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November 2012 - Does it seem like half a year?

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StuntNun · 19/04/2013 11:09

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1730706-November-2012-The-new-quiche-sleepy-dust-crop-sprayer-plane-seems-to-be-working

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BigPigLittlePig · 20/04/2013 22:04

I suspect the AA is similar to the potion sludge they give people with severe bowel problems in adult life - basic nutrients in their simplest form ("elemental diet"). It is pretty unpalatable, so I'm told. Most adults can't stick to it and end up getting tube fed with it.

I'm trying to build a wigwam for F, I've done 2 sides tonight. If I can make 1 side every night it should be done in a week. Which means our summer will probably be over by this time next week haha.

MsJupiterJones · 20/04/2013 22:14

I can imagine it might be harder to take once babies are a bit older and have tasted the finer things in life but not impossible.

YW maybe just give him horrible food till he's one?

horseylady · 20/04/2013 22:20

*Mm 40-50oz a day here. Plus solids. He's on a growing mission. I'm watching him grow daily.

Sterilising for a year here too. Just because of nasty bugs. Like pass its the teats etc which concern me.

TheDetective · 20/04/2013 22:29

Oh my fucking god. I am a prize numpty.

Random woman talking to me today. Clearly knew me. I couldn't place her, but I figured she must work where I had O, as she was asking about him, and how old he is now. Another woman who I did know worked where I had him was asking when I was going back to work. Explained I am due back in 8 days, but I won't be able to resume because of an unhealed epis. This woman says, oh can't you just continue your mat. leave? Explained due to finances, I couldn't. So she says, well just resume and take sick leave, but don't say I said that.

I've just fucking twigged. She's the head of fucking midwifery. Blush Blush Blush.

And she is the one who I sent that letter to, complaining about the homebirth and lack of support?! Remember?! OH GOD GROUND OPEN UP AND SWALLOW ME.

Will never get a job there now will I? She clearly knew just who the fuck I was!

It's a small pissing world when it comes to midwives.

Clarella · 20/04/2013 23:34

catch up later..... been out..... return...... open bottle of formula on side......Hmm

Clarella · 21/04/2013 00:00

ah lo refused bottle Confused

Lily311 · 21/04/2013 00:26

I went out. It was my leaving do. Had so much fun and I am tipsy. O behaved well, woke for a feed at 11 but went back to sleep straight after. I will miss my friends. So much.

LuisGarcia · 21/04/2013 01:29

May I clear my throat and recognize you have all been through more than this but ask your indulgence for a moment with a wwyd with my knees?

MaMaPo · 21/04/2013 01:44

Wwyd away Luis. :)

Shit night here, made worse by knowledge that husband is having a grand old time pissing it up in Scotland on a stag do.

LuisGarcia · 21/04/2013 01:44

Stand up. Put your left elbow in your right hand and your right in your left. Bend your knees slightly. Ski.

That's how L goes to sleep. Every 2 hours during the day and as long as it takes as many times as it takes at night. I basically have a skiing injury to my mcl that gets aggravated every two hours, 24 hours a day. I know the long term solution is fixing her sleep, but short term, cocodamol was working and my gp agreed and gave me "a bucketload of it". It's less and less effective. wwyd?

PurplePidjin · 21/04/2013 02:53

Diclofenac, Luis ? Also, get a decent support bandage to keep it warm.

Random extra hour on the first stretch, hurrah!

Bryzoan · 21/04/2013 02:55

Hello all - it's been a while - keep catching up. But running out of steam or time before posting.

Luis - you know the answer yourself I think. Your kids need you without fucked knees. So from a completely non selfish perspective you have to stop using a technique that is breaking you. I am sure you have tried everything though and so there is no easy fix. I am lucky in that if I cuddle g after a feed and he is snoozy he will often drop off with bottom patting (especially now I have cut dairy and he seems more comfortable).

Thinking about it, and at risk of sounding like yw / vq is it worth mrsg trying cutting dairy for a bit to see if it helps? Wouldn't be easy being veggie I'm sure but it might be worth a shot? L does sound particularly unsettled.

Either way It will be hard enough for your knees to heal when you aren't sleeping without you doing stuff that you know aggravates them. Pack it in.

On a separate note - how did J get on at nursery? Been thinking of him.

Yw - not sure I got round to thanking you re weaning advice. Sorry - and thank you. That is really helpful.

Mm well done on the feeding in every way. You are a superstar.

Det I am so sorry your bits are still in pieces and so sore. I am sure the head of midwifery will have understood - the fact that you made it to the training shows your level of professional commitment so I wouldn't worry too much.

Hugs to everyone who is struggling. Wishing you all a lovely sleepy Sunday.

Passing - I loved your rant re good babies. It made me howl with laughter - that question infuriates me and I will have to use that response though maybe I'll have to restrain myself when mil's friends ask or she will never speak to me again.

MaMaPo · 21/04/2013 04:32

^ what she said, luis.

