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StuntNun · 09/05/2013 07:25

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

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StuntNun · 15/05/2013 11:16

Jeez, Detective and I yesterday, VQ and PR today, did MM say she was on too. Are we all cycling together?

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PetiteRaleuse · 15/05/2013 11:19

Looks like it? Luis are you on too?

PetiteRaleuse · 15/05/2013 11:20

Detective if you replace distracted with curious you can be smug instead of infuriated :o

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 15/05/2013 11:24

Sorry havent had time to catch up properly bloody work getting in the damn way but hugs and Thanks and sleepy dust to those in need.

Am after quiche advice please.

DS slept through at 6 weeks old, for two weeks. Has never done it since. When I moved to FF he quickly started taking 6 x 8oz bottles between 6am - 7pm and never took a dream feed. As he drank so much during the day, I have basically not fed him overnight for months, just shsssh/patting / rocking him / bring him into bed with me to get him back to sleep when he wakes. Up until a month ago, bringing him into bed with my was enough to get him to drop off again. Not so much now. It usually takes between 30 - 90 mins. He wakes around 2/3am. If shssshed back to sleep, 5.30am is average wake up, 6am is a rare achievement, and we have been known to start the day at 4.30am.

In the last couple of weeks he's dropped a day time bottle due to food intake.

DS woke at 3am last night. At 4am I caved and changed his nappy and gave him a bottle. He drained it super fast and then passed out until 7am.

Do I feed him if he wakes then? Am I setting a bad habbit? Should I try and establish a dream feed?

I dont want to set up an expectation that there is a nice warm bottle at 3am every night, but I am back at work and would prefer a quick 15-30 minutes once, rather than up to 90 mins of shssshing before giving up and starting the day at stupid o'clock.

Any ideas gratefully received.

Passmethecrisps · 15/05/2013 11:26

Lol. There was a woman at my baby massage class who kept correcting me very loudly and crossly when I talked about P.

Me: oh! P you are so nosy!
Woman: no! Curious! She's curious!
P: squeeEEEEEEAAAL IIAAAAAAEE bbbbbttrhhrrrrrrpp
Me: P! You are so noisy!
Woman: no! She is vocal! It's a good thing!

Passmethecrisps · 15/05/2013 11:27

Can I add that all my comments were said in a loving and nurturing fashion. Obv

Passmethecrisps · 15/05/2013 11:29

Ack madam! Erm. . . What about giving water? I might be inclined to try a dream feed - what harm can it do?

PetiteRaleuse · 15/05/2013 11:34

:o pass

There was a French child and baby psychologist, Elisabeth Badinter, who wrote some excellent stuff about having a baby and being a mum, but one of her more debateable comments is that she believes that babies can understand everything you say. From birth. So if you tell them they have to sleep through because mummy needs her sleep, they will try and sleep through. So choice of words is everything.

Personally I go by the say anything in a nice enough tone of voice the first six months school of thought.

TheDetective · 15/05/2013 11:35
Grin

Mine was 5 days late though Stunt so perhaps we are all lining up after all?! Grin

Madam think pretty much the whole quiche are going through similar. I know we are. I've given in and he just gets a bottle after 10 minutes if he doesn't settle - or if it is after 3. I don't want the fight!

Last night he woke as I went to bed - it wasn't me waking him. It was knobhead crashing around the kitchen with pans, opening and shutting all the fucking cupboards. So made knobber rock him back to sleep. He got him back down, but he woke after 10 minutes. As it was only 11.30 I was fairly sure he would go back to sleep without a feed. He was rocked for another 10 minutes, and this time went back down, and stayed down. Til 4, so he got fed then, and he went back down fairly easily til 7.40.

That's the best night we've had out the last 10. He quite possibly would have slept til 4 if dickhead hadn't woken him up Hmm.

