Dec 08 - three is the new two.

[Vagolajahooli]

Well it seems appropriate you cheeky breeders.

[Mckayz]

I definetely do not feel like we are complete yet. I bloody better do when/if we have a 4th. I will not being having more than 4.

[ShadyLadyT]

Oh Vag, that sounds horrid. I bet you felt like swinging for the little twerp.

Jam, I worry if we did that the decision would be taken out of my hands and there'd be another one, pronto!

DP says he is happy either way. He absolutely loves babies but worries about money, spoiling current family unit, and above all having a healthy one as I am so old On a shallow note, the thought of the weight gain makes me very mis as I know I struggle to lose it. I am hardly Kate Moss now but as a rather pudgy size 12 I at least look passable and when I look back at photos of myself when DD1 was a baby it makes me feel terrible. Which is a shame.

[ShadyLadyT]

Now 4 is definitely more than I can contemplate, Kayz

I didn't anticipate having more than 2 originally but I knew as soon as I had DD2 I didn't really want it to be the last time. And I haven't been able to chuck out any baby stuff. But that is not exactly a solid or rational basis for having another child!

[JamInMyWellies]

Lady that is exactly why we let mother nature take her own way otherwise we couldnt make our minds up for all the reasons you mention. But the boys are so delighted at the thought of a baby. Lets hope it stays that way once it pops out.

[beans37]

Ha! Lady, your excuses reasons are EXACTLY the same as mine were. And sometimes I still worry for those very reasons, despite being less than 12 weeks shit away from due date. It does keep me up at night, but also from a 'how the hell am I going to cope' perspective. And fear of ruining my perfect little nest I have now. I do so love my girls and we risked it and, if I'm totally totally honest with myself, it's only in the last week or so that I've actually got excited about the new arrival. I think I've been in a state of denial and slight terror about it. But now I'm thinking how much fun we're going to have. Although I do admit, I do keep also thinking, 'this time in 3 years, we'll be really really happy'!!!!

But I am excited now. Especially when I watch my belly contort into weird shapes as the nipper wiggles around.

I'm treating myself to our lovely teenage sitter this afternoon. She's doing the 4-7 stretch for me. Happens to coincide with Murray match, which is a bonus. I would like Murray to win, but Verdasco is very easy on the eye for the next round if Muzzer gets knocked out!!

[beans37]

Am also starting to find Djokovic rather sexy.

[beans37]

Bleugh. Have just remembered I had an erotic dream about Andrew Castle last night. DO NOT FIND HIM SEXY!

[beans37]

And finally....
Lady, look at what a great job you've done with your girls... Well behaved and low maintenance and that's largely down to you. Just think what a great Mum you are and how lucky a third child would be to have you. Frankly, same goes for all of us!

[Vagolajahooli]

Beans you're definitely having a boy.

Ds2 is driving me nuts at the moment. I ask him what he wants for dinner/lunch he's says one thing I make it for him then he screams & says he doesn't want it. This morning he woke me up screaming and whining about not wanting to go to school/swimming/anywhere. He's just whinged about having to have a wash. I love him to bits but he makes so much of my day a trial. And to make it worse I get so aggravated by him all day that by the 100 whine about something I end up yelling & screaming back at him. Ds1 gets upset but worst of all I've caught them speaking to each other with the same impatience that I speak to DS2. I fear I'm making them both easy to anger and just angry unreasonable men.

[beans37]

VAG! Please don't think that. They all know exactly how to push our buttons. I love mine, but they drive me to screaming regularly. And use my horrid words (not sweary, but bad tone etc) against each other too, but they, and yours, are good good children, with a good mother, just a worn down one! They'll be fine and so will you.
Re food, if mine refuse what I've made, then I've reached the point where they just have to go without. It's not as bad as it used to be!!

[ShadyLadyT]

Beans, you are talking me round a bit Thanks for the lovely compliment but I think I mostly lucked out with the girls. Oh blow, put it like that though and I would love another...it would be madness in many ways but in a few years it could be grand.

Still a bit of soulsearching to do yet, though! And it would be nice to get rid of a bit more weight so I start off slimmer.

