November 2012 - Poor sleep-deprived mummies (and daddy)

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1721864-November-2012-GTbaby-is-back-Hooray-hooray

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Ingenious vq there is n end to your talents.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

I have just found out what wankbadger actually means!

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

Wankbadger

The dried out remains of a sock, recently used for clean up of male ejaculate.
The greater spotted wankbadger is black with whitecrusting.Wankbadgers are often located underneath beds, and reside in close proximity to national geographic and FHM magazines.
F*%K I've run out of socks, but the wankbadgers in my room seem tohave multiplied.

[kirrinIsland]

lily I used pre-sterilised bottles from boots - they don't take up much room. Or SMA sell pre-sterilised teats that screw onto their individual bottles.

N is asleep for the first time today. This does not bode well for tonight.
I bought formula today - she will have some tomorrow. I am not sure how I feel about it but I need to sleep :(

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

vq seriously now I will stop being silly. You are amazeballs. You are doing your very best being a steadfast and conscientious mother to all of your children. You are investigating every avenue for J to help him be comfortable. This Easter hols will fade into Insignificance for the girls and if it helps I had the same. DS1 had flu so all four children were pretty much housebound for the first week of the hols and I feel pants about it. They have probably had a week full of excitement with their dad and think I am shit boring. Somehow I have to make next weekend the most exciting ever. any tips?

[Kyzordz]

Evening all! Hope you're all ok, have skimmed Fred but need to read it properly or give up and start again tomorrow! I'll try to remember some of it!

Thankyou for the advice this morning, e fed at 10 rather than 11 as he was hungry then, I tried for a smaller amount but he drained 8oz in minutes and then had some rusk got to get away from the fucking rusk! So was clearly hungry. He has not been sick again but has only I know it's not too bad had 26oz so I am prepared for a night waking.

chasing I'm sure he will make up for it tomorrow, see how he goes and if he is taking lots less and you're concerned take him doctors. Has he had less than half today of his usual amount?

pass sounds like a great day!

vq hope the new formula works out ok

det are you singing the rollin rollin rollin RAWHIIIDE song at him?

I know it's been covered but what are the nursery rhymes with actions? E likes to watch but I only remember pat a cake and twinkle twinkle :/

He's been out of sorts again today but not too bad. Sleeping a fair bit and whinging in between but with a cough and a sore head I can't blame him. I cannot believe I have had to shop for 12-18 month outfit for him as he is outgrowing 9-12. 9-12 vests and gros are ok but all in one day suits or trousers/tops are just, I dunno, it's like they pissing shrink!

evil how is your friend?

I forget what else I meant to say, so I hope you're all ok and get lots of sleep!

[GTbaby]

Lily I can't stop thinking about your Q. Lol. I took 6 bottles on plane. Then in hotel put cold water in container with Milton. But seems your situation is a lil more complex.

The pre made bottles with teats r brill. Worth trying? Obviously before the day you go out. As LO may just not like TT teat but might be ok with others?

Take water n fairy liquid with you. But more faff.

Otherwise other then buying more bottles don't see what you can do... Unless you can borrow? I don't have mam ones.

Off to read det thread on traveling.

[Kyzordz]

vq it is your turn to be slapped with the quiche fish. You are a fandabbydosey mummy to all three of your lovely children and they will always thank you for their upbringing I am sure. So they didn't have an action packed holiday, they'll live and they'll always appreciate the fact you are so wonderful. You have not one but three babies to consider and from what I can see on the freds you make damned sure they all get what they need and then some. J takes up alot ATM but he is bound to. The others will have taken a chunk too at such a small age, but just think of the years ahead and the times you can and will provide for them. Currently j isn't quite 100% happy/sorted but he will be and dd2 won't remember having to give a bit of your attention over for her brother. Once j is a bit older and more settled you will feel more with it and spreadable I am sure. I know I waffle but what I mean to say is you're ace, they will be grand because you are their lovely bestestintheworld mummy

kirrin fc for some sleep for you. Do not feel bad about the formula, easier said than done I know but you have done fantastically with N and will continue to do so even if she does have a bit/swap to formula

[ValiumQueen]

Thank you

kirrin please see the formula as a wonderful opportunity, and make the best of it. It may take a while though

[ValiumQueen]

pr I have visions of you drunk in charge of two small children saying rude words in French.

[ChunkyChicken]

Kyz incy wincy spider, row, row, row your boat are good ones. There are less nursery rhyme, more songs; heads, shoulders, knees and toes; if you're happy & you know it; wind the bobbing up. But just singing is good :)

[Izzybuzzybuzzybees]

Well j is feeding just now which may mean an earlier than midnight bedtime!

