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Smorgs · 02/01/2013 19:36

This really will be the thread where all our babies start sleeping through the night... right?!

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Orenishii · 20/01/2013 10:09

See I'd be willing to pay for DS to be educated in a different way, with a different approach, one that isn't centred around shoe-horning everyone into the same type of learning. It's not about paying for a better education and therefore buying better academic results, for us it's about paying for a different approach that might suit our child in a way that mainstream education would be adequate but not best.

Having said that, DH's cousin is an academic in child development and she pulled her child out of their Montessori school, and placed her in the local mainstream school because she felt that they were actually closer in philosophy to Montessori than the actual Montessori-approved school! So clearly it's not as cut and dried as just sending the child to a "Montessori school" and certainly, if a local mainstream school demonstrated ideals and practices that we felt worked, that's a definite possibility over a school that is just called Montessori.

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BoraBora · 20/01/2013 10:12

Yeah, I guess I'm comparing the local Montessori nursery to the other two nurseries near me. The Montessori is £1500pcm, the others are £1200pcm.
Its all horrifically expensive (and you need to be on the wait list asap). In that sense, living in London is elitist.

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BoraBora · 20/01/2013 10:13

Oh, and when will my hair start falling out? My hair is so thick, I can't wait to bloody shed some!

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Londonmrss · 20/01/2013 10:15

I would pay for schooling but I'm against privatisation in every form. Apart from when it comes to Thatcher's funeral- that should definitely be privatised.

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Orenishii · 20/01/2013 10:18

Bora I'm just about ready to shear my bloody hair all off! The cat is obsessed with it, DS grabs at it, and the central heating makes it all fly-away. GRRRR!

Angelico 17 weeks!!! Hope you feel better very soon but 17 weeks is so exciting!

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Angelico · 20/01/2013 10:56

Bora / Oren - I have thick hair too. When yours starts to fall out you will REALLY know it lol! I washed my hair one night last week and with specs off I swear it looked like there was a mouse in the bottom of the shower :o

Thanks Oren it is exciting :) She's so funny, every couple of days she does something new, gets all excited. Her latest trick is holding some saliva at the back of her mouth and 'talking' in an awful, hissing, lizard burble, then cackling to herself. And Huffle she also thinks burps are hilarious not that mummy ever burps that would be unladylike sniggers - in the throes of D&V I fed her in a lull. Burped loudly and she popped off boob, stared up at me with Shock eyes, then laughed hysterically :)

Urgh, what I can eat??? Feel hungry AND sick at the same time.

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hufflepuffle · 20/01/2013 11:54

Poor Angelico, hope u feel better soon. It's so bloody exhausting that. Can't believe bean is 17 weeks!! Time flying!

I've never heard of Montessori. Don't know if there are any here? I truly believe the NI education system is fantastic and bad schools are few and far between. We hope to use the preschool of our primary as I they are both really brilliant. I don't really want our children to be very different. I think home morals and upbringing are the most important thing and we will hope to encourage a love for school and learning. That's as far as we have analysed it or intend to. But I guess life in NI is different as communities are much smaller.

Just given myself an Elemis facial while DS slept and I feel fab! Used to do twice weekly. Think last time was about 6 months pregnant.

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hufflepuffle · 20/01/2013 11:56

And I am still loving my hair. Please please let me keep it, I think I deserve it.

Grin Grin

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hufflepuffle · 20/01/2013 12:05

Sorry that wasn't meant to sound dismissive of education choices. Obviously it is very important and we all have different approaches. As I say, I just don't think it exists here.

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crazypaving · 20/01/2013 12:12

angelico your dd sounds hilarious!! Grin get better soon, poor you Sad a bit of toast? dry cereal? not sure what to suggest. I never lose my appetite Grin

SLEEP REGRESSION here. literally a motherfucker. waking up every 90mins - 2hrs, alert and not wanting to feed or sleep. I am on my knees. hurry up and bugger off.

hair falling out like mad here. find it wrapped around ds2's neck, in both boys' nappies, just everywhere all the time. takes me ages in the shower just to get it all out of my nooks and crannies Blush

on the great childcare debate, I wanted ds1 in as homely an environment for as long as possible if he couldn't be with me. our childminder is lovely and is like a surrogate family for him, sort of. he starts in a very local and excellent preschool in Sept. the one in our village is pants. the same woman has been running it for centuries decades, very stuck in her ways and is not going anywhere. I think those who send their child to local school to get involved and improve things are admirable and better people than I. I just want my children to have best possible education and opportunities.

ds2 has his 4th infection, in 15 short weeks Sad that's more than one a month for his whole life Sad Sad hacking cough and streaming cold again. poor little sausage. no wonder his weight is crap. having said that, we finally cracked out the 3-6m babygros (ds1 was in them at 5wks!! how different they are...) to find he's too long for them! not sure what to do - fairly sure he'll be swamped by 6-9m ones and I really can't be arsed with actual outfits. bugger.