Andrew Castle?? Beans, your subconscious needs a serious pep talk! Tennis players are generally quite hot though. And I still fancy Boris Becker! I don't usually go for blokes with that sort of colouring.

[ShadyLadyT]

Go easy on yourself Vag. The food thing can be such a nightmare. I do sympathise. Your boys know you are potty about you and if you lose it now and again (as I can promise WE ALL do) well, they will know you're not a flamin' robot. Your boys will be gems when they are men - I say that with utter certainty.

[Vagolajahooli]

I don't know whether he just doesn't listen and thinks "oh she just asked me a question I'd better say yes" & then later he's thinking "why have we got meat balls for dinner I don't want these". Today I asked him he wanted a cheese tosti for lunch he said yes, I made gave it to him, straight away "I dooonnnt waaaannnnnt ttthhhiiiiiisssss!". Then this afternoon we were at the super market & I said "would you like meat balls for dinner, shall I buy some meatballs" "yes mummy", then tonight he acts all horrified that I gave him meatballs for dinner. I'm considering videoing him saying yes to something to play back to him later, but suspect that maybe a little immature.

[Vagolajahooli]

Who is watching the Murray game?

Thanks ladies

[Vagolajahooli]

I'm not seeing what your seeing in Verdasco Beans.

[beans37]

Maybe don't ask for his opinion on it? I always do and it always ends up in a row! So I should learn from my own mistake and just give it to them. I've done it a few times and although they've argued a bit, they generally eat it in the end! Food is such a bone of contention for everyone!

[Mckayz]

I have always fancied Andrew Castle. Yum yum yum!!!

I have stopped asking DS2 what he wants for breakfast. I just dump something in front of him. He wanted cereal and never bloody ate it. I threw so much away that now he gets what I decide and usually it is eaten. Bizarre.

[Rubena]

Hmm don't know vag. Depends on airline. I think it's not really given any extra allowances and just gets included / counted in your cabin luggage etc. but check with Singapore as in not entirely sure. I know if it was a big cello or something it gets its own seat but has to pay a charge.
Yeah that would be what Id panic about - having a healthy child, but I worried about that at 35! Family unit thing - I don't think the children get too rocked. The girls would love a baby and they always adapt. I think it's something you two have to decide yourselves duh obviously rubes I know! But you know what I mean.
Deids I know- I was quite excited selling baby gear on eBay and watching the cash roll in. Guess that makes it clear. Had to book hire car for my brother the other day for our hols and you should have seen me cursing with trying to fit his 3 in a sensibly priced car! But. Small thing I know - just depends what you want more.
Vag ds can be exactly the same! I just say its that or nothin. Then he eats it. Same with dd. but ds way less fussy.
Right must go as at work now.

[Rubena]

4 Kayz. Crikey!

[DeidreBarlow]

I can see the attraction of Verdasco but Andrew Castle

Don't go there on food DS is a nightmare! That said when I look at it over z week it could be worse. Children are sent to test our patience, push our buttons and look too cute while they are doing it!!

[JamInMyWellies]

Andrew Castle is positively a dreamboat compared to who I dreamt about last night. Peter Crouch I mean Peter Crouch for gods sake!

The DS' are bloody rubbish at eating DS2 more so than DS1. Quite often they go to bed having eaten nothing as once a week I cook something that I know they wont eat as I need them to start hopefully at least tasting something different than bloody beige food.

So am bleeding a little again tonight. Tis completely my own fault. Ended up chasing the dog over a field to catch him, then this afternoon I moved a chest of drawers and then moved another upstairs. I took the drawers out so it wasnt exactly super heavy but I guess a bit too much. So now am feet up on the sofa while DH makes dinner.

[Indith]

oh gosh, erm hello. just saw you on active convos.

you are talking about having more babies though so I'd better go again!

[DeidreBarlow]

Jam sit down and please take it easy! But don't fall asleep...seriously Peter Crouch!! The stuff nightmares are made of

[Mckayz]

I am re-thinking 4. DD won't go to sleep and is causing utter chaos.

[beans37]

I quite fancy Peter Crouch secretly (not any more). Suspect he has a big willy.