Man, we are just awake every hour tonight, aren't we little C? Hats off to those of you who get through this regularly - before now she's only been like this maybe once a week. I am crossing everything this is just a blip again, not the start of something.

Can't stop thinking about conversation with NCT friend - she is in a bit of a bubble with her very routine FF baby - the look she gave me when I said c sleeps quite well and described 2-3 night feeds. She was aghast - hers sleeps 11 hours. I know I shouldn't compare but fuck me. 11 hours! I'd be a different person.

How many more wakes until we're up for good, I wonder?

ValiumQueen · 21/04/2013 04:38

Luis, as Bry says you ideally need to stop doing this and find another way of achieving the same end. I would tackle the sleep using techniques to help LO self settle. In the meantime as PP says diclofenac is good. I would use the suppositories as much more effective and does not hurt your tummy. A support bandage may also help, but these things will only allow you to damage yourself further. Do you and MrsG share the nights and settling duties?

First waking, and first night bottle. This is why I breast feed. Baby cries, leg it downstairs, wait for microwave which takes so long compared to daytime. Mix in meds, leg it upstairs. Baby pissed off as never had to wait that long and wants soft warm boob not sodding plastic teat. Baby drinks 7 oz, mummy worries about over feeding, is toddler awake and ransacking, did I shut the stair gate, the fridge, will baby think it is morning. Settles baby, checks on everything, catches up on thread ( usually done while feeding but impossible with bottle) prays night feeds do not last long. Resents vegan DH who is fast asleep through all this. I know. I should have woken him to get bottle, but sadly this would be even more stressful.

Boob very sore. Still sad about feeding.

Should not grumble as J slept 8 hours and my knees are fat but fine.

StuntNun · 21/04/2013 05:55

There's loads you can do Luis. Firstly, pain relief and anti-inflammatories - Ibuprofen if you can't take anything stronger but a NSAID would probably make a big difference. Try heat packs, cold packs, Deep Heat to help with the pain. Does a hot bath help? Then rest and recovery - okay not so easy with two LOs to run after but you do need to avoid it getting any worse. You will need to start exercises to maintain your mobility and to strengthen the joint. In your position I would see a physiotherapist. You may be able to get a referral on the NHS. If you go private you can always go just once to get it assessed and get some exercises to do.

I suspect J is awake for the day. Hmm Doesn't he know it's Sunday?

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Thechick · 21/04/2013 06:44

I'm not sterilising any of H's stuff. We use formula milk for his baby porridge but just washing in hot water. I thought it was 6 months too!!
Pass I used domperidone and it worked well whilst I was on it, but my prescription was for a certain amount of time and once I stopped my supply dropped, but I dont think that happens with everyone. I'm using fenugreek and its working well. It did stop working for a little while but it's all fine now.

ValiumQueen · 21/04/2013 06:49

Morning all. J woke for day at 6.30 so I dumped him on Daddy and have come back to bed. He is not at all hungry after his feast at 4am.

I have a 3 yo. Who is still asleep. Off to ikea today for her birthday treat as she wants to go in the crèche with her sister and we need to buy her main gift - she has the bottom half of their kitchen, so she is getting the top half. She also has some books and a new lunch box from us. And a tea party with GPs this afternoon. A bought cake for the first time ever - a caterpillar. She chose it.

Happy Birthday to chunky chick too!

ValiumQueen · 21/04/2013 06:50

Creche! Fucking app!

PurplePidjin · 21/04/2013 06:51

MaMa she sounds like one to avoid, except then you'd miss the entertainment value of her second child Hmm

Luis do i smell? Sent you a fr on fb aaaaaages ago Sad

VQ i think I'd kick him anyway. Or at least turn the monitor up, bump into stuff, slam the door etc.

We were up for the day at 5:45. But it's sunny, and i don't actually feel sick with tiredness yet. So it's all good :)

ValiumQueen · 21/04/2013 06:53

The chick, you are bf though. The only things to sterilise past 6 months are bottles for ff, if at all.

PurplePidjin · 21/04/2013 06:53

Re bf supply, oats are meant to be good. Unfortunately dp has interpreted that as needing to feed me porridge not hobnobs...

Pikz · 21/04/2013 07:02

Morning campers! Up for day at 6.10 but I won't moan as he went down at 7.30pm.

The sun is shining, luis get some ibroprofen and diclofenic and rest, ice, elevation! I know least practical with 2 to run after.

VQ I too would have bumped into everything and turned monitor up!

Excited about watching marathon, can't believe it's 3 years since I ran it!

Thechick · 21/04/2013 07:03

That's what I was thinking *VQ. But I wasn't sure about the container we mix the formula milk in for the porridge. It's only in there for such a short amount of time I'm sure it's okay.

Pikz · 21/04/2013 07:03

Oh and I'm sterilising to a year because I'm scared the bastard thrush may come back otherwise and I am rather attached to my Milton bucket!