November 2012 - Is is too early for birthday plans?!

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1794169-November-2012-The-Adventure-Continues

It probably is true though. I used to work with him and have seen it first hand. Even knowing he beats up women hasn't put them off.

There is no way E has 17ozs of milk, tube or no tube. She'll have 16, but then does have milk in breakfast and has at least one yogurt a day so perhaps that counts.

Thanks all for posting your babies current size. I found it interesting how there is such a big difference but life would be boring if we were all the same.

Well we've had an interesting couple of days really. E spent 24 hrs without her tube and coped really well. The only difference I noted was she woke at 5am for a feed whereas she normally goes till 7:30ish. But the heat could have contributed to that. And Im in no way moaning about that as I realise that's pretty good going compared to how a lot of quiche babies sleep. Anyway I put the tube back in this morning and went to the gastro specialist. He wanted to pull the tube out there and then! But he basically said the next time it comes out I shouldn't put it back and try and manage without it for a couple of days. I won't be getting my poms poms out just yet but it looks like the tube is on its way out. It's going to be quite difficult for E and me really to adjust to life without it but bloody hell it's going to be great trying. You've all been so supportive right from the start and I know you'll all be there cheering us on in our new adventure.

It is Wednesday isn't it? There's not been much swearing on the thread. Hopefully that's a sign of people having good days.

I've spent so long typing this there are probably loads of crossed posts so I'll bid you all good night and I'll catch up on thread properly tomorrow.

pass we have a travel cot in the living room but he hates it! Haven't thought of putting him in at night though, we spend so much money on cot blocks and a reflux wedge I feel I'm should keep him upstairs!

kirrin pram is a good shout but unfortunatley I don't have it in my possession at the minute. It's away for repair and possible replacement!

yw j was almost 11kg at last weigh in so wouldn't exceed max dose. He HATES getting the meds tho,it's so gritty and disgusting that giving it twice might be problematic!

He's back in bed after a mammoth feed. I'm away too now!

See you all soon no doubt!

Eliza that is ace news!

Kyz amazing swearing on chasings behalf and I love the golden fuckskates

Izzy I have no advice just hugs

Hugs for vq for your tongue and pp for being ace. Extra hugs for all I have forgotten

Chasing he should go fuck himself

Apparently L was amazing at nursery today when mum took him to her school that she runs. He loved it so now I'm not so concerned about November. Mum looks knack reed though bless her.

I want another baby... There I said it

That was a fab cross post I did mentioning lack of swearing. You put an end to that kyz. What a marvellous sweary rant.

chasing whether every girl in the world fancies him or not, it's completely irrelevant. Try and limit your conversations to being about O. You have no need to know the other stuff. You don't need this extra shit.

pikz hehe...does it feel better now you've said it?

He's awake again. 1hr9mins this time.

He's fed for a good 25mins and taken both sides which is unusual for him. Won't be put in cot. Instantly stiffens the minute you lower him from your arms slightly! Argh!

pikz I'd love another newborn to snuggle but it's never going to happen for me again. It's not nice to think about that fact. I miss my teeny baby.

DH in with J now attempting the transfer again ad again and again and again and again.....

Poor J sounds so angry :-(

Not caught up at all but wanted to wave at Izzy who no doubt needs a hug x J slept until 11.30 and is now back in his cot, which has not happened for weeks and weeks. Hope he stays there until morning.

DH just brought J to me saying he's still hungry. J had only gone and bitten dh's nipple! Lol! He's feeding again... Very odd for him to feed so much and now he'll have more in his tummy to reflux and a not him...

27 mins that time.

Another two wake ups since last posted. Thanks for the hug vq hope your J stayed in cot... That's progress! J is currently asleep on nursing pillow beside me. He's fed hourly since 1.30am and hasn't spent much time in cot tonight. I'm roasting which is not helping how im feeling at all. Oh well back to sleep for a bit....

