November 2012 - Babies' first holidays: India, Australia, the world is their oyster

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

Get the cover stunt. I'm getting darker curtains today as ds wakes from 5. Not hungry, just light so he wakes. Interestingly better when the weathers bad!!

One of the girls in my Nct group has a baby still feeding two hourly overnight. She's shattered too.

The 6 month regression DOES pass. Took us about two weeks. Then reasonably normal.

Did someone pm pr if not ill Facebook her. Actually ill so that anyway.

Stunt that is exactly how I'm feeling. L had about 3 'good' nights just after he turned 6 months & since then he is back to waking dozens of times, needing night feeds etc. Exhausting. Fucking exhausting. No wonder I'm ill. But like you L is only wriggly during the day, night feeds are ok. And I don't know much about silent reflux but it doesn't sound right somehow. Oh I don't know. Sending hugs anyway.

stunt O wakes up at 5 every day. It's definitely the light as he isn't hungry and doesn't actually want to be awake. Only started happening since the mornings got lighter.

Well P looked after O last night and he only fucking went and slept well. One feed at 2am. little traitor Why does he always pull out one freak good night when P looks after him?

Off to walk to the gp in the rain in a bit before a coffee and cake in town and my first time taking O on the bus alone

Am still worried about PR

You're right Horsey, the one later morning was when it was lashing down.

I'm off to the GP with J, can someone please remind me why I don't want Infant Gaviscon for a breastfed baby?

He went back down, then vvvdddp took him downstairs for 1 1/2 hours and left me to sleep. I'm now eating the porridge he brought me (cold!)

ignores potential delays to dp's recovery caused by sleep deprivation

Good luck, Chasing

Stunt Because its a faff to administer 15ml of anything other than BM into a BF baby before each feed. Not crying when lying down isn't a universal feature of reflux or CMPI - look at Dets O. If CMPI it could be stomach cramps keeping him awake at night. Given J's reaction to eggs I'm wondering about CMPI? Better to get him checked than to try sleep training just in case he's in pain?

Blackout blinds are fab. I had to WAKE j this morning (though he had a night feed at 4). There's something satisfying about waking a baby

Thanks YW. If you think it's satisfying to wake a baby just wait until they're 10 and you have to get them up for school... and you have a water pistol! Revenge is sweet.

Heard from pr she'll be back soon!!!

stunt guess its quite a faff !!! Plus it'll not help silent reflux. Just happy little vom babies like mine. Which reminded me!! My cousin recoiled in horror and his sit there, projectile vom, laugh, carry on as if nothing happens. She said its not normal. To be fair, it doesn't really seem to bother him. I have honestly never seen anything like it.

I'm def getting darker blinds!!!

Right people. I am going to jinx myself 100% but there is light at the end of the fucking long tunnel.

Little pig slept from 8-3-7. In her bed. With self settling after her feed. I think you may recall my delerious middle of the night rantings this time last week. Badness lasted a fortnight, maybe a little more.

I am choosing to ignore the fact that she is not 6 months yet. And not even 5 months corrected

Stunt cannot wait for water pistol revenge.
Kyz well done on the veg - shame you had to clear it up again a few hours later though.
Chasing surprise surprise, F was waking at the light. But not since we put the blankets over the curtains. Now I have to wake her if I have to get up to drop dh into work.

Stunt F would happily root around for a nipple even if not feeding properly, when her reflux was bad. She has perfected the art of comfort suckling, where she gets minimal milk but enough that I think she is still feeding. A long feed for her now is 15 minutes. Gaviscon is a PITA and constipating. You would overlook the faff of it, and sing its praises (if it is reflux) for about 2 days, before you begin to curse it as the constipation kicks in.

Morning all,

to those who've had bad nights. Good job I'm not breast feeding really, I'm on my 3rd since 7am.

Good idea vq re the sheets. I'll layer up tonight and see what old sheets we have.

stunt hope you get somewhere at the doctors, sorry you're still having such shit sleep :(

Well done to o lily!

:( pp bet you're nackered :( for you and kirrin and stunt and jj

Glad last night was a better night pennie

chasing that's bloody typical! Good luck with the bus thing :) you'll be just fine I'm sure :)

Well done little pig!!

Sweary fucking weds, woohoo!

Gawd I've been trying to get this post in all morning!!

