November 2012 - Does it seem like half a year?

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Bad night yet again in buzzy household. However I have found a tooth this morning, I'd love to blame bad night on that but it's not related I don't think.

My mum came round today for came round read I had to get kids and me dressed and go collect her to let me do some housework as my houses such a shit tip. She was here from 10.30 -3.45 and there doesn't seem to be much impact made!! I have done 3 loads of washing but only managed to dry one load as most if the fecking stuff is non tumbledryerable!!

Nah we had people come in with cousins etc, toddler age who got bored very quickly and ran riot. I had the bed nearest the door so they traipsed past me every few seconds, kids screaming, parents doing nothing. It was sodding hot too and they wouldn't open the window because they were worried about the other baby getting cold. Meanwhile LO was just in a nappy and vest as she was overheating on day two of her life. Twats.

The other mum was mortified but it was all her husband's family and she didn't feel she could say anything. She gave me free rein to tell them to bugger off the next day when the whole fucking circus turned up again.

School dinners and nursery dinners in France are fucking amazing. No choice until high school but really good, healthy, balanced meals with raw veg or salad, cooked veg, pasta rice or spuds, meat or fish and a cheese every meal followed by pudding, which is often fruit. You can look at the menus for the month ahead online. Compared to the crap I was made to eat in the UK it's really impressive.

That said I do have fond memories of chocolate sponge and chocolate sauce from my primary school days. Proper stodge. Yum.

VQ I hope everything goes ok at the doctors.

LOL at cheese with every meal.

DD1 already eats cheeses that stink the house out and all kinds of shell fish that I hate. LO is proving to be far fussier (not that I have given her cheese or shellfish yet and won't be doing so for another six or eight months.)

Tears and snot at the Dr. I was very angry.

Dr : why are you asking for yet another formula change?

Me : it is not a new formula, it is the follow on version of the current formula.

Dr : but why change?

Me : because he is 6 months and I want him to receive the appropriate nutrition.

Dr : what is the problem today?

Me: I would like him to have ranitidine as the Gaviscon is not working.

Dr : why is he on gaviscon?

Me : for reflux.

Dr : but gaviscon is not for reflux

Me : why did you prescribe it then?

I could go on, but you get the general gist. I started crying when he said he did not want to be pumping J full of chemicals. I wish I was still breastfeeding J, and if he had been treated for reflux at 8 weeks I may still be. He does not think J has reflux, but said the rash on his neck is due to the acid in his drool.

Anyway I have a px for cream, ranitidine and Lipil 2.

And apparently I should not be going to baby clinic for these things. I should see HV and GP at another time. Since fucking when? I was told to go to fucking baby fucking clinic!

I am still hopping mad tbh.

Oh vq that sounds like an ordeal and a half! You got the stuff you went for, well done, really proud of you in the least of condescending ways hugs

Twatty dr

What the fucking fuck ? Your GP obviously hasn't a fucking clue about reflux or its treatment. What a total bawbag. I am glad you got what you need. Have some wine

vq can you see another gp? That's shocking.

VQ sorry that you had a shit time of it. What cream did they give you, out of interest? F is getting one hell of a dribble rash under her many chin(s).

I'm so glad I have had the collective knowledge of Le Quiche when I have gone to the doctors about reflux. I'm not sure if it would have been diagnosed, promptly or in fact at all, if I hadn't read about others experiences. In the not very distant past, our reflux babies would have been labelled difficult, sickly etc - I think the concept of reflux and its treatments is a relatively new one. Thank god there is a solution - I hope the ranitidine works wonders for J, vq.

VQ well done lioness mumma! F*ck the GP - you has the 'scrip now so just repeat prescription that bad boy as needed. Am so sorry for the shite you've been through.

Wish you were local - am getting some amazing support from our dietician and it makes such a difference to my worrying - she's queue jumping us to see the reflux paed, rang up today to see how J was (given his bad reaction to solids) and is getting me some nutramigen tins in to get J used to the sporadic sippy cup of it before his taste buds change at 7-9 months as otherwise she reckons he won't let me wean him off BM at one. I think it helps her kids had it.

