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November 2012 - The weaning adventure continues

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StuntNun · 14/06/2013 19:25

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ChasingDaisy · 18/06/2013 09:39

GT massive hugs. It sounds like things are really getting out of control now. Do you think this will be a wake up call for him?

YW I breathe heavily in my sleep, but rarely snore. No difference in sleep with him in his own room. You are exactly right, he sleeps just well enough that I think he must be fine, but not quite well enough for me to believe it Confused I am wondering if it is purely hunger so am going to try and increase his food intake.

pass I meant to say before, nap times are a battle here too. If I'm lucky he feeds to sleep, if not then I have to cuddle and rock him into submission. I too find it very stressful. His awake time has increased from 90mins to 2 hours which has helped marginally.

BigPigLittlePig · 18/06/2013 09:43

YW most of my patients are of the, erm, older, variety. So it is rare to find neurotic mothers. I think I have always been quite empathetic emotional wreck and I think I will be more so blubbering wreck in certain circumstances. Motherhood has given me an appreciation for life that I didn't previously get.

BigPigLittlePig · 18/06/2013 09:44

So to sum up, I'll be a wreck.

A wreck with no clue. And these people are paying me!?

Passmethecrisps · 18/06/2013 09:44

O ehm gee BP! Scary biscuits to the max!

Sorry for the pizzalude last night - totally missed izzy's update. Poor wee James and poor izzy. Mind you, thank goodness for responsive paeds and allergy testing.

Glad things seem better evil. I must say I thought you were very relaxed t the thought of worms. I would have had a total freak.

GT I can't add anything to what has already been said. Your DH's behaviour is so incredibly selfish and shows clear signs of addiction - he obviously has no limits and exercises no self-control. Thinking he is ok because he doesn't drink at work is astonishing. And frankly, it sounds like it is only matter of time before he breaks that pretty low standard as well. I honestly believe that your parents losing it is the least of your worries. You have 1.5 babies to think abou as well as your own well being. You can't carry on pretending to them.

Thank you for your nap support yesterday. I left it a bit longer this morning and while she still had a bit of a cry and a leg kick when I lowered her in to the cot to put her sleeping bag on she calmed quickly and snuggled in for a cuddle before settling to sleep.

Today's anxiety is back to weaning. P seems to have regressed after appearing to start to get it. Previously I had fail safe foods like broccoli and toast which she enjoyed eating. The last two days she has pretty much refused to put anything in her mouth at all. She just smooges things in her hands and shudders. I did manage to get her to eat some beef casserole spread on rice cakes. Can I feed her everything on rice cakes? Probably better than toast. She also seems to have gone off fruit 100%.

I am starting to get concerned about her lack of interest. I pop her in her chair, she gets very excited, she gets all oooooo face at whatever I am preparing for her but when it actually goes on her chair she clamps her mouth shut.
Then she starts grimacing and shuddering. Meh

Passmethecrisps · 18/06/2013 09:51

Interesting question yw. I have also found that having a baby has made me more emotional. I'm not entirely comfortable with it really. I'm not a fan of randomly bursting into tears at adverts on the telly or any news story related to babies.

I had wondered if having my own child would make me a different Guidance Teacher. I think I will be different. No entirely convinced I will be better.

And YW it did occur to me that the CM would just fix everything that I am anxious about thus creating a happy napper and enthusiastic nommer out of P.

Passmethecrisps · 18/06/2013 09:54

Oh! And another one here who periodically decides to stop medicating or reduce it deciding that it must all be better now. Doc told me to up P's omeprazole to 10ml. Did I? Nope. I went to 6ml. DH has pushed me to 7.5ml because he rightly pointed out that P smells. I am a moron.

Evilwater · 18/06/2013 09:57

BP you'll be fine, you have the nurses to help you.
det fresh fish should not smell. I repeat fresh fish should not smell fishy. You lot need to come to the SW as we have the sea on 3 sides. I bet you will like fish then. Smile

pass I'm feeling better in my self, but I still have not eaten a meal in 3 days. I know I wanted to lose weight, but not like this!

Me and N are off to soft play, as N has been good as gold and deserves a great.
Evil

YellowWellies · 18/06/2013 10:04

Pass Jonas is on 8ml twice a day (he's 7.5kg) he was off his food totally for 3 days last week - think he was under the weather or teeth - he's back onto it with gusto this week. Don't worry - she'll catch up in a few days. Maybe her fangs are moving?

BigPigLittlePig · 18/06/2013 10:08

8ml!? F is on 1.5 at the mo, I had tried dropping it to 1.2. Twat.

