October 2012 babies - over here nobbers!

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This really will be the thread where all our babies start sleeping through the night... right?!

beeble- yes they really are all that dense!

I agree with no strangers on facebook, I know I share photos happily but I have never said my real name on here and don't like the two being connected by people I don't "know".

yes me too- I've never said my real name out my baby's name and I never post photos on here. am only happy with the fb group if I know it's just you lot! I'll send kyyria a message.

maybe one of us could volunteer total a joint admin or something to take the load off kyyria as she's so busy? that way ppl wanting to join group can pm the admins with their real names and be added? I'm happy to volunteer but may need a bit of a tutorial on how it all works as I don't have a clue

*total = to be

Just ran my first 5K since giving birth!! It felt amazing!! I'm so proud of myself :)

Yomping no suggestions re what's the matter - perhaps NHS 24 would be helpful (even if all they suggest is giving calpol) - I found the nurse really helpful when Erin wasn't well and she then made an appointment for us to take her to be checked by the out-of-hours surgery (as was 2nd Jan). Both my midwives and the doctor I saw were very encouraging about seeking medical help if I had any concerns as the practice were always happy to check out babies so young. I certainly felt better after Erin was examined.

Hi all, can I join you?

DD1 was born on 23rd Oct, I have just come on mumsent to get some advice on oversupply but discovered you guys and would love to join this journey with you. As this is number 1 I probably won't be very helpful but I can share what we are up to.

DD is doing well, growing averagely and seems to be developing hand use etc ok. We have our first swimming lessons on Wednesday, she loves her baths so think swimming should be a hit.

So sorry for those of you with boob problems, mine are producing far too much at night, expressing 6-8oz every morning at the moment :( my freezer can't cope with much more! If any ones got any tips on reducing it would be much appreciated.

On the topic of routines, we have none...none what so ever!! Sleep varies from 3hrs to 7hrs stints at night, and she normally manages 2 short naps a day with a bit of convincing.

Hope you don't mind me invading...

Happy 2013 to you all

hello cookie! Your sleep sounds very much like mine although occasionally dd likes to do the same thing 3 nights in a row just to lull me into a false sense of security...

If you persistantly have too much milk have you considered donation? Our local hospital is always after people with babies under 6 months but you have to contact them first to get their containers to express into. Just a thought but I'm sure you'll find some good advice on reducing oversupply on here, there are some very knowledgeable bf peeps.

We were supposed to go to our first swimming lesson today but the pool boiler is busted so its cancelled . Better luck next week maybe!

bloody hell got my period that explains my mood over the last few days then! didn't get it until ds1 was 9 months old, this is bloody unfair (no pun intended...)

CookieMonster, welcome - another one with oversupply issues here. Have you tried block feeding to reduce supply? Loads of info online about it, I was up to 8 hour blocks at one point. Also antihistamines can affect supply (usually a bad thing but great if you need to reduce it) as can some types of contraceptive pill I think. Kellymom website is good source of info too.

Mini Y seems much better this morning although last night was one to stick firmly in the "thank fuck that's over" category! Thank you Wooly and Katla for your advice - my gut instinct was that something internal was bothering her (well duh!) but it wasn't serious enough to need medical attention. She is much more settled (and very sleepy ) today so whatever it was must have worked its way through. I'm living in fear of the next nappy!

Crazy, that sucks, sorry to hear that .

Can I offer a big apology for the fact that all I seem to post these days is moans, whinges and requests? Getting Mini Y's tongue tie sorted has led to much better feeding and I finally felt like we were getting somewhere and things would be easier, but they are not, they are really fucking hard at the moment due to the ongoing faff of giving Colief at every feed, having a bit of a cold/cough, trying to treat a blocked duct, teething, very patchy nighttime sleep, and I think we have hit the 12 week growth spurt early - all of these would be OK but mini Y is still a total velcro baby so I can't put her down in order to get a break, and she will only sleep on me so I can't sleep in the day when she does, and she still spends a good amount of time crying and needing consoling and rocking, most evenings.

