November 2012 - Summertime, and the babies are sleeping (mostly with a few notable exceptions)

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1800961-November-2012-Is-is-too-early-for-birthday-plans

[Bryzoan]

I can't think of much worse than knowing the world has been told I'm in labour and the media is camped out on the steps. And all those advisors might be useful - but I think I'd want to tell them to do one. Still - she is hopefully a bit more tolerant than me...

[Bryzoan]

And you're all right - she's likely to be ok for analgesia and not deeply affected by the shortage of midwives...

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

I wonder how much pressure knowing everyone is hanging around waiting will affect her labour.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

I wonder if she is running a live birth thread.....

[YellowWellies]

I reckon between 8 and 9lb and a girl. Names - no clue, maybe something old but unusual like Adelaide or erm...

[Bryzoan]

Sophia - it would be fun to start one!

[ValiumQueen]

I dreamed she had a girl and called her Ivory. No idea why.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Abigail would be a nice name. But I'm going for Charlotte Elizabeth Diana if tis a girl.

James charles Henry if tis a boy.

[MsJupiterJones]

I'd laugh if they said she was only 2cm and sent her home.

[YellowWellies]

Right five minutes of news 24 coverage and I'm ranting like a sans culottes!!! Apparently Kate's incredibly hard working but only did 19 days of work this pregnancy oh and Diana had a terribly long and difficult first labour - it was 16 hours hahahaha. Oh and there won't be a running commentary from the palace on how the labour progresses so why are you attempting one BBC!!!!????? Where's the 'clearly a Republican' emoticon?

[Pikz]

Chasing came across this on Bbc website. Thought it might be useful in custody talks bbb-news.com/blog/2013/07/21/nights-away-from-mum-leave-babies-less-secure-new-findings-could-affect-custody-rulings-for-young-children/

[MissMummy1]

16 hours?! Long and hard?! Chokes muesli in M's direction.

I am fed up of it already

[ChasingDaisy]

Thanks pikz looks interesting.

[Pikz]

I came on here this morning to write a massive rant about how come everyone else's baby but mine has naps and 3 hour ones at that. I saw izzys post and stopped in my tracks because my heart proper goes out to you izzy.

So far L self settled for his nap and has been asleep nearly 2 hours. This has never happened before and will probably never happen again. How long do I leave it before I go to check he's alive?

[Passmethecrisps]

pikz! Just the very person. What were the steps to the self-settling thing the nursery gave you?

[Passmethecrisps]

Bugger. Have loads of deliveries due but need a shower. Can someone keep an ear out for the door please?

Thanks

[MsJupiterJones]

Pass, was it you saying about P waking for the dummy? Just to say L went through a phase of that but has now learnt to put it back in himself or sometimes just self settles without. Occasionally he'll get it stuck behind his head & need me to pop it in but it's nothing like it was a few weeks ago. I didn't do anything, he just got better at it. So hopefully P will too. Not sure if that is helpful or not?!

[Elizadoesdolittle]

izzy please don't go. I know it must be hard to read about other babies sleeping, but that aren't all doing it. I know you and stunt have it particularly bad. Perhaps take a little break from posting during the night. I know when I used my phone at night I found it harder to switch off. If you do feel you need to step away for a bit just remember we are all here rooting for you.

I don't feel sort for Kate as she knew what she was getting herself into. However I don't envy her.

[Passmethecrisps]

Yes it is JJ! I woke her this morning as she was still sound asleep at 6:45. When I turned the light on she just sort of shuffled, rooted around, found the dummy and sooked it in.

Sometimes she does one quick "wah!" And shuffles. I usually go in and put her dummy back in. Other times but much more rarely she does proper sobs until it is back in.

I don't mind particularly as I am not a good sleeper anyway so am often awake at the time. It does mean that I never get more than 3 hours unbroken sleep. I can't complain about that though, really.

I feel it is my fault as P used to self-settle but now can't basically when she stopped being swaddled she forgot how to do it - even though she was never swaddled in the day and self-settled for naps then.

It's no biggy. I might try to work on it a bit though over the next few weeks as I would love her to go to the CM able to self-settle at least in theory.

[Lily311]

I reckon it's a girl, 8lb 1. 25 hours labours for me so who knows?

[Passmethecrisps]

Oh and one of my parcels arrived when I was in the shower. Ran to the door with conditioner in my hair all dripping wet.

One arrived earlier. Couldn't find my keys so had to go out the back door and out into the street in my dressing gown! I took p with me as in my head that looked marginally better.

[Passmethecrisps]

My feeling is that labour is always hard no matter how long or short. You will almost always feel like you have been hit by a bus for weeks after and be left emotional and exhausted.

If I was really to get into it I think the focus on length and difficulty of labour is unhelpful and generated by the media to create a woman Vs woman scenario. Look at all the focus on 'natural' births Vs those with medical intervention. You carry the baby for 9 months and love it until your heart explodes. We all do no matter how fast or slow the labour, how 'easy' or hard it was or how many staff are on stand by.

[georgee]

Izzy lovely, just wanted to send you a hug and say that my James was up six times last night, I think more times than that the night before actually - and I'm always hearing in toddler groups etc about these babies that sleep through, or at least five hours at a time, and it seems like those babies are on a different planet to mine! He has NEVER slept through - the most he's ever managed is five hours, and I can count the times he's done that on the fingers of one hand.

It's exhausting - during the day (like now) I can just about manage but during the night and first thing it's like torture! Just hang in there, take a long term view if you can. Things will get better. I will continue to post about my terrible nights if it makes you feel any better!

x

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

I agree with you pass labour is hard for everyone and with every birth, I had a really long one for DD1, (3 days of discomfort, although a lot of that was latent phase it hurt) 20 hours for DS1 and a long latent phase but a short active labour for O.

I am ready for my afternoon tea. Sandwiches x a squillion, mini quiches, cupcakes, party sausages,rocky road and strawberries. Had to steal a sandwich.

[FatimaLovesBread]

Don't go izzy, I'd be useles in your situation, you're doin g so well.

M has reverted to being fed to sleep for naps and won't go to bed until at least 9pm and then waking for 2-4 feeds a bight as a result we didn't get up until 9am this morning. Not good when I got only 4 weeks left of mat leave, need to get some sort of routine sorted.

pp we're still BF, never had a bottle, complete refuser. When I go back to work she'll just be having solids and water during the day, no milk.
BF is starting to become a bit of a pain for half the feeds, M fights and scratches and nips and wants to get up and play. Stresses me out!