Given her newfound chomping skills, I gave her some dairy free cake. Oh em gee. When camera battery is charged, will get a photo of "cake face" aka died and gone to heaven face

Pass could it be that a flare of reflux has put her off her food? F does this quite often, and once things are settled, picks up again v quickly.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 18/06/2013 10:12

Good luck BP. It will actually be ok. Somehow, stuff is deep down inside your brain. Prob a good idea to locum before return to work? Like a KIT day, a bit of confidence building, a practice run, chance to see that arrangements do work?

GT perhaps this is a wake up call? I hope this enables your DH to seek help he so obviously needs.

luis and izzy so much sympathy for sleep issues.

So last night's row got worse after I posted. We were both vile to each other. I was in no danger though - DH would never hurt me physically. But we were angry, sweary, emotionally abusive to each other. Both cried. I cried a lot. Have puffy red eyes today. Both DC woke and cried due to shouting/disruption of routine. I feel drained and shit. Like a properly crap parent for allowing them to be affected by an argument.

But I am sick of the same argument over, and over again. About how I have all the responsibilty for absolutely fucking everything. Am the breadwinner, work full time, and this will always be the case for me, forever. I am completely in charge of finances and all paperwork, in charge of noticing all the things that need doing around the house, although he will do what he is asked to do, I do all the menu planning, shopping list making, majority of cooking, all of DS's cooking - DH, despite being a fucking chef, has not made either DC any weaning food EVER, he's only cooked for them once they eat what we eat. I do all of the developmental stuff with the DC - I get them weighed, checked, I establish routines, decide when someone needs to drop a feed, what sleep strategy to employ, what to try next, what isnt working and what needs changing, what food to introduce next. I also deal with all of the maintenance and contact arrangements with his exP about DSD, I do all of the instigation of FUCKING everything - we're getting healthy because I am motivated, I have to plan and sort birthday presents, Christmas, or it doesnt get done, I plan all of DH's SAH days to make them easier and better for him and the DC because otherwise he'd look after their basic needs, but wouldnt do much and would then moan about how hard work it is - I plan for his benefit, to get him out and about and get the DC exercised and entertained so they are easier to handle. I spend my evenings - my only free time - planning meals, making the next day's meals, cleaning, packing bags, planning finances, ebaying stuff to make money, then bed. He spends his free time on the xbox. I do all of the night wakings because DH sleeps too deeply.

DH is quite happy to follow instructions, i.e. I notice x needs doing, and he will do it. If I ask about 50 million times. But he has no initiative. Nothing would ever fucking happen unless I instigated it, and then asked it to happen. And then remember it needs to be done, and remember to ask and ask and ask until it is done. I don't want to be the only adult in the household. I don't want to continually have to teach someone how to parent, how to function. Who teaches me? Who tells me and reminds me when something needs doing? No one. And yes, I could stop. But I have to do it all for us to function - if I didnt do it all, it wouldnt happen, and it would be a mess, and the DC and I would suffer from stuff not having been done. I dont know what the fuck to do.

There was talk about cloning oneself - I'd have me and me every fucking day. At the moment I just feel like DH is another burden on me. And I think I carry quite enough of those. I've basically said shape up or ship out. I know I am harsh. I sound like a bitch. But I dont have time or energy to carry someone else, the very someone who is supposed to support me. Gah.

One silver lining - I was so tired and cross and upset that after an hour of rocking, shushhing, patting etc DS, well after DD and DH had gone back to sleep, that I just put him in the cot and told him firmly to go to sleep, and left the room. He cried for 10 seconds, groped for his dummy, and went to sleep. He work for the day 3 hours later, but still. It is actually possible for him to settle himself.

Passmethecrisps · 18/06/2013 10:12

P is 6.7kg and is now on 7.5ml of omeprazole a day.

Yeah, I wonder if there might be teeth or a sore throat or something going on. I will keep offering and try not to get too arse clenchy about it.

Can't wait to see cake face BP!

GTbaby · 18/06/2013 10:28

Thank you for your advice. Still not sure what I'm going to do.

His brother just called. They are doing a head scan to check for damage. will refrain from commenting, obviously he has something wrong with his head

Not able to go to work today so even more upset about whole situation.

YellowWellies · 18/06/2013 10:40

For omeperazole users - our paed advised:

Low dose range is 0.7 - 1.5mg per kilogram per day.
High dose range is 1.5 - 3.0mg per kilogram per day.
Very high dose range is up to 3.0 - 3.3mg per kilogram per day.

