, but as is in my arms doesn't cry. However you have to put them down before they actually sleep. I pick when they look at me but can't quite focus, and yawning or sighing.
Used to do it with DD1 too. I can't remember where I read it but it does seem to get them through the fussy phases.

V muggy here tonight. A storm just went past us down the river but we didn't even get a breeze :(

Oh yes, when I am not around he's a daddy's boy. But the second I am in sight it's all about mummy. WAH! It's nice. Just tiring as sometimes it would be nice that DP is the one who has to stop what he is doing playing games on his laptop for once. That bit pisses me off. As he just ignores whatever else is going on in the room. So clearly O is going to come to me if Daddy ignores him...

Fuck I'm really annoyed with DP at the minute for so many petty little things. Why? WHY??! The little things I usually let slide. But right now, just GRRRRR.

O is getting wise to me sneaking mash potato on his spoon underneath the nice yummy veg. If it was only sludgy green as opposed to luminous green, it got the nononononono shaking of the head til the right colour green appeared on the spoon!

He also destroyed an entire jelly by spraying me with it after dinner. He ate a little, laughed at it wobbling, then refused to eat more til I tipped it out on his highchair, where he ate one more spoonful then smushed the rest in to smithereens.

Pass helpful then was she?!

Erm, I think O has definitely reacted. We've just had a wake up, and a very screamy one at that. Maybe the yogurt was a step too far in the soya department! Will stick to it in very small quantities. Well after I try him again to observe a reaction.

:o bless vq
I think it will be a good break for you though, just to have a few days alone with J.

I can access my work email from home and do. I have logged in at least once a week since the beginning of ml, and the last few months have been logging in daily at least. That's how much I used to love the place :(

Yep kyz! P has been like this for weeks. I sit in the chair with her. She has her bag on, dummy in, Ewan plays and the lights are off. She dozes off relatively quickly this way.

You are right VQ. It can be done but j just don't have access yet. I am worried though as I have so little time in the school day to get everything done that needs done I have got used to doing this one task at home. The system has changed meaning I used to get it and now don't until I am authorised again. I have spent many an evening emailing parents back and forward while child refuses to do X, Y or z!

And I am pleased DH seems to be taking the initiative VQ. Sounds like a big step forward

Evening all,

Finding it hard to keep up at te moment so forgive me if I don't reply to everything!

Yes to teefs. I think O has his two top ones coming through but he had swollen lower gums for ages before they came through so goodness knows how imminent they are

Lily that sounds exhausting! Enjoy your bath.

3 things of note happened here today. First, when I went to get O from his morning nap I turned the baby monitor in his room off but the unit downstairs was still on. My dad came up and asked what was wrong with O as he was crying. Only he wasn't. There was the sound of a crying baby coming through the monitor Freaked me out no end. It was just picking up a signal from a nearby house, right? Who happened to have a crying baby? Even though none of the immediate neighbours have babies?

Second, I had been out shopping for at least half an hour today before I realised that the strap of my top had broken and I was therefore exposing my bra to the whole of Sainsburys.

And a lovely moment with Oscar to end the day - I was rocking/walking O to sleep and felt very peaceful thinking how nice it must be to be cuddled to sleep every night, when he lifted his head off my chest and put his hand on my face. When I whispered 'stop it' and giggled and kissed his nose, he giggled back A really lovely mummy baby moment

That does not work with O PR as he just beats me up, grabs my hair/glasses/climbs up me as far as he can go til he is pretty much standing on my shoulders. O seems to be able to find entertainment where there is none.

I'm seriously in need of getting him off being rocked to sleep though, so I have to find a solution soon!

Weighed him tonight, and he is spot on 20lb.

Oh my.

Bedtime took over an hour tonight.

And I think F might have chicken pox.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck

That sounds lovely chasing. I love those special moments not the rocking though clearly ha!

VQ Fuck a duck, he used his initiative! There is hope yet!

Aaghh poxypig! Better while they're young though, yes?

Oh no BP! Poor wee soul. Poor you!!

det p is quite like that although not as big so not as strong. I just sit through it. I read story after story if need be. It is exhausting and has had me in tears but infinitely better than rocking. She fights much less now as she is starting to understand that it is bedtime.

chasing that sounds adorable. I love those moments.

And the baby monitor thing would have me throwing it out the window. It would creep me out to the max

sounds like maybe he is growing up a bit vq, I know you'll miss the three of them when they're gone but I bet it will also be nice to have some you and J time :) How is J atm?

