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November 2012 - Crawling? Already? Uh-oh!

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StuntNun · 24/06/2013 22:05

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PetiteRaleuse · 30/06/2013 20:29

I do get showered, dressed every day, and cook meals. I guess if I was depressed I wouldn't...

MissMummy1 · 30/06/2013 20:44

I have to leave the house everyday. If not then I literally fell my walls closing in. I have always been this way though Hmm

I am certainly not depressed but I do feel a little sad tonight Sad

MissMummy1 · 30/06/2013 20:44

sp feel

PS good luck tomorrow bplp

TheDetective · 30/06/2013 20:53

Chasing I'm glad I am not the only one. I find it impossible to get properly out the house before 11, unless DP takes O on the school run, giving me time to get ready. If I do the school run, 11 is the earliest I arrange anything. If DP does it, 11 is still about the earliest I arrange anything! If DP takes O I'm ready before 10. :)

Or if DP gets up and looks after O, I can be ready quickly. But that's asking too much isn't it?! Hmm

I guess there is a lot of faffing about in our house in the mornings right now. School run definitely messes things up. It will soon be over. THANK FUCK.

What I would like is for us all to wake up at 7, happy and refreshed from at least 8 hours sleep. DP takes O down for his breakfast while I get ready. Then he brings O upstairs while he gets ready. O plays nicely who the fuck am I kidding?! Then once DP is ready, and I am ready, we get out the frigging house. We could be out for a 9am baby group for sure.

Is it wrong I am looking forward to early shifts at work?! So I am up at 5.45am and out the house at 6.45, and don't have to see or speak to any of the buggers Grin. Even if O wakes, DP will have to feed/settle him.

Just the fact that 5.45 makes me want to weep in to my kit kat right now that is the problem!

Ah well, I've done it before, can do it again. It'll be fine.

Evilwater · 30/06/2013 21:02

Hello all.
We all a seeming a bit down, it doesn't help that most of us have work issues. It it the fact that we are all are just recovering mentally, from giving birth and all then feeding issues we have had. I don't know about you but I'm only just getting a breather to realise how much my life has changed.

Just a thought.
Evil

PetiteRaleuse · 30/06/2013 21:07

Tomorrow is day one of part A of Project Sleep.

A very strict routine. DD1 will get up at 7. Oh yes.

Next weekend the spare room bed goes and LO is moved in. We'll get a sofa bed as and when needed. That will free up bedroom 2 for Part B. making DD1 sleep in own bed.

That said, am off to bed. If DD1 is up at 7 that means I have to be on fighting form.

Routine for DD1 (based on her behaviour patterns and what she will do at creche:

Up at 7. Breakfast at 8. Juice at 9.30. Lunch at 11.30. Nap of no more than 90 minutes to be finished before 14.30. Snack at 16.00. Dinner at 18.30. PJs, story, bed by 20.00.

Week one, she can still sleep in our bed.

Week two: in her own bed but with daddy nearby. First days in the room. Then rapid return.

Week three: BED and no complaining.

Yes. I am optimistic

ChasingDaisy · 30/06/2013 21:09

PR when my depression was at its worst I still got up and showered every day and ate proper meals. But I was struggling horrifically inside.

PurplePidjin · 30/06/2013 21:14

Good plan, PR

Wine
BigPigLittlePig · 30/06/2013 21:21

PR sounds promising!

Have a stinking headache, off to bed.

Will catch up with you all tomorrow evening Sad

Waaaaah! Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

kirrinIsland · 30/06/2013 21:28

PR What Chasing said. I have always got up and showered in the morning - even when things were really shit. In fact I frequently stood in the shower and sobbed but I still showered. I guess it affects us all differently though.

((hugs)) to those that need them. it does seem a lot of the quiche are struggling at the moment. I wonder if what Evil said about only just getting a breather to contemplate her new life is a common feeling, hence why people are sinking??

detective I have recently started showering in the evening and then just having a quick wash in the morning, to try and speed up the getting ready process and because my nerves were frazzled before I even started the day by trying to get ready with 2 small people whinging at me non-stop. It has taken some getting used to as I hate not having a shower first thing, but I have to admit it has made life a bit easier.

Passmethecrisps · 30/06/2013 21:28

Boo ya!

Quite the swing of mood in here over 24 hours, ladies.

Things chez crisp have been up and down but happily more up.

We are all up by 6:30 at the latest but we have a pretty chilled start to the day. There are days i don't get showered until late but I don't worry about it. Normally I pop p in her room where she is safe - sometimes in her cot - while I shower. That is normally after her first nap so could be anytime up to 10am. I don't dry my hair - almost never have.

Being a skank shaves hours off your ready time!

I also try to get the telly turned off after the news is finished and we go out every day for at least an hour

Anyway, VQ I hope that this is another step towards finding yourself again.

