November 2012 - Next stage car seats and yet more teething

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1808232-November-2012-Summertime-and-the-babies-are-sleeping-mostly-with-a-few-notable-exceptions

I have lots more yw don't worry. We are surrounded by vineyards.

yw have pm'd you on an unrelated matter.

Aren't poms kids crisps? Less salt? She gave sweet chilli sensations which r full of salt. She also gave a biscuit earlier. Bil said don't give that. It's bad for him. She continued.

GT if it were my MIL I'd be pissed off too. But a couple of crisps one evening won't hurt him. But at your MIL on principle

Oh, yw I drown wasps. I hate them. I once had an allergic reaction to one, ran into pharmacy and they epi'd me.

Had allergy tests a few months later and Dr said am not allergic ten years later I live in fear, with no epi pen.

I forgot my rant last night!

How could I?!!!!!

Ok, so setting the scene here... I took O to baby group. I was early first time ever and the group before mine were packing away. As I sat down with O, one mum was talking to another. Now before anyone accuses me of earwigging - you could not earwig on this conversation! The women were a good 3 meters apart while having the conversation. (It's a large room in a community centre).

Woman 1 says to woman 2 'oh have you seen X's status' on facebook. All the time, the same thing, whinge whinge whinge. How little sleep she's had, how much her baby cries, how hard it all is, and she never bloody shuts up about how he has reflux and lactose intolerance'.

Woman 2 says 'oh god I know, it's so annoying, I've thought about deleting her'.

Woman 1 says 'she seriously needs to shut up about it, everyone has it hard. I'm knackered too, but you don't hear me moaning all the time'.

Woman 2 'oh yeah, I mean you read status' from Y and her baby is in NICU, and she updates with 100 days in NICU. She's got it hard. X needs to just shut up and stop whinging about it.

Woman 1 ' I mean its ridiculous, look at it, she's moaning about reflux and Y's baby is in NICU. I bet he doesn't even have anything wrong with him anyway, he's just doing what babies do and she can't cope'.

All this with rolling of eyes, meaningful looks and total horrible judginess. There were worse comments after this but I just can't face rehashing more of the conversation.

You have NO idea how much inner strength it took not to shout (I was sat on the floor with O) over at them and berate them for the awful judginess and ignorance of their convo. I was shaking with rage at how horrible these women were. If I ever see them again, and I am in a position to, I will say something (constructive) about how perhaps they need to consider people around them who may have children with the same or similar problems when shouting their mouths off. And perhaps they need to actually understand what they are talking about before making incorrect assumptions and judgements. And most of all, perhaps this 'friend' of theirs who would be better off dumping them, friends my ass might be struggling an awful lot, and need her friends to talk to, to support her, go around and see her. But most of all, not slag her off.

GT on your behalf. Absolutely - if you don't want him to have them, then that is your prerogative.

Fuck you MIL and your interfering ways!

Speaking of MIL's, I went to mine for lunch today. Just me, DS1 and O and I took all the stuff for the most delishhhhhhhhhhious lunch nom nom! and she tentatively asked me about foods for O. She said 'so he can't have any dairy or soya?' I told her no, not at the moment, but I was going to try him with soya soon. I added quickly that she doesn't need to worry too much, as when ever he comes to hers I will always send more than enough food for him, and leave some suitable things at hers. I said I would give her a copy of the milk free weaning booklet I have got, and if she wanted an emergency list of foods that were okay I'd make one for her too. She seemed happy with that. She did ask what bread he could have, and I said to be honest, I don't know other than the brand we give him, because that is what we eat also! Said I'd let her know!

So which bread brands are dairy/soy free then ladies?!

oh fuck detective that would have absolutely made my blood boil. sadly my hvs were that sort of type.

I meant to say a while ago following a bit on the Fred about how many reflex babies that a couple of gp friends say it's terribly undiagnosed.

when I went dairy free I'm sure I was eating hovis or warbutons or something. I bet there's dairy free pitta or something.

Detective that must have been horrible to hear. I'd have ranted my arse of at them.

One of my DNs had undiagnosed reflux (the older one vq) and I remember years later how awful it was. I think reflux being actually diagnosed is relatively recent.

AndI wasn't even in the same country! And got everything third hand from my mum!

GT my J loves pickled onion Monster Munch. DS1 shares his with J sometimes!