I'd like to point out that I went to bed for an 'early night'. So in between DP settling him the first time, and him waking up the second time 10 minutes later - DP was fucking asleep, and I was wide awake, so I had to kick him back up to go to him. I went to bed to sleep, and that bastard was asleep in seconds. God, sometimes I could kill the bastard!

Speaking of which, I'm off to drag him out of bed now.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 15/05/2013 11:36

Yeah, I think that's my conclusion too pass. See if that heads off the middle of the night wakings, or at least rules out genuine hunger if he does continue to wake.

He doesnt do water. I tried for a few nights in case it was thirst. The look on his face was plainly "WTF is this"? He does the same look at mealtimes when I dribble it into his mouth. Grin

TheDetective · 15/05/2013 11:37

Errrr. I do love him really. Blush

DP that is. Blush Blush Blush

PetiteRaleuse · 15/05/2013 11:38

Gazelle no advice. We'e going through a need a feed five hourly at the moment. I assume she is growing.

Se's being measured and having her six month check tomorrow (a month late) and while at the paed's I will be asking the same question as you just did. Along with lots of other questions. Like please reassure me that two weeks of Nestlé baby food won't have turned my baby into a fussy eater...

Etc etc

I'll see if she comes up with any other nuggets of advice re the nightmy wake up and pass it on.

ValiumQueen · 15/05/2013 11:40

madam growth spurt? I would say feed him if he wakes.

pass how was your night? You did not sound your usual chirpy self in the small hours.

Women who work together do tend to cycle together. It follows that we would too.

ChasingDaisy · 15/05/2013 11:44

Hi all,

Haven't had time to catch up yet, but just having lunch in Costa while O snoozes in his pram Smile. He was a star at the doctors, smiling and chatting to people in the waiting room. Seems it is just family he doesn't like Hmm

Oh and I got my period today too.

Hey PR was worried about you Smile Before I went on my antidepressants I was getting awful PMT too so I sympathise.

horseylady · 15/05/2013 11:46

Me me me!!!!! I'm cycling too!!!

madame no idea what to suggest, maybe dream feed??

pass bless p. ds chatter boxes all the time. And blows raspberries.

TheDetective · 15/05/2013 11:50

Shock at my period buddies Grin.

I can blame you lot for my weight gain then?!

Actually, its dropped back off this morning. Now 1.5lb lighter than last thursday, thank fuck. Was beginning to think I wouldn't go back!

PetiteRaleuse · 15/05/2013 11:50

Maybe that's a solution. Would it be worth going on something like that long term to deal with the four days a month when I am that unhappy?

I don't like unecessary medication though..

Which reminds me. I will need you all to hold my hand two weeks today when I am going for a gastroscopy. With no anaesthetic so I can drive myself there and back. Should only last 5 minutes or so, and will give me a chance to ask my consultant lots of questions that I have wanted to ask for the last two years since I last saw him. But....

TheDetective · 15/05/2013 11:50

1.5lb more and I'll have lost a stone!!!!! In 3 weeks. Can I do it for tomorrow?! Grin

PetiteRaleuse · 15/05/2013 11:51
MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 15/05/2013 11:59

PR please feel free to share any wisdom Grin

I am not cycling at the moment, but only because I am taking the mini-pill so no periods thank fuck

ValiumQueen · 15/05/2013 12:03

I am going to look at homeopathy to try to regulate my mood around PMT time. This is my second period since I had J and both times leading up to it I have felt really quite crippling anxiety and dreadfully low in mood. Fucking horrible.

Does anyone find sweary Wednesday accidentally creeps into RL?

ValiumQueen · 15/05/2013 12:05

Ain't we a bunch of fit fuckers? Horse riding yesterday, cycling today.... Or at least that is what it would look like to a newbie.

TheDetective · 15/05/2013 12:05

Yup. Every day. Grin

ValiumQueen · 15/05/2013 12:08

I nearly put in brackets 'not detective obviously, as that is normal' Grin

TheDetective · 15/05/2013 12:09

I find I swear less on wednesdays Grin