I knew it was going to be hard and I was up for that but I didn't realise it would this... relentless . I feel really down, and I'm not enjoying much of it right now, in fact when I think about it I really haven't enjoyed much of it at all since she was born, but I have been too busy/stressed/angry/worried/exhausted to acknowledge that. It makes me really sad that I have a beautiful 11 week old baby girl who lights up my world every time she smiles at me, but I feel unhappy a lot of the time because it's still so demanding and there's no time for me. DH can take her out for a bit but he can't feed her (don't want to risk trying her on a bottle and haven't trained her to take from sippy cup yet) so he can only be out with her for a maximum of 2 hours at the moment and she is often screaming frantically when he brings her back so I feel like it's not fair on her to be taken away if it upsets her that much. Gah. Shit, bollocks and nobbing nobbers! Smeone slap me round the face with a wet nappy kipper! Taking my miserable self off to mope somewhere else and will come back when I am capable of supporting others and celebrating their achievements instead of just wallowing in self pity.

yomping I'm so sorry you're feeling this way. I felt very down for a good few weeks at the beginning and guilty for not enjoying my baby. Like I was ungrateful whilst being so lucky to have a beautiful healthy baby. Going to the doctor and getting help was the turning point for me and now I feel I'm doing so much better. Not that I'm saying you need medication like I do but maybe you should go back to your doctor and talk to them again? Sending you hugs.

Yomping, thank you for taking the time to reply when you have so much going on, I will do some research on block feeding. I guess that is what I am doing at night without knowing it. I'm so sorry I can't help you in the same way

Wooly, if the problem persist I will definitely look at donation, it would be amazing to help out we had some amazing nights sleep over Christmas, 11 to 6 but now we are back to waking every 3hrs just keep trying to recreate the conditions but it doesn't seem to work.

cookie welcome! and if you have oversupply problems perhaps best not to express?

yomping don't worry about offloading here. it sucks that you're finding it so hard but that is what we're here for, after all. and then when you start to find things more enjoyable we can celebrate with you.

I have my period and there's no chocolate in the house. talk about hell on earth.

Hello all. Blimey, waaaay too many posts to name check.

I just wanted to pop by to report that we've really turned a corner with DD. weeks 3-9 were awful; unutterably bad colic left me feeling depressed. When she started teething at week 9 I honestly felt despair.

This week has seen a huge change. She still has a bit of a melt each night bit it's an hour of fussiness rather than hour after hour of screeching. She is calm and smily much if the time. Now I can hear myself think in grateful for what a fabulous sleeper and eater she is - something I couldn't appreciate before.

I know this could all change but for now I just wanted to take sometime to give thanks.

hi cookie, oversupply here too. I looked into donation, but they don't make it easy. you have to have lots of tests etc and also they insist that milk is frozen in their containers so you can't donate the stock you have in your freezer.

try not to express unless you absolutely have to. the only problem with that is that they may never get emptied and you risk getting blockages. bit of a vicious cycle isn't it?
I'm producing about an extra 200ml per day more than my baby needs. I figure it's good to have the freezer well stocked in case of emergencies!

yomping, this too shall pass. everything changes in such a short space of time with babies. you will be fine even if it sometimes doesn't feel like it. please try to stop feeling guilty for feeling like this.

crazy, got my bastard period a couple of weeks ago too. did try using a tampon but my bits haven't completely healed so I felt like I was laying an egg.

Hey nobbers

Well I had an amazing morning and tried my first 5K run and managed it really comfortably on a beautiful sunny day along the river - ace.

Rest of the day was crap - boyfriend shouted at me because he was stupid enough to leave our changing bag on the road by our mate's house yesterday (he always shouts when he's been stupid, and I am very bad at being shouted at)... so I was low, he was guilty, we went out to a village in the Peaks anyway cause that was the plan, Jess screamed as soon as we ordered lunch, I watched boyfriend fail to settle her for about 30 minutes which sucked, eventually I settled her to sleep, then just as we were about to come home she did the hugest poo-nami we've had yet, soaking through all her clothes, my clothes and the sling. We were in a car park nowhere near any toilets so had to strip her off in the car boot and change her best we could - she screamed and screamed and I felt horrible for changing her in the cold but I couldn't leave her like that.

So I cried and then we came home and me and jess went straight in the bath together and then to bed to do feeding and skin to skin. Boyfriend is skulking around looking guilty and probably going to cook - I don't feel like getting out of bed.