Also latest reflux weaning tips - don't start with meals - literally just one spoonful a day for a week, then two, it could be over a month before they can handle one meal a day. Baby rice and porridge can stick to their throats and make reflux worse - so give it sparingly. Papaya, carrot, pear, butternut squash and sweet potato are best first foods. Parsnip too if your LO doesn't have a problem with wind. Apple might be too acidic.

The end of the day has been exciting at Chez Wellies for bad and good - J choked on his meds and proper stopped breathing - it terrified me - I wanted to snatch him off DH and run screaming into the street but he seems OK now.

And a bit of good news - DH's cousin had a daughter today 9lb14 by induction. Ouch.... Felicity - not sure what to make of the name. But apparently it was a vaginal delivery - my eyes are watering at the thought.

BPLP you're right our wee reflux babies would have been dumped at the end of the garden to scream in their prams (parenting must have been a piece of piss).

DH's sister in hindsight was a clear reflux / CMPI baby but in the 70s it was unheard of. She screamed every night for 2 years. DFIL was prescribed Valium to cope no one thought to examine the baby - who was labeled 'difficult' - something which has stuck throughout her life. DMIL struggled to bond with her too again that's still obvious today.

They decided they had spoiled her by giving her night feeds so when DH was born he was left to cry it out, in the furthest bedroom, from birth .Yep no night feeds from day one (unsurprisingly he struggled to gain and was weaned at 14 weeks and has the dodgiest stomach as a result) Because he quickly learnt that no one came to comfort or feed him whether he cried or not - and thus didn't cry - he is still seen as the 'good' child . He's a very cuddly, sometimes almost clingy adult as a result.

VQ I am so sorry to hear of the shit you have gone through to get J what he needs. In the least patronising way possible, I think you are amazing and incredibly strong. I'm not sure how I would cope with what you are coping with. Can you see another GP at the practice in future?

I second what pig said about the quiche wisdom. It really is incredible, YW in particular always has fantastic advice. Even as the mummy of a non reflux baby I am very interested to read about the best first foods to try.

Luis I was getting O to sleep using the 'skiing' method earlier and was thinking how difficult it would be to do with a crooked knee. Hats off to you for keeping going. I hope you are getting all the medical and practical support you need in RL.

kyz I hope your new family member is doing well and you are coping ok looking after all the other kids

Pidj I meant to say yesterday how shit that is about tax credits. I have had dealings with them recently and it has been one of the most frustrating experiences ever. I am often guilty of forgetting what you have been through recently. Again, this is meant in a wholly non patronising way, but is there anything the quiche can do to help?

So, reducing O's second night feed to 3oz last night seems to have had the desired effect in that he has fed more today. In particular, he seemed more hungry this morning. Now to see whether that has any impact on night sleep. Lily I hope you have success tonight.

YW that's heartbreaking . I actually almost cried at the thought of your poor DH being left to cry it out.

I know CIO divides opinion, but in a baby book I have (and otherwise find very good) which sets out advice on a week by week basis, there was a paragraph today about CIO and that the baby will probably only cry for about an hour before he cries himself to sleep I just couldn't do it.

I can barely last 5 2 minutes, an hour would probably finish me off.

Awww chasing thank you.

And err, what is the skiing method?

YW that made me too.

Can't do CIO, even though I should do, to get the bloody toddler to sleep in her own bed consistently. She's asleep next to me in bed. When DH comes home from hockey he will collect her and go into his the spare room. DS will end up in with me after he wakes up to play. We need a fucking backbone when it comes to bedtime, although 2 weeks before my return to full time work is possibly not the time to have. Bedtime showdowns!

Gah bedtime showdown here tonight. 10 minutes after she was all tucked up, wide awake. If she could sit bolt upright, she would have done.

Would anybody notice if I sneakily stole this Fred?

I'm so jealous if everyone whose babies go to bed before bloody 11pm!!!

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