P is now nomming like a pro. Today's meals were Soreen for brekkie (wasn't fussed TBH), haddock, sweet potato, peas and cous cous for lunch followed by some peach, apple and pear purée and chicken, butternut squash, sweetcorn and pasta for dinner followed by some pear. She always leaves some for Mr Manners and ends up covered in a fair amount but she seems to be taking in a fair amount. Her milk intake was noticeably smaller today. Sadly her little
Tummy waited until bedtime before deciding it was poo o'clock so it was 8:45 before she could finally get some sleep.

Tomorrow I am going to try more for brekkie to try to get a larger amount in earlier in the day

Passmethecrisps · 30/06/2013 21:34

kirrin I also sometimes shower at night. It just helps in the morning. I don't do it often but it can make a difference if I am worried about rushing around.

PR I think that sounds great. And to my completely untrained eye it looks pretty realistic. As long as DH sticks to it rigidly then I think it sounds reasonable.

ChasingDaisy · 30/06/2013 21:42

Good luck for tomorrow pig! don't forget to come back and tell us how it all went.

I am getting stuck for meal ideas for O. Need to get reading AK again.

pidj I would like to see pics of R nomming please Grin

Passmethecrisps · 30/06/2013 21:49

Yes! Nomming pics of R for sure please PP!

PetiteRaleuse · 30/06/2013 21:54

Thanks.

My main worry is stress and stress induced depression. The children's illnesses over the winter got me down. There is also a general fed-up-ness which is due to not having many friends in the area. And I admit to being rubbish at SAHMdom. Really. Crafts? Baking? Lego? Even pretend play? I now, after several months of trying but being bored trying, have to admit that full time mothering, for want of a better word, is not my cup of tea. With one it was great. Having two is brilliant. But entertaining them both? All day everyday? No.

I don't think that's wrong. I just accept that they, and I, will be far more stimulated at nursery.

Now, my job. Not work in general, as I love work. But my specific job is what is guaranteed to turn me into a gibbering mess of tears. On Friday I called a former colleague for advice and blubbed like a baby. Apart from when I have pmt this rarely happens.

Anyway, I'm babbling. Uncertain as to what my inbox will surprise me with this week. It's horrible.

I get depressed with pmt. the morning af arrives I am right as rain. Depression runs in my family, and in dh's. For now I've avoided the worst of it. But right now my confidence, since Friday, is shattered, the prospect of the upcoming conflict is shredding my nerves. One email has broken me. I should have seen it coming, but I trusted that we were back on the same tracks. As I said upthread, every time I think of it is like when you lose your balance. Tummy lurches, heart seems to stop, a cold sweat. I have always dealt so well with stress. I grew up in a massively stressful home. But this two faced spite? It really hurts.

Now I'm really babbling.

I have to try and sleep. DD1 and DH are both snoring loudly, as is the dog.

Night quiche. Thanks for your support on fb and here today. Tomorrow I have battles to fight on two fronts. DD1, and The Other One. Which one will I win first?

PetiteRaleuse · 30/06/2013 21:54

piggy good luck for tomorrow

Kyzordz · 30/06/2013 21:56

Evening all, seems i've missed a metric fucktonne! I'll do what I always do and start from where I left off last, been really busy yesterday and today so haven't been on for a change

Pass I am not awesome, but thankyou for thinking so :) I just whittle on here an awful lot and try to keep positive because, well, the quiche needs positive, especially at the minute it seems :(

Hi Stacks course we don't mind a lurker (do post occasionally though if you can, if you can't tell already we love a good natter). Thomas is a lovely name, my dp is a Thomas :) I'm sorry he has reflux/issues but there are some serious fountains of info on here, along with the most supportive bunch of people i've ever come across. I hope you enjoy our freds and some of the more brilliant people who know their stuff can help you :)

Sorry for the shitty night Detective but i'm glad it's not in the region of ultimate crapness! Dungarees are probably a good way to go for O, like others have said they might take a bit more wear and he won't crawl right out of them, plus they are SOOO cute!

Sorry, keep reading your posts izzy but I've nothing helpful to add :( Sounds promising with the formula though, that J is taking to it slowly but surely

hmm stunt perhaps move the pictures if you're not happy about them being there? They might be dangerous too if he could possibly get to them at all?