Glad to hear it's a phase pr I may try that technique with E if it comes to it, it might work but as detective says about her O, E often will find something to do to keep himself awake. It's been about 3-4 nights now, and what I do is put him to bed, he will crawl around a bit, and when he starts to whine i put him back in the middle on his back, and he will either get back up and start again, or go to sleep. Tonight it took me going in once, last night was about 4 times, i think. I don't know when I should go in or what I should consider as 'good' or when i should just leave him and let him get on with it. He just whines, it's just a 'hrrrrrrrmm' kind of noise, a high pitched little moan. He shuffles this way and that way and today I let him moan a little and he eventually settled. I don't know, I think in the grand scheme of things he is still what most would consider good at bedtime, he's just not as easy as he used to be!

det hopefully doing it in teensy quantities and slowly will be alright for him but perhaps you're right and it was a bit much too soon. Hope he's right again soon enough :) Also, can't be fun rocking a 20lb baby to sleep :|

Speaking of weights, it's weigh in clinic tomorrow and I keep finding reasons that mean I need to go because i am so paranoid about his weight but I really should stop weighing him twice a month. It is not necessary. So far I have come up with 1) he's had the runs and might've lost weight 2) i've taken a bottle away 3) I sometimes feel very guilty about giving him solids before bottle with the exception of breakfast and feel like i'm forcing him into things even though he seems perfectly happy usually 4) what if he's still gaining weight like a mega baby and is still 'too big' 5) what if they realise i'm not there and think i've done something to him :| or actually, what if they realise i'm not there and think thank fuck she's finally fucking given up weighing the poor little sod. I am trying to force myself to leave it till the next clinic cos then it will have been a month since he was weighed last, and that's less 'paranoid mother' seeming.

E just moaned, but he's moved somewhere else now. Still asleep, so that's good.

pass E would just want to get off my knee if I tried that! Tactics so far are to turn his mobile on after 3 dummy inserting sessions. I hope he stops bothering soon. He has a load of cuddly toys at the bottom of his cot, do you think if i move them he'll be bored quicker and go to sleep, or if i move them will he be bored quicker and whinge more?

chasing i've known that to happen before when my siblings were younger. It's weird, but hey, least it wasn't o crying! that mummy baby moment sounds lovely :) you two have such a fab bond, it's very sweet :)

Right. Have composed myself with the aid of Ben and Jerrys

Chasing I would be spooked. See earlier comments re: Enid Blyton.
Det I would be wary of sending O to MIL. Now I love cooking, and eating, but even I could not spend the day in a kitchen. Imagine the chaos that O could unleash? Terrifying.
Pass I'm glad you're feeling better today. Phone lady sounds hellish.
VQ sorry to hear J is still unwell.

F might not have the pox. Am a bit worried though. When she started at nursery there was a sign saying that a child had had cp. That was 2.5 weeks ago perfect incubation period then. Today they had to send a baby home who developed the spots during the day (so from Fs little group). Fs keyworker said they nearly phoned me to collect F as she has developed more spots during the day. Now most of them are in her creases, and look like a flare up of eczema, BUT there are 3 or 4 suspicious little blisters, which are not eczema. I shall see what the morning brings. Plus her poor bottom is red raw with nappy rash . FECKING TEETH HURRY UP.

Sleep is hard! I find getting to sleep and staying asleep hard so I suppose I am not too surprised when p does too. kyz it sounds like E is moving in the right direction. Personally, I would keep popping in if it sounds like he is getting actually distressed. Otherwise leave him if you can. I suppose I am lucky that p will cuddle in as she does want to be asleep but can't do it alone yet. If I try to pop her in the cot awake she races off and gets hysterical immediately if I turn her back over.

And kyz any change from the norm for you wil be hard and weird. All of our babies are different so of course you are finding it tough when E needs more seeing to than usual. It's not really relevant what other babies need because they are not E.

chasing I am a big believer in woo but baby monitors can pick things up from up to 300 metres in any direction. In our last house we were often woken up by a little girl shouting 'papa, papa' down the monitor. Even though DD1 couldn't speak it sounded like her. It wasn't though, it was a toddler from across the field at the bottom of our garden. Took me til a dog walk past her house (regular walk) weeks later when I heard her shouting and saw her. It was an old house I was proper freaked until then :o

pig I hope it is not the pox :(

Just caught up!

Chasing wah about the monitor - I'm convinced one day I'll see something on the video monitor!

VQ well done that man!

Det boo on the soy.

BP booooo on pox!

Well we had the paed today. Gulp..... from tomorrow I'm to try trace dairy in my diet every day for 3 days (just a wee scrape of lurpack on a bagel every morning). Not chocolate as that's a reflux trigger. Seen as soy in my diet now gets no reaction I'm really excited to try dairy. I hope we can get him comfy with it in my diet before weaning. Apparently now his reflux is under control and he's passed a challenge safely - the sooner we can get trace dairy into him the better. It'll have made the last 8 months dairy free worth it to get him onto it gently. God two months and I'll be eating as normal I hope! It has flown by really.

I hope she doesn't have the pox bplp :(

That makes sense pass, they are all so very different. If i try to cuddle e to sleep he bashes me and yells at me till i put him down. Even when he's in my bed now he cuddles with me but before he falls asleep he rolls over into the middle of the bed and zonks out there. He sleeps better by himself though. I am going to try to leave him to it unless he sounds obviously distressed as you said. I'll just try it tomorrow and see what happens when I don't go in when he is only moaning a little. Tonight I left him to it and he did go to sleep eventually. 20 mins to self settle seems ages to me but I think I have just been very lucky so far.

That sounds very exciting YW! I was thinking about this just today with P. after me castigating my pal to you for feeding her CMPI baby a petit filou I found myself musing . . .