YellowWellies · 18/06/2013 10:40

Oh GT Sad

BigPigLittlePig · 18/06/2013 10:57

Thanks YW - I misread what pass wrote, and thought P was on 7.5mls each time! F has 3mls a day. Have been saying it for weeks but I am weighing her today at baby group.

GT ((hugs))

izzybizzybuzzybees · 18/06/2013 11:26

How is the omeprazole administered? Is it a tablet dissolved or do you get the liquid?

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 18/06/2013 11:28

GT Sad

Pikz · 18/06/2013 11:34

GT huge huge hugs. You and2.5 DC come first.

Madam big hug for you. Appears some more DP lessons are needed I these parts from Luis.

BP you will be ace. Like riding a bike non?

Pikz · 18/06/2013 11:34

1.5 that should say

Lily311 · 18/06/2013 12:14

gthuge hugs, I truly hope it's a wake up call and second that you go to your parents.

madam hugs to you too.

We are staying in today. I have an assignment to write and submit ( yep, once again I left it till last min). Also it's 35 degrees outside. This was one of the reasons I left Hungary 10 years ago, I hate summer here. I'm grateful for air con.

Pikz · 18/06/2013 12:53

Anyone else have a very very wilful 6/7 month old.

Proper temper tantrums and stuff?

Kyzordz · 18/06/2013 13:17

Helloooo everybuddy, just put the beanist down for a nap, unfortunately will have to wake him for weigh in but I'm hoping it doesn't disrupt things too much!

Brew for the bad nights, guys

gt I don't even know what to say about your dh :( you really don't need the stress though it isn't good for you, lo or the baby. I agree with pr he needs to stop drinking completely because he clearly can't moderate himself.

Glad you had some success with her nap pass :) I really shouldn't advise you on weaning, I'm such a wreck when it comes to it, but I have done a lot better the past few days and decided all I can do is offer him a variety of mush and finger foods and let him take it or leave it. He has milk and an appetite and he'll get the even if slower than others. Clearly we are not gifted with babies who open their mouths like little birds for anything on a spoon, or pick up bits of anything and get on with it every time. However, we ARE gifted with healthy happy little people who sleep pretty well, are developing and changing daily in such a beautiful way, and have wonderful characters. They'll get there in the end :)

How is p's appetite for milk?

What I do for e is try to remember he drinks his bottles and try to keep something to hand I know he'll eat, for example for breakfast I offered weetabix and did a slice of toast also. For lunch I offered tomato and cheese rice which was super fun but he cannot eat it well, plus rice cakes because I know he can eat those, and some orange jelly cos he loves jelly. You can spread lots of things on rice cakes, and keep persevering. Eric is getting a tray full of spag Bol tonight and good luck to him I say.

I realise my attitude changes like the wind but I'm trying to explain that even though I still worry he won't eat etc etc, he is fine and I know that too. Eric has started to pick back up again after dropping his df four days ago and I wonder if that has any thing to do with it. He also seems to eat better when he has his Lamaze bug toy stuck on the tray, he plays with it in between eating and seems more relaxed. You could try that perhaps if you haven't already? I'm sure in a week he will refuse food again and I'll be back to being a wreck but I'm going to try my hardest not to. Bottles are offered before meals and I am trying to keep everything more relaxed and it seems to be helping the both of us.

Big hugs madame do you think dh will change his ways or at least try a bit more after the argument you had?

PurplePidjin · 18/06/2013 13:39

GT i know how scary it is Brew

R weighs 15lb5 1/2 and has jumped from 0.4th to 9th centile! Shock:o

GTbaby · 18/06/2013 14:33

He is home. So I guess scan is ok. I'm not talking to him so no idea. And ATM. I'm just trying to stay calm.
Lo is being a lil terror n keeps screaming. Just need him to take a nap so I can just have 5 mins to sleep. I'm exhausted.

Just realised I've had the annabel Karmel book all along Blush

TheDetective · 18/06/2013 15:09

Madam. I could have written your post word for word almost. I feel like I have 3 children.

I going to show your post to DP and ask if be recognises himself in your words.

And hope that the message might get through.

I'm the main earner. Always will be. Work full time. Always will have to while children are young.

I need him to use his initiative. These are always the basis for arguements in chez detective.

So no advice. But just know you aren't alone. My mouth was open reading at the similarities.

Pikz Yes. He's been like this for about 2.5 months since he could roll really. Hard work. I'm hoping crawling or walking will see him chilling the fuck out! It did for DS1. Buy I don't remember him being as strong/willful as O!!