brockle clever y! E hasn't even attempted that yet, lazy so and so

vq sorry you're not well :( It's so unfair and the last thing you bloody need. I'm also sorry you couldn't get the rest you need :( And please don't take offence but I really think you do need the rest :( I do worry about you and then I feel bad because I don't want you to think I think you need worrying about because you're not coping, but, well, you do need worrying about. You've got so much to deal with and I think you deal with everything brilliantly BUT it's clearly taking its toll on you. You've had so much crap thrown at you and most other people would be in tatters by now so it's a wonder you're still soldiering on. I hope to be like you one day. And by that I don't mean you're old so i hope to grow up like you, just that I hope as a parent I hope to grow into the kind of parent you are. When I first became a mummy it felt like putting on the worst fitting pair of shoes and I didn't feel like I would ever be good enough for the little scrap handed to me. I didn't know my head from my arse and as E gets older it feels a bit like the shoes fit better, but it's been the quiche helping me and helpful advice from you and others that has helped me fill the shoes a bit better. Sure the shoes pinch sometimes and I have a flap and I have come on here and moaned and whined so much and you've always had something nice and helpful to say and I couldn't ever thank you and many others enough. I am digressing largely but what I meant to say was you are a wonderful person, an amazing mummy and I look up to you and do wish you well because it sounds like you're really going through it at the minute and it just isn't fair :(

bplp what on erf did you say wot got deleted?! as for dp, piss in his shoes

Sounds like you had a fab day chasing that's awesome :D Hope O enjoys his walker :) And if I had read anything about a flat i'd be positively beaming for you but since I haven't i'm sat here just blankly staring into space :P

madame e is down to 28-30 oz, he's offered 4 x 8oz, tends to drink it all first thing and last thing but takes 6ish at the other two. I figured if he wanted more milk he'd drain those bottles and wake up in the night. I think your ds is fine, it's recommended they have 20oz minimum and that counts what's in their food too so I wouldn't worry :)

sounds like you had a lovely day evil :) I have in fact had time to myself! Something magical happened, and dp spontaneously took me to see despicable me 2! MIL had e OVERNIGHT! we're going to see bon jovi in london next friday and she has him then so dp sorted it so we could do a trial run :) E went to sleep at 8:15 and didn't peep until 7:45, which is just fab :) I enjoyed the film and gave dp a good seeing to to say thankyou. Poor sod never gets owt, he works nights so we're rarely in bed at the same time, never mind long enough for any funny business to occur!

name changing ? oh noes, i'll get so confused!

just read through the whole name change kerfuffle with a tear in my eye Blush, you're all so luffly, I honestly thought I mostly pissed you all off cos I whinge an awful lot and go round in circles with the bloody weaning thing and I am really rubbish with advice because I don't know an awful lot about mummyhood and don't feel confident in giving advice. I do love being part of this quiche though and despite not being a people person, and not having met any of you, I thoroughly enjoy catching up on what you're all up to, and I like to think of us all as a big family sharing good bits and ishoos and helping each other where we can. Another group hug? :)

bry hugs, you're another one who seems to do so much and manage so well, you're inspirational and your babies are very lucky to have you. I hope you get some answers with the allergy testing

gt i've had comments too about putting ds on the potty :S

ooh go on pp put a pic on the facebook group of you haven't yet! sorry i've not checked

Sounds like alot of people are feeling like they're struggling :( detective I understand what you mean about being asked the right questions. It's almost like you manage looking after the kids but things for you are just not doable? No time and energy for yourself etc. You sound so bubbly and outgoing, if you think you might need some help even if just with sleep to make you feel a bit better perhaps you should see the gp? Although like you said it's hard because you can't take anytihng too strongly in case o needs you in the night. I'd suggest dp having him some nights and you taking something to help you sleep but i've no idea how practical that is or if your dp would wake to him? I know he's been a bit crappy waking up in the past. Sorry, am probably suggesting stuff you've thought of already! hugs

lol bplp e would say no to spinach i think but i haven't tried yet. I like your 'pear scale', e likes a little butter in his not-so-nomworthy food

chasing i felt totally out of my depth when i had e too, it looks so natural for other people to be mums i just thought i wasn't cut out for it! I feel much more like i can do it these days :) Glad o liked his pasta! how did you give sausage? I haven't tried e with sausage yet

I'm also pretty rubbish in the mornings! I make bottles up once e has gone to bed though in the evenings. I also shower once he's in bed at night time too and i'm really wank at mornings. I find sorting e and breakfast out difficult never mind actually putting makeup on. I still wear maternity clothes because i don't seem to have time to root for something else. I'm in baggy jeans and crappy tops most of the time! I often wonder how other mums manage to look so 'together' when i look like a total mess. I have no excuse either as my baby sleeps :|

Glad to read you being so optimistic pr sounds like a brilliant plan and it WILL work :D

Wow pass check P out, proper nom-meister! Really chuffed she's doing so well :) E has had a bad weaning day but I think he's having ishoos with teef, and i'm still repeating to myself that it doesn't matter :) Tomorrow might be better anyway :)

Good luck for tomorrow bplp :D

Chasing e loves the butternut squash with pasta stars ak recipe, maybe try that for o since he's had a taste of pasta now?

