November 2012 - Summertime, and the babies are sleeping (mostly with a few notable exceptions)

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1800961-November-2012-Is-is-too-early-for-birthday-plans

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I have a baby who is a bit of both. Have had a couple of nights of sleeping through, but more often than not we are getting 2-3 wake ups.

S is sleeping through, and even in this weather won't sleep unless she's in her pjs and a sleeping bag, with a fleecy blanket to rub on her face!

I have a sleep througher but he hates naps and is a pain to get to bed at the moment

Sleep through-er here too - at last! I never thought I'd say those words! But an early riser. A very early riser. 5am is not morning F!

2 short wakes is normal here, with last night the exception. Hoping he catches up with the rest of you soon!

Who else is still bfing? Seems like most have moved to bottles now for various reasons?

Still russian roulette here!

Some nights he sleeps, most are now at 1 wake up. Thank fuck.

But early wake ups more the norm here too :(

Still bfing here Pidj. Now that J is on solids he doesn't get any expressed milk or formula at all as he can just have solids if I'm away from him for any reason. I'm not looking forward to that first tooth though!

E sleeps through. I think the tube feed I used to do before I went to bed carried her through the night. However when I haven't been able to do that due to the tube coming out it hasn't seemed to disturb her. For the last 3 nights she hasn't had the tube at all, day or night. I did wonder how it would effect her nights. First 2 nights she woke around 5 for a quick bf and went back till about 8. Last night she went till 7.30am.

So what are we classing as sleeping through? I class it as bedtime (which here is between 7 and 8) and 7am!

Still bf here. Just finished feeding DD1 at 3.5 yo. Hoping I can persuade this one to stop earlier esp as diary free! Sleeps with one wake usually though not tonight.

Morning,

I'm broody. Very much so. I'm 34 in oct and frankly i have no idea what the future holds.

O woke screaming, I can feel her top tooth, well the gum is swollen. Hope it pops soon.

O sleeps through. Thanks fuck.

Sorry for the thread ending. I'm tired, grumpy and emotional.

det I'd class sleeping through as midnight til 6am just now!! No point moaning that J isn't as you all know that anyway and are probably sick to death of reading about it. I think I'm going to take a break from here. It's getting too hard reading about everyone else's babies and how well they're eating and sleeping. Especially when J won't touch food and isn't sleeping or napping. It's too hard to take. I can't cope anymore. Hopefully I'll report back at some point that he's cracked it but for now thanks for all the support.

Oh izzy huge hugs. I'm pretty sure J will crack it and you will all be so happy.

Oh izzy massive hugs. I wish I could make everything better for you, I really do.

Oh izzy I wish there was something we could do to help. Take a break if you need to but wears all here for you.

YW I got updiffed with S around DD's first birthday - we have 21 months between them. Quite a tough first few months, even though I'd say they are both pretty easygoing DC (no major food or sleep issues). 2 under 2 is just a juggling act, elder DC still needs a lot of physical care, and newborn needs constant contact. I think that after this first year, the age gap will have so many benefits - I hope!

I'm pretty sure S is last baby. In fact I know he is, but it seems so final saying that.

PP still EBF though planning to wean at one - think I'll possibly also wean earlier if I get preggers as I don't want to tandem feed as that was possibly why my niece arrived 3 months early (it was that or suspected listeria) and I'd be terrified of having an early prem. 36 weeks was fine 27 weeks would be Also I want to eat calcium rich foods cheese and chocolate oink oink oink

As for sleep 3 nights a week its one wake up about nowish and then he goes til 8.30 / 9am and 4 nights a week there's none but he's up by 7.30am - I prefer the nights with one waking! It's been good for 3 months so that's why I'm convinced we're due a horrible regression.

Izzy it will be James so soon darlin it will - don't disappear. You are doing so freaking amazingly. I wish I could make you a RL full dairy with lots of . It's v easy to forget a meds dose - it's happened here a few times, also I'd have caved and BF too. Maybe the first night of pure FF you need to put ear plugs in and let DH do the battle?

Oh izzy. I too was reading of all the sleeping. G was up loads too and hasn't had fewer than 3 wakening for months. More than that last night though lost count plus dd twice too. Don't leave us. Others may be blessed with sleep - but have other crap to contend with that I am definitely not of.