Awful night here, I ended up giving her a bottle at midnight. She keeps crying in her sleep but doesn't want anything.

kyz love your swearing. O has been on 3 bottles for 2 weeks now and is coping just fine.
pikz me too. I would love a baby, I am very broody.
izzy so sorry for shit night once again
chasing how many times do I need to tell you that fuck them, the whole lot? I will keep telling you till you get it.
eliza great news

Chasing some people are just fucking stupid and they think it wouldn't happen to them. I can't remember who recommended that book Living With The Dominator but it explains about how societal factors support abusers and that means people unwittingly enable them. I'm sure your XP is charming people at work and they see this superficial mask that he has put on and can't imagine that he spent all that time abusing you. You have been traumatised and you're facing up to a new life for yourself. All he has to do is play Disney dad for O and select a new victim for himself. In his head he doesn't have a problem and all these arseholes around him are supporting him because they can't believe what he's done. I have a friend who found out shortly after her baby was born that her boyfriend had married someone else while she was pregnant. She went round to confront him and found him in a house with his wife with their wedding photos on display. The sick fuck had been getting away with having two women on the go and his wife decided to stick by him! Now I took my wedding vows seriously and I love my husband most of the time but if I found out he had another woman on the side while we were getting married and he had a baby with her... you wouldn't see me for dust after I had cut up all his clothes and smashed all his stuff. The people working with your XP can't deal with what he did to you, if they really took it in they wouldn't be able to be civil to him, so they push it to the back of their minds and get on with him. I'm 100% sure the gossip is flying about behind his back though.

Kyz the NHS recommends approximately 500 mls of formula per day to get enough vitamins. 500 mls = 17.6 fluid ounces. The confusion arises because 500 mls is 'about a pint' and a pint is 568 mls = 20 fluid ounces. It isn't an exact measure anyway, it's a rough guide. Remember E will be getting vitamins and minerals from his solid food as well, especially if you're giving freshly made food some of the time. I like Penelope Leach's advise on weaning which is not to look at what a baby eats in a day but to look over the course of a week. It means you don't fret so much after a day of poor eating if the previous day was good. I think timing makes a lot of difference as well, sometimes they're too tired to be bothered to eat or it's too close to a milk feed so they're not that hungry, other times they're happy to use their new skillz to hold on to and chomp away at their food. J has just discovered how to chew and he's loving potato and sausages that he couldn't manage a couple of weeks ago. To him he's learned a new cool trick!

Oh izzy I really hope things get better for you and J soon

vq as it just the one wake up in the end for J?

S had just 1 wake up, for a dummy and that's all. She only had what felt like about 2 wees in her nappy this morning, it's normally bulging. Should I be worried? Does that mean she's dehydrated? She's only on 2 bottles a day now, she has 9oz in the morning and 10 at night. She has water throughout the day although I'm not sure how much of that she actually drinks as opposed to dribbles down her chin.

I still offer 4 bottles but the middle 2 she has about 2 sips and pushes the rest away.

Kyz Shit in his shiny snakey wormy wanker shoes This exact phrase was the icing on the sweary cake. Respec'!

Stunt Unbelievable.

Izzy I hope your dhs nipple is ok! That did make me chuckle, although the standard shitty night did not. I hope the extra omeprazole might help.

Eliza amazing, have got my celebratory pom poms at the ready. It must be amazing to have the light at the end of the tunnel. I bet it seems strange to see her without the tube in, how long has it been now? 3 months? 4? More!?

F is busy causing chaos with her toy box, am all ready for work, just got to wake dh up horn in the ear, anyone?

Chasing - even if quite a few of them do I still don't buy that all of them do. And even if they did, he has no way of knowing that. And the only reason he is saying any of this is to mess with your head. He doesn't want you to be happy. He is a complete prick and kyz had it right :-) try and let it wash over you and please stop letting him have these conversations with you.

And izzy - big, big big hugs

And Eliza - hurrah! It will be scary, but bloody brilliant. You and E are amazing getting to this.