Blah, I felt so amazing this morning too. Oh well, tomorrow is another day!!

yomping you've been having a rough time of it lately and please don't apologise. I feel bad that I sometimes come on here and talk about me when I could be more supportive - this board does move so fast mind!

It is extremely hard to "enjoy" a baby when they are screaming at you - it's not their fault so you can't be mad either!! I find this bit of parenting tougher than the feeding and the sleep and everything. It really is a short time compared to their whole life though - it's really hard to feel that way when you're in the middle of it - and it won't impact on running through puddles with Alice when she's 2 or watching her cock up nativity lines when she's 6 or being horrified that she wants to shave her legs when she's 12... etc etc

For now you just need to go easy on yourself and know that it's ok to not enjoy the hard bits, and you've had pretty crap luck really, with a tough birth and tough tough feeding issues (which you are dealing with heroically). I think you do always sound positive about Alice, anyway -- just the poor mite is hard work!

Now, are you going to do a table of mn-ers/names/babies/locations for us? What about ages, jobs, other children and favourite colours? LOL

Bora fab to hear you're enjoying things at the moment, I love hearing peoples happy news! The smiling and cooing is so great, isn't it.

crazy and londonmrs I got a (very light) period at 8 weeks and then not had anything since (now 14 weeks). Odd.

Thank you Crazy and LondonM I will try tonight feeding from both sides and not expressing in the morning and we will see what happens, fingers crossed for happy boobs in the morning!

Nothing on the period front here and DD is 11 weeks, long may it continue! I feel bad for those dealing with period and baby hormones

Yomping rant away. No advice for you, only unflinching support and sympathies. I think our motto for group really should be
This too shall pass

Tho when the shit hits fan we struggle to think that. Hugs

Londonmrss laughing laughing laughing at laying an egg........!!!!

That is all.

X x

No period here at 10 weeks, fingers crossed.

Yomping sorry to hear you are having a hard time. I realised somewhere along the line with DS that there is no magical 'cure'. It is easy to hang all your hopes on having the tongue tie fixed, or weaning, or sleeping through or whatever the goal is at that moment, and while each of those steps makes things little easier in some way, no baby will magically go from horrible to lovely overnight. I found it much easier to cope when I accepted that it will always be challenging and looked for coping stratagies rather than waiting for it to be over.

Thats not to say it's always this hard either though. It comes in waves I think. DS will plod along for few weeks then he'll hit a new phase and I have to adjust, things will get better again and back round we go.

You need coping stratagies and support for the down times, and most people find the newborn bit very very hard so this is NORMAL. One of my coping stratagies is to go out every day. Being in the outside world puts the difficult moments into perspective, they become just one part of my day rather than being consumed by it. I also go to a mum and baby group (I know some people hate these), where I can see that everyone else is in the same boat (some are having a harder time). In the past I have taken antidepressants to get me through a really stressful time in my life. Whatever works, do it.

HTH, sorry for rambling

Sometimes I really do think DS must be related to an owl given the way he seems to be able to swivel his head practically 360 degrees when feeding...

Wantanorange what brilliant advice, you are such a great support on here. By the way have been meaning to say I loved your story of how you got together with your dh. I'm sure it wasn't easy at the time but it was such a positive story. It will be so nice for you in the future to have someone you have known for so long.
yomping really don't apologise. I don't feel like you're whinging, it sounds like you have a lot to cope with and you are throwing all you've got into being the best mummy you can be. Your little one is very lucky to have you.
squid well done on the 5k! I walk that most days and am exhausted. I find myself constantly bickering with my poor darling husband at the moment, mostly because its me doing/not doing stuff or forgetting things then snapping at him then feeling like crap. Hope you patch it up soon.
cheesy it's great to hear you sounding so upbeat!
Congrats on the house londonmrss
Welcome cookie my ds was born on the 24th.

So our 8 hr sleep was a one off it seems. Back to feeding every 2-3 hours again. I'm on my knees with tiredness. Just said goodbye to my cousin and realised she is our last visitor for ages... Thank god! We've only had about 2 full weeks without someone staying sins Smorglet was born No wonder we can't get into a routine. Tomorrow I'm going to my first bébé cinéma to see wuthering heights. Today I visited a town called Fanjeaux (pronounced fanjo). I sniggered in a very childish way.