I don't know how you all manage with work. I have no job to go back to after being let go when they found out I was pregnant. It was only a shitty job for me to do after my zoology degree. I don't even know what to do with my zoology degree. I have a pipe dream of being a midwife but there's no way I could do that, so it'll stay a pipe dream :( I'm not capable of such responsibility and stuffs :( Wish I was. Anyway, with that usual comment about me being rubbish I best finish up this hugely crappy really rediculously long post!

TheDetective · 30/06/2013 21:58

I wish I could shower at night! I did give it a trial run. But it was utterly pointless.

First off - the biggest problem. My hair goes greasy overnight. It matters not one jot which time I have washed it - morning or night! It greases up when it hits the pillows!

Sometimes I can get away with a second day. I suspect it is when I haven't moved a muscle in my sleep! While pregnant my hair did manage to go 2 days quite regularly though. Would prefer it if it would do that now...!

The other thing is, it has to be blow dried, or it is, I don't know. How do you describe it? It just has to be blow dried.

I blow dry/hoover/do anything noisy at night, and PING! O is up and awake. If I do it during his nap, he does not wake. WTF is that about?!

Me and DP spend all day rushing around trying to get noisy jobs done while O is awake. Does my head in!

I know it gets easier. Just waiting...!

Oh, and cut my hair shorter. My mother would kill me. I would kill me. I would hate it. I have always had long hair. Could never cut it shorter. One time the hairdresser took too much off. It looked shit. I don't suit it anything shorter than 3 inches down past my shoulders.

BP :( sending lots of Q vibes, and hope it goes quickly. You'll be fine! F will be fine. Bet the CM sorts out sleep and food!!! Grin Funny how they do it for other people, right?!

Kyzordz · 30/06/2013 21:58

oh. my. goodness. epic post. I'm sorry guys :(

and pr you will win both battles, at the same time, acos you are fantabbylous :) Fwiw I don't think it's wrong either, if you think nursery suits you all then there's nothing wrong with that :) I would be a bundle of nerves in your work situation too, it sounds like a horrible situation to be in :( hugs

daisychain76 · 30/06/2013 22:02

Its sad to read about so many lovely people having hard times. l think the first year with a baby, even one without allergies, intolerances, sleep issues and the like, is incredibly hard ~ on you, your sense of self, your time and organisation, your relationships and, well, pretty much everything really. It does get easier (whether that is with or without a bit of professional help) but parents often don?t give themselves the credit they dezerve for just
persevering and keeping on with what can be a daily?
grind. I am rambling, but in summary, you are all stars!

TheDetective · 30/06/2013 22:05

I've decided. Maternity leave should be 1 year fully paid so that we can all damn well have the time we need to recover, and get back to a semblance of normality rather than being forced to pretend we have recovered. And leave our babies before we are good and ready.

Obvs this should be optional! But we should not have to consider finances when it comes to going back to work. GRRR!

ChasingDaisy · 30/06/2013 22:08

det ditto on the hair. Even if I washed it now, it would be greasy in the morning. Has to be blow dried too.

kyz the epic posting is exactly why you are so great. You always respond to everyone and everything, you are incredibly kind and considerate, especially given how much you have on your plate right now. Oh, and with sausages I just sliced one in half and he ate it as finger food. He properly loved it.

Goodnight now quiche. Love you all x

TheDetective · 30/06/2013 22:09

I forgot! For VQ - we I have finally found a way to keep O's cot away from the window. Granted it isn't very far away. But it is the only thing we can do.

When it is nap or sleep time, the cot is pulled out by about 20cm or so. It can't be like that permanently as we wouldn't be able to get in to the wardrobe. But while he is in there, it's fine. Then push it back in once he is out of it.

I've just got to drill it in to DP to remember to do it now....

daisychain76 · 30/06/2013 22:09

Great post kyz. That is why l hesitate posting ~ l know someone will always say it better first Smile. Lily and kitrrin and others who don?t always post (like me!), l love reading your updates. Its great having all these people going through the same journey. Still miss hearing about some posters from the antenatal thread.

Elizadoesdolittle · 30/06/2013 22:18

Evening all, had a fab day yesterday. Went to a friends BBQ and for once the sun shone. I got rid of the kids for the evening part and drank far too much wine far too quickly which resulted in a very very very sore head this morning. It was no more than I deserved but gosh today has been a struggle. DH took DD1 out for lunch and to the park so I could wallow in my crapness. I'm almost feeling human now.

bplp good luck for tomorrow.

chasing I'm glad your day without O wasn't too bad. I hope you managed to enjoy some time to yourself. And I'll be keeping my fingers crossed about your other not to be mentioned news.

izzy It's a tough decision that only you can make. When I was in hosplital with E the nurses were talking about whether I wanted to keep bf. I said to them I don't care how she's fed, as long as she is. It matters not one jot which method it's by but you need to do what feels right for you and if that is to continue bf then so be it.

I had so much to say but mind has gone completley blank! I think I'll go to bed and start again tomorrow....night all.