It's ny friends 30th tomorrow night so I'm going out. Dress, heels, makeup, hair down the lot!! So excited!!

[Donnadoon]

Hi quiche I need some advice please or a wet fish or something
Ill start by saying that I consider myself to be a very ordinary person with an ordinary life, I am blessed with wonderful family and friends but can't talk about this in RL, I have no history of depression or anything and I am waffling now but..... I am battling with an every day fear / paranoia of losing my dd to SIDS
Shit !!! Can't believe I just wrote that.. I feel sick now!!
I never felt a jot of this with my other kids
I just thank god every day for her and pray for the next
The nights are worse as I don't want to go to sleep
We do a mixture of co sleeping safely and in her basket next to me
Any advice would be appreciated and I'm sorry if you can't bear to engage in this subject
I just can't get past this overwhelming fear
Thank you sob

[StuntNun]

I think it's normal to worry Donna. I have a baby monitor with a sensor mat and I still check up on J to make sure he's still breathing. If your anxiety is getting out of hand then maybe you should talk to your GP about ways to cope with the anxiety. There will always be something to worry about with children so IMO it would be best to deal with it up front.

[StuntNun]

Don't forget the new fred www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1730706-November-2012-The-new-quiche-sleepy-dust-crop-sprayer-plane-seems-to-be-working

[Izzybuzzybuzzybees]

Aaw Donna sorry your feeling so worried. There's not much I can say to put your mind at ease but I will say that I think its a perfectly normal fear for any new mum. We are surrounded by reports upon reports of SIDS deaths these days. As long as you are following all the current guidance it is extremely unlikely that any harm will come to your baby. I was very worried about this when my daughter was born and found that a movement monitor, the one with sensor mat, was a godsend. I knew it worked and would alert me almost immediately if she was to stop breathing. It helped me relax and sleep. We are now using the same monitor for our son. Is that something you would consider?
Other than that have some no wet fish required!

J has fed and is asleep. I am going to attempt same! Need all my energy for night out tomorrow!

[Donnadoon]

Thanks Stunt I just can't get past this ache in the pit of my stomach that she is not mine to keep
I should buy a mat and yes will think about seeing GP

[Donnadoon]

Thanks Izzy

[Donnadoon]

Any recommendations for brand of mat please?

[Elizadoesdolittle]

lily I have a mam bottle that E has never touched. One of my many unsuccessful purchaes in the quest to get E to take a bottle. You are welcome to it. When are you travelling?

Donna I'm sure there are many mothers (and probably daddies too) that feel the same as you. It is a subject that isn't spoken about I guess due to the fact it is such an emotive subject. Parents don't want to think about it so it gets brushed under the carpet. I am much more nervous about E at night time as I ever was about DD1 which is a bit weird as you'd think I would have been more worried about my pfb. However I am so parnoid about E's tube getting wrapped round her neck in the night. It's awful. Having said that I have no trouble sleeping so can't obviously be that worried I don't want to give you a wet fish slap as it's a very worrying thing you are experiencing. I'm glad you've mentioned how you are feeling. I have no advice and am really waffling now. I just didn't want to ignore your post. Hopefully one of our wise quiche members who put things more eloquently than me will be a long to reassure you and make you feel better.

vq You are ace, that is all.

Only briefly skim read. It's getting late and I keep saying I should get to bed early but never manage it! Hope there good nights all round.

[kirrinIsland]

Thanks kyzordz and VQ I think DP is expecting formula to solve all sleep problems just like that, whereas I am just expecting to be able able to hand her over to him for a bit and go to bed for a couple of hours! I am hoping it might help with day time naps though. It just feels a bit selfish :(

And VQ You are a never ending support on this thread and that's to a bunch of strangers so I can only imagine how loved and supported your kids feel.

Donna I'm not at all knowledgable about things like that, but could this be some sort of PND? Perhaps a trip to your GP or HV might be a good idea? ((hugs))


I'm about to attempt the first transfer of the night. Hope you all get a good nights sleep.

[Elizadoesdolittle]

AH good, have crossed posts with wise quiche members. donna I don't actually have one but have heard the angelcare monitor with sensor mat is really good. I have a video monitor which once E is in her own room I will use. I found it helped that I could see DD1, but of course they are very still when asleep so I think in your case a sensor mat will be better.

[kirrinIsland]

Well, that went well! Instant fail on the transfer - woke immediately. Latched on and went straight back to sleep. I'll give her 10 minutes and try again.

[LuisGarcia]

{{Kirrin}}

[kirrinIsland]

Thanks Luis How is L's sleep at the moment?

Second transfer fail. But at least she's feeding now. Perhaps she'll fill herself up and then sleep til 7??