I need a good slap, I bloody well ate egg again. It was a cream meringue thingy. I didn't realise until it was too late and I thought about sticking my fingers down my throat but that's maybe a little extreme. So I take it we'll be back to no sleep for a couple of nights. Sigh. Stupid mummy.

sophia loads of mum's round me swear by those necklaces. I was on verge of getting one but didn't and teething issues magically stopped. obv if I'd got one I'd have said it was that still, I'm tempted and as I say lots of mum's reckon they work.....

Thank FUCK this week is over. Still have to work over weekend but not tonight. Car is fucked but now it is the weekend I can actually turn my attention to dealing with it.

S is not well at all and hasn't been for ages -couple of months with the same persistent cough. 3 rounds of antibiotics in that space of time, all of which seemed to work but cough back within a couple of days of the end of the course. Pretty much always has a runny nose, gunky ears and he is very wheezy and chest permanently rattles. The hosp visit recently for sky-high temp was put down to probable ENT infection. He was fine after that calmed down for a couple of days but the bad chesty cough came back. The inhaler we have used for 2 days has made him hoarse so he is crying sort of soundlessly and it is obvious he also now has a very sore throat. It's really pitiful. He's sleeping now but breathing is often quite laboured - which has become normal for him. We're waiting on a paeds apt but wondering if I should be doing anything in the meantime? He eats and sleeps reasonably well, is generally content and happy, which makes me think he is ok really, but his cough is awful and listening to his laboured breathing makes me want to cry. I don't want to be an annoying patient but also don't want to not do what I can to get it sorted.

Am feeling like a really shit mum because he's just having to get on with it because I am so fucking busy.

Sorry, very me post.

Stunt, hope egg effects aren't too bad. Det, what massive bitches.

Will catch up properly!

Det I'd have given them a mouthful! Was in Costa with baby group mates once and they were commenting on an apparently healthy woman using the disabled loo/baby change. I made everyone by pointing out she may have anxiety, bladder/bowel issues, balance problems or any one of a number of things that meant she couldn't wait, needed extra space or a handrail... Always stand up for those who have no voice

gazelle you aren't an annoying patient with a baby. The cough could be just a cough. My two's went with a humidifer in the bedroom on lowest setting. Would it be worth trying somethingnlike that?

madam I am so sorry things are shit. And you are not shit for being busy - all of us will be there. I wondered the other day if your wee one might have a touch of thrush in the back of the throat. I have had it as a result of inhalers. I was advised to gargle with water after taking it. Probably totally wrong and t wouldn't explain the breathing but it does give a terrible sore throat and hoarseness

det that would make me boil. I also would have said nothing though. I am a wimp. I am amazed that these women have no little sympathy - self righteous mooses. At my baby sensory group there were 4 with reflux of varying degrees and one with intolerance and allergy to a whole host of stuff. I used to love going because everyone was so fucking lovely to each other.

Well, operation possibly poison p seems to have gone well. She got about a baby spoon of soy yogurt this morning. No irritable behaviour, no unexplained crying. Her lunchtime nap was very short at 45 minutes but her morning one was 90 minutes when I woke her - she would have easily kept sleeping. So I don't think the poor nap was a result of soy. Can I say that she is ok or should I try again?

Thanks folks. There is nothing wrong with crisp or anything. I gave him ice cream n spag Bol from shop bought jar. I'm not a has to be 100% organic home made type person. More to do with it being HER n not being able to say no.

Oh well. I've not managed to keep up at all! I think ive missed two threads now. Hope you are all well. Hope to drop by again soon. Lol

It's always lovely to hear from you GT Did you know that I am in the up-diffed club with you :)

GT i'm sure you have your reasons for putting up with her, but you're a better person than me. I wouldn't be able to put up with my mil for more than a few days

How's it going donna ?

Thanks pass and pr. The hoarseness def linked to inhaler so will give him lots of fluids. Hadn't thought about a humidifier, will think about that. Thanks.

GT what PR said!!

I'm so excited, my cousin is in labour she's having a boy, all of us cousins have had girls so far, 6 in total, he will be the first boy! I'm hoping to wake up to a lovely picture of him.

Great thanks PR I've been feeling very sick and sorry for myself, and can't stop eating crap between nausea but all good. I'm 11 weeks ish to be confirmed at 12 wk scan, which I'm waiting to come in post.
Dd started crawling today, and I literally can't take my eyes off her she is so fast , all of a sudden, I can't believe it. And she also does it commando style dragging her tummy along the floor.