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Orenishii · 20/01/2013 13:04

OK right so, the fug is over! Had a breakfast of salmon, pak choi and cashew nuts, and a lunch of poached eggs and spinach. Paleo is ON! Toe drills done, wrist drills done, achieved press ups, squats and 10 seconds of a plank. Something to build on. No more sweets chocolate, bread, cereals, oats. I've had three months of eating crap, feeling crap, doing crap and I feel like an old woman. Boo hiss to that.

crazy the sleep regression sounds so harsh, massive sleep vibes for your baby! Poor DS2 and his infections :( Hope he gets better - and stays better - soon!

huffle what is this Elemis facial of which you speak?

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smileyhappymummy · 20/01/2013 13:58

crazy sounds like our babies are up to the same tricks - every 2 hours or less for us as well overnight, though she did consent to feed most of the time. Hope it improves for you very soon! Highlight was when she caught sight of herself in the mirror and gave te most enormous chuckle - didn't help her settle but did make it all worth while!
Exercise here remains limited to dance game on the Xbox - at least it's a start and dd loves the bright colours and mummy dancing like a loon. I have bought new jeans though which is quite exciting - liking wearing clothes without a stretchy waistband after all this time.
We are planning to use a small friendly nursery for childcare. Not perfect but what is? Finances mean that being a sahp isn't really an option for either of us and if I'm honest with myself I think I would struggle being at home 24/7 for years and years.
Enjoyed te snow here - baby has now been sledging! Very cute.

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CookieMonster88 · 20/01/2013 14:13

Mickey, when I have flown with the wee one they haven't counted the sling as an item, and the two airlines I have flown with have been very good for what you can take. I have taken sling and changing bag on the plane, with car seat and pram in the hold for no extra change. With BA she would get a hold bag too, but with easyjet you have to pay £20. HTH

On the nursery front, we looked at a few and decided on the one that a) was full of local kids so DD had familiar faces in primary school and I could get to know more village mums, and b) that shared our home principles, like spending as much time outside come rain or shine and allowing DD to explore the world. Just had to look up Montessori was Hmm feeling like a bad parent!

Also, now feeling bad about how small DD is, at last weigh in before Christmas she was sat on the 50th percentile but is still in some newborn and lots of 0-3month old bits at 13 weeks. Her 3-6month suits are far to big Hmm seems she's the odd one on here and at baby group.

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hufflepuffle · 20/01/2013 14:20

All different sizes Cookie, bet none f us ladies are the same size or exhibit 'normal' characteristics!!

Orenishii I love skincare, has been a self indulgence for about last few years. I hav v sensitive skin tho so I need to be kind! Today I used Elemis papaya enzyme peel, gorgeous non granular exfoliation, followed by exotic cream moisture mask and absolute eye mask, then some skin bliss capsules, some serum and my pro collagen moisturiser.

Obviously I have nothing better to do!???!!

I am now however at work prepping for tomorrows interviews whilst DH continues to practice SAHD. Today this is taking him out in car to get him to have decent sleep! Confused

Back to work!

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OctoberOctober · 20/01/2013 14:22

Mickey we used along for airport with ds1 and it really was the best option rather than pram whilst they are so small, and no it didn't count as any sort of luggage!

DS2 sleeping seems to have regressed here too, now waking once in the night rather than sleeping through. I know that isn't bad compared to a lot of beans but finding it a bit of a killer after proper sleeps for over a month. It has been last 3 nights, hopefully not a pattern at 13 weeks.

Hoping that ds1 nursery will be open tomorrow after early closing on friday, all going a bit stir crazy inside. DS 1 hopefully burning off some energy outside with Dp now.

Periods - still no sign of them, and whilst not complaining I'm surprised given I'm ff. Anyone else ff and seen aunt flo yet?

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crazypaving · 20/01/2013 14:44

mickey sorry missed your question about flying. just flew yesterday so fresh in my mind! slings definitely not extra item, carry for free. easyjet you pay £20 each way for baby but get no luggage allowance for them. carseat and buggy free in the hold. hope that helps!

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lisbethsopposite · 20/01/2013 15:47

another here whose sleep went from 1/2/3 wakes to constant wakes. Sad
Paul escapes swaddle and wakes himself scratching or my cough wakes him or his cough. I am knackered Angry Angry Sad Sad

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lisbethsopposite · 20/01/2013 15:48

Just got woven ring sling and Beck Butterfly from library.

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Woolybob · 20/01/2013 16:53

I've never heard of Montessori either! We have a nursery at the end of our road, it has a sign outside saying it got a good ofsed so just assumed we'd try there first, thinking maybe should put more thought into this now....

My DD is firmly on 25th centile now and I have no problem with anyone talking about how big there baby is, all the centiles are "normal" babies, she's on the 75th one for height but most of my family are on the tall/thin side so that's totally expected. I don't think anyone should feel bad about how big or small their babies are, they're all individuals. As long as healthy who cares...

smiley & crazy think we are birthday buds? 4th Oct, been through a similar waking every 2 or 3 hours here but last 2 nights only twice in 12 hour period so hopefully over for you soon too.