Stunt like YW said, if you remember, when O was in the midst of reflux hell, I didn't think it was - because reflux babies are worse lay flat right, and if he wasn't fussing or vomiting at night, just in the day, then surely it couldn't be reflux. It was - and it is only now, 3 months down the line that we have properly got somewhere. He definitely had/has reflux, and I'm 95% sure CMPI.

The gaviscon is useful for bottlefed babies - it helps with thickening the feeds so less vomit. I would think one of the other meds would be far better for a breastfed baby.

Just tell the GP he's a bottle refuser, and you don't feel happy syringing that volume down him.

I think he does sound like there are things going on - reflux and/or intolerance. :(

I'm sorry. :(

Morning fuckers.

Sorry for the absence. I'll catch up then explain. Nothing serious. No-one's ill :) I have just had PMT but feeling better this morning.

Thank fuck for sweary fucking Wednesday. Has Luis released the stopper on his bottle of sweariness yet? I will unleash my own rant shortly.

Awwww damn it! I had bets on that you were just addicted to Candy fucking Crush and had abandoned us .

Welcome back . Never go again! D'ya hear!!!!

Bastard fucking candy crush I nearly fucking smashed my phone in anger at the sick twisted fucktards who developed that piece of shit.

I never used to get PMT, and then I had kids. And the last couple of months it has just been getting worse. To the point, this month, that I have just spent three days whimpering on the sofa with cBeebies on to entertain the little darlings, wanting to rehome the pets, crying at the sheer amount of housework onenneeds to do with a messy toddler in the house, and feeling like a big fat fucking failure as a mum, wife and dog owner.

I can't go on the pill as that fucks me up massively hormonally an sex drivually, so I just decided this month I would ride it out talking to as few people as possible in order to minimise the damage inflicted by my hormonal wrath.

Chuck in bad weather, having to cancel my trip to the mountains and a few money issues and it has been a very dark few days.

This morning I suddenly felt a little better, and realised my bastard period had arrived. How can that shitty gift to women be the cure for andncause of the same evil cunt that is PMT.

And thanks for the concern and PMs.

Glad you're feeling better pr you were very much missed!

I don't like papaya. I tried some today. It reminds me of melon, maybe e will like it as he likes melon. Better start today, drank his bottle and has had breakfast. Doesn't matter that it was sunrise banana cereal, he likes it and hasn't yet been sick :)

What are all you fuckers up to today?

Weaning is improving here. Rusks or toast in the morning, plus a spoon of cereal in her milk. Puree at lunch and dinner. Ready made or a pureeed version of what we are eating if suitable. She just didn't like the blandness of veg on their own. She needs her meat and fish, so like mother like daughter.

I will use this weekend to make up some home made chicken casseroles, beef casseroles etc to wean her off Nestlé.

pr I also have my fucking period today, and have felt fucking awful the last few days. I empathise (((hug)))

J has only gone and got a fucking tooth!!! Explains a fucking lot as his reflux is a lot worse. Poor little bugger. I regularly check his gums and it has popped through since yesterday. Little razor at the bottom. He has also scratched his face and made himself bleed despite me being religious about nail cutting.

DD2 was up from 1-4 last night, J woke and self settled at 5, DD1 woke me at 6 to ask me if she could play with my iPad. My answer was not exactly charitable. Very very bad night sleep for me. I am pretty fucked today and J will not nap. But he is utterly beautiful, so I will let him off.

He is also a lot happier since I put the teething gel on. The girls were much older when they got their teeth. From my inspection yesterday I had no idea a tooth was on its way. Oops.

I would like to get some fucking sleep!

I think we'll have teeth here earlier than with DD1, but not for a few weeks yet. Poor J, must be a relief for him to have it pop through. Hope he is easy on you today, you sound knackered.

Ha ha cross post.

O is later than DS1 for teeth. Nowt there yet. I keep checking every couple of days every day to see if it explains the shit sleep, but no!

We've had some success with apple and pear puree this morning.

Can we discuss distractedness? O is the most distracted baby ever. I swear. I was trying to give him some puree and he was staring at his toys in the corner. So I turned him away, and he started staring at the rain on the window. Turned him away again - this time it was the dog. Gave up, and took him out the chair, then he whinged because he wanted the sodding puree! WAAAAH!

He is like this all the time though! Anyone elses baby the same?!