Fruit - no, you shouldn't worry. You should celebrate Less drinking at night means less bulgy nappies. Just keep on offering lots of water in the day time.

Happy Thursday all.

Izzy

VQ hope you're feeling better soon

Chasing in his head, they're all about to come on his command. In his head, he's the wronged party. In his head, you've cruelly abandoned him. In his head, he was entirely justified in his actions. In his head, you deserved it. Trouble is, his grip on reality is tenuous at best so you just go ahead and believe pretty much the opposite of anything he spouts off about.

Kyz

7-12:30, 12:45-3:45 and 4-6:30 here :)

Good morning!

I have cracked and made a docs appointment for P. I know I will end up embarrassed as there is nothing wrong with her but I have a niggle. She won't let anything in her mouth. This morning y breakfast she refused anything at all. She tried to eat some toast, stuck it in the corner of her mouth, cried and dropped it. Probably teeth but she has a cough as well. I haven't been for a while . . .

chasing all these stories are just another way of him controlling you. He knows that even though you are not with him you are thinking about him - next best thing. I agree with everything said about the way people just have to push these things to the back of their minds because to do anything else is too hard. I also believe that people aren't comfortable with the idea that DV could happen to anyone so they fall into a bit of victim blaming.

Oh crickey. Can't remember what . . .

eliza fingers crossed that this is the beginning of the end for the tube! I shall hunt out my special bunting just to be prepared!

I'm going to have to go back and look. I have he memory of a goldfish.

Be back soon.

stunt you are completely spot on as usual. He is an absolute charmer at work, polite, well dressed, good at his job. Everybody loves him. I'm sure they are finding it hard to believe what he did and I completely understand that. He will be playing the victim and getting people to feel sorry for him as I have taken his son away. As for me, it will be a case of out of sight out of mind. Much easier for them to take his side.

Oscar had a terrible night, bless him, but I woke at 6.30 to the sound of him babbling mama mama happily in his cot

Popping back to Northampton today for the 7-9 month check with the HV. Haven't had him weighed since 4 months so will be interesting.

This house has just gone up for sale and I want it so much but we've been burned a few times now trying to sell our house so I don't want to get my hopes up. We already have an offer accepted on this one but then our sale fell through and now the people we were going to buy from are talking about 'renegotiating the sale price' which doesn't sound promising. The one that we really wanted though is this one which is really eccentric in layout and has a huge garden but there are no pavements in the area and I couldn't stand the idea of walking around on the roads with young children and a dog.

No sign of PR this morning yet. All ok, duder?

How's your pal PP? Sounds like a decent night for you as well. Yesterday you put a wee blush after your night description and I meant to tell you off! Don't you be blushing for getting a bit of sleep, lady! How many days is DP working? He'll be knackered I would imagine but what a great step back to normality.

You know, I have just been pondering chasing's issue with the apparent response from people at her old work and the rush to support poor old ex P. it made me think of my workplace. It's a secondary school and as such sometimes the high emotional and drama of teens can be catching. There are one or two male members of staff who sound to me to be kind of like el dip wad (chasing's ex). Mysoginistic, smarmy, not actually that good looking but women seem to swarm like bees to a honey pot. These men have done pretty dreadful stuff but they get away with it and seem to hold some sort of power. Women become flirty, silly apologists around them. Now, I am not saying I am immune to this kind of this but I have a different type it would appear. I have a finely honed dickdar and my intuition is rarely wrong. This means I stay away from these men and don't get into the flirty eye-lash batting. And this has cost me. It has meant I get bad mouthed by these men (one actually had the audacity to say "she would be in my top ten but she is too stuck up - she would never actually do anything") and it has made me appear cold and unfriendly to others.

Price I am willing to pay.

Sorry, that was a stream of consciousness which I am not sure even makes sense let alone adds anything.

I am all friend face now remembering that top-10 story.