Hair also falling out here, and what's staying in is getting pulled out by dd.

DH on his way home today Grin Grin Grin

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squidkid · 20/01/2013 17:00

Very interested in the education debate! I hope my initial statement didn't sound judgemental or anything; just my views for me and my kid, other people also have perfectly valid opinions. My brother is a primary school teacher in a poor area of Leeds: we talk about schools a lot. I don't really know what I think about nurseries though.
Me and boyfriend are both going to go part time in August so Jess will only be in nursery one day a week. We are very fortunate we can afford this, though some of it is choices and priorities not luck.

I think we are in the four month sleep regression I keep hearing about. Jess is a very good sleeper normally so it's not too bad. Just restless nights really, not full blown multiple awakenings. I am tired though.

zara I think it's great you are so at peace with your travelling life and it's future implications - I'm with lisbeth - I'd be so sad if my family/mates lived far away! My parents moved abroad for a few years once and I hated it.
lisbeth I can be joyful and kind at times, not so sure about wise! Love your advice about what baby will (won't) remember! Glad you are feeling better - I felt so much better after a haircut and buying some new jeans. What's the bf dress, I keep nearly buying one but they all look a bit frumpy. I am a midget and have to wear short dresses or I look all mumsy - er you know what I mean
mickey thanks for thinking of me. My gran is still with us but hasn't eaten or drunk for three days now so it is just a slow end I think. My dad is with her and he is doing ok. She is 91 and at peace and well looked after in a nice home, so it's as ok as these things can be. Thank you. I am just waiting for news really.
elpis I always love your posts, so sensible and informative! And well jealous you've chatted to Kate Evans, I LOVE The Food of Love! I read it repeatedly for the first few tough weeks of bf!
Speaking of bf: I feel like my boobs have stopped producing milk, jess is so grumpy and dissatisfied with them at the moment, it's not much fun Sad I keep telling myself it MUST be a growth spurt, but it would be so easy to start believing my supply had dried up / need to add in food / etc. Really really hope they are producing milk ok!
(also elpis I couldn't stop laughing at "his arms have no tone" and imaging a baby doing wee pressups to tone up)
angelico hello, growth spurt buddy. Jess sleeps in EXACTLY the same way, previously unsettled but a good sleeper, rubbish napper. She needs SO much persausion to nap in the day! So sorry about the D&V, rubbish.
poor baby crazypaving Sad Jess has had two colds so far but she hasn't seemed bothered by them. Just keeps me up all night snuffling in her sleep...
oren Yum, love that kind of food. I too feel SO much better when eating right (was part of my selfish reasons for staying home for xmas, we ate lobster and proper food rather than carbs and chocolate!)
cookiemonster another wee baby here, don't worry! Jess is on the 9th centile and I only packed away the newborn clothes at 14 weeks! She is chubby cheeked and gorgeously mini though - she's got her whole life to grow big!
londonmrss snort, and agreed!

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Orenishii · 20/01/2013 17:06

I just made a sweet pumpkin pie, gluten free pastry made from scratch. This is what the snow has driven me to!

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WantAnOrange · 20/01/2013 17:29

Squid DD is on the 9th centile too. We're in 3-6months but we use real nappies which tend to need the next size up.

Childcare, I know I'm a bit biased but I really feel that a nursery cannot offer the same quality care that a good childminder can and would always choose a childminder for the under 3's. In an ideal world I would have several children close together and home-school them. My experience with school, as both a student and a parent has shown me that institutions cant provide care and education for the unique child. I still see our state education refusing to follow common sense, swallow their pride and put some trust in our kid's abilities. No 4 year old should be forced to learn to read. I have pretty strong views on this Blush.

Orenshii Pass a slice! Yum!

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hufflepuffle · 20/01/2013 17:41

Our timing decision to have DS (tho it took so much longer than expected to create him!) was based on DH being SAHD. We think 1 parent at home is the best way for us. Would much rather it be me but finances of a small professional business now dictate our lives. I think I'd rather a child minder if I had to as personally the idea of a tiny dependent baby in nursery makes me uncomfortable. We wont have to think about this until he goes to preschool age 4, hopefully. If we don't meet criteria for preschool (limited places, all sorts of criteria) then it will be a private nursery. House we moving to is in city suburbia and there are lots of nice families with small kids in our street. Hopefully he can socialise at home!!! Many friends found babies really came out oif themselves once they started in daycare nursery. I'm slightly wary that we are not going to have him mixing enough!! But I think DS and daddy will have a ball while mummy goes to work and cries

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BoraBora · 20/01/2013 17:41

Why are you biased Wantanorange? Are you a CM?

Completely unrelated, do we have a range of ages in this group? I'm 28...

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BoraBora · 20/01/2013 17:47

Hehe Oren you seem to have embraced Palio living - I have a wonderful image of you all barefoot running and catching mammoth pumpkin pie with DS in a bearskin sling! Love it!Smile

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