I hate to say it though but I do think you need to bite the bullet now, switch to bottles of neocate and stop offering bf. If you try and do a bit of both I think he will stop taking the bottles - he isn't daft. I know you must be sad about the bf and it is really inconvenient - but you both need that sleep and he needs to start recovering from the reflux. And if dh forgets the meds again give him what for. You won't nail the sleep or the solids till he is recovered or recovering at least. And I fear that bottles without bm is what's needed for that.

I have been having milk traces but know I have to cut them - and if that doesn't work will be joining you on the switch. G and I both need more sleep too - and while I love bf, if it is making him uncomfortable and stopping him sleeping I know it is not what is best for him. I will give a full on dairy exclusion a go but can't manage more than that diet wise at the moment. Family life is just too challenging.

Big hugs izzy - hope you can get a bit of rest today.

We do 7:00 to 06:30 on a good day 05:45 on a bad day, which seems to be a lot at the mo. this isn't too bad as I get my evenings and on work days we leave the house at 07:15 so I need them up by 06:30. Really I like to have half n hour to sort myself out before the boys wake but that just hasn't been happening with the light and warm mornings.

DS2 would sleep later normally but he doesn't normally have a lunchtime nap every day. During the hot weather though he has been up early, lunchtime nap and normal bedtime. He has a Gro blind but O's window is too big. I tried. Charcoal fleece blanket over the curtain rail which helped but I noticed the weight was pulling at the middle bracket a bit and as we are renting I idn't want to wreck it.

Ahh well. I am doing afternoon tea today for the team and their kids from the baby group I go to. It has finished for the summer and I didn't get to go to the last one because of pox. And I will never go again.

izzy :( I wish I knew how to help you. please remember we are all behind you, even though I'm sure that doesn't seem like much use at the moment.

izzy I know I really don't know what it's like and I didn't even stick to the bf'ing as I found it too hard, so I admire all those of you who have. I mean REALLY. And tbh I have had a lot of moments in the early days where everyone is going on about bf'ing and I have felt absolutely and completely inadequate. So I kept quiet, but I didn't stay away because there is nothing like having a network of other mums who do pretty much understand what you are going through. So please don't go away.

Izzy you are amazing. We are right here routing for you xx

izzy (((hugs)))

Shite night here. LO was fine. Even though despite the fan running all night the room when I went in just now was 26.5°. Why did the weather go literally from needing the heating on one week to sauna the next?

We had a bad night though. DD1 is being particularly naughty at the moment. I don't know if it is her age, or the fact I am distracted with work, or that she is stressed by the heat too, but she's being a fucking nightmare. Anyway she couldn't sleep last night so made sure we couldn't either. By kicking me and pulling my hair. Not to hurt me, it seemed to be a kind of joke. But she was the only one who found it funny.

The weekend has been horrible. We're all too wound up to relax, and the heat is too much. We have spent the weekend shouting at each other. DH is not coping with the fact I am not coping at the moment.

The yesterday MIL phoned up suddenly saying that with the heat we must be finding things difficult would we like to drive the children to their house (1000km away) and leave them there for a month, but only from mid August.

DH has told her we will think about it. I thought about it for less than 10 seconds. Over my dead body.

Please don't go Izzy. You're definitely not the only one struggling with bad nights. At the moment I feel like I would give anything for a full night's sleep. Before the holiday I was on the point of phoning the HV and saying I couldn't cope any more and they would have to take my children away. Then in the morning everything would seem okay... until the next night rolled around. We're definitely seeing some improvement with my exclusion diet and the hourly wakings have stopped but J is still usually up several times a night. I got the reflux diagnosis a little earlier than you (6 months) and my J is only allergic to egg but I'm sure you would see the same improvement if you switch to formula. It really looks as if your J is still reacting to trace allergens in your diet. Could your DH give some or all of the bottles at night? I know my J will only take formula if he's very hungry or I'm not there. Maybe a schedule would work, try him every three hours or four hours like clockwork for a couple of days so you know he will be hungry.

PR this might cheer you up - the Duchess of Cambridge has been admitted to hospital in early stages of labour

My stepmum just hurried excitedly into my room to tell me.

Yes I just saw it on BBC Breakfast. This is the beginning of the madness.