October 2012 babies - over here nobbers!

[Smorgs]

This really will be the thread where all our babies start sleeping through the night... right?!

[squidkid]

Marking place

[Smorgs]

elpis wow how did you manage working for a paper and having a baby? Are you a reporter? Sorry don't have to share personal details if you don't want to. I worked for a regional daily and sometimes court reporting which was great because it was interesting and the hours were sociable but then did political reporting which meant covering loads of evening meetings then rushing back to office to file for next morning edition and often not getting home till midnight or later. Then there was working weekends but lots of people do that. Redundancies are shit, we had a few rounds where I worked. I hope it works out for you. Its a pretty demoralising industry at the moment isnt it? especislly if you have/would never hack a phone or even know how to!! I've recently been considering whether to retrain and move over to the Dark Side but not sure I could live with myself. I like telling the truth for a living.

[Smorgs]

By the way, my librarian/cardy joke was crap, ignore me please everyone I love libraries... And librarians... And I know you don't all wear cardigans these days

[Orenishii]

Morning all :)

Feeling quite down today - following on from the end of the other thread, bit glum about DH going back to work etc, etc. But! Loving all the how-I-met-DH stories.

DS was weighed yesterday at GPs clinic and as usual, the weird loaded questions. He's just below average on the weight gain, which seems to prompt questions like "are you sure you want to continue breastfeeding?". FUCKING STUPID PEOPLE I can't stand it!! Sorry but - just - god! So he doesn't gain weight in an average way, according to your charts and your guidelines! It was your fucking stupid guidelines that pressured me into an unnecessary and unwanted induction which lead to a path of intervention that ended with a spinal and forceps! I hate them. I actually think I hate them. I hate the language they use like "we allow" and I hate how they make me feel and I hate how if something is ever so slightly outside of their range - which is so fucking arbitrary anyway! - you're made to feel like there is something wrong with you and your child when there isn't, when there just isn't! I swear to god - when I have another baby - I would sooner move out of this area than have to subject myself to these people again.

Fuck them and their faux ^we support homebirths and natural births and breastfeeding and everything" because they fucking don't. They pretend to but my entire experience has been pressure me into something THEIR OWN GUIDELINES SAID I DIDN'T NEED and pressure to formula feed when I functioning perfectly breastfeeding.

Sorry. Sorry. Just - they make me feel like total shit and they pretend they support me and my baby, but they don't.

[Cherrychopsticks]

Yeah Smorgs, you librarianist, you!

Oreniishi, sounds like you don't need their support anyway , you know your son, you know he's fine and you're doing fine without them. Ignore the bastards! Don't feel down, you should feel proud. January's a bit of a shit month, isn't it?

[crazypaving]

orenishii hug for you. I evade health visitors because - apologies to any health visitors out there - I have never ever met one that talks sense. ds2 is being watched like a hawk by a doctor and they're harder to shake off! you sound like you know what you're doing and you also sound good at standing your ground - just what your ds needs. well done!

[MickeyTheShortOne]

Orenishii No please, rant away. I felt exactly like you after DD was weighed on her 10 day check- ignore the fecking guidelines, they are PISH. You know whats right for your baby so you carry on like you have been doing. The baby will catch up soon. Hugs for you though, they are so good at making you feel like crap.

Good morning everyone... I thought DD slept through the night last night... Turns out she woke up twice but I turned my alarm off and went straight back to sleep. Oops. DP just put dummy back in her mouth and she went back to sleep... so maybe she is able to go without a feed during the night? Hmmmmmm.

[Cherrychopsticks]

I have a stupid question...
When do babies start sitting? And how does it happen? I mean, I presume they don't go straight from lying to pulling themselves up into a sitting position. So do we have to do "train" them? If so, when and how?
I'm guessing its not soon, as we're still mastering the wobbly neck but just realised I have no idea.

[Cherrychopsticks]

Me too First, it'll make life so much easier!
So do I just keep propping him up til one day he can do it alone? I have a Bumbo, I think I can use that soon.

[Woolybob]

Actually smorgs I am a librarian, could you keep your smart alec comments to yourself please? Nah - just fking with you, I'm your sub editor - now get back to work

DD likes being held sitting up and standing up at the moment (13 weeks today), enjoys the different perspective I guess, we were looking at the various sitting/bouncing things like bumbos but I think she needs a smidge more head control first.

Don't get me started on hv, gps and weight gain...

[Cherrychopsticks]

What experiences First?
I don't know much, we inherited it from one of DH's work mates.

[Elpis]

They just sit up on your lap more often. Then you prop them up with cushions on the floor - this is when a soft mat comes in useful as they will fall over like wobbly Russian dolls. Then one day you can put them down sitting up rather than horizontal. Then comes crawling, and standing. But not always in that order.

I have a pic of DD aged around 7 months sitting up and going through a drawer, so it must have happened. It was at that point we had to remove the razor blades from the drawer.

Smorgs - no, could never have managed a reporting job and a baby! Editing on a national's website, with some writing thrown in. So no print deadlines, or only exceptionally.

[Elpis]

Orenishii

Can't believe the doctor said that! Your DC is taking as much as they need and if they were hungry you'd know about it. A lot of them are still using charts based on weight gain in FF rather than BF babies. Incidentally, my red book now says not to weigh babies too often as it makes you paranoid (or words to that effect).

DS is perfectly happy but (after reassuring you all the other day) I suddenly got fretful about supply because my breasts haven't been feeling particularly full. Poured some hot water on fenugreek seeds and a fennel tea bag, which always used to boost the milk last time. Will let you know if it works again!

[WantAnOrange]

I've got Bebe Pod instead of a Bumbo because it has straps which I prefer. I've used it as a childminder and found that some babies love and some hate it. DD likes it for about 10 mins at a time, then I think she gets of holding her head up.

I stood in her bouncy chair yesturday (luckily she wasnt in it at the time) and broke it so I need a new one. Debating wether its worth getting a swinging chair instead.

[hufflepuffle]

Oh! Too much to catch up on!

Mickey wow! Def keep trying dummy during night then!! If bubba was hungry you would know about it. God, I wish DS would take a dummy! We keep trying.

Have seen those Bumbo things, don't really know anything about or what age from. DS head support comin on great.

Back to physio today. Adv me to try and DTD before post natal review in few weeks. Just incase there are any issues. Horrified myself by realising is a year since last time.......... We had BFP on 5th Feb so conception was mid Jan. OMFG, how the hell hav I let this happen??????

Also went to see BF lady in hospital to look at latch again. I had forgotten one important piece of guidance. I feel so v v v stupid. 5 mins fixed it. Please let this be the end!!!!!

Orenishii I agree with everyone else!! You know DS best. Is your hubby tall and thin? I remember you are v petite! We are all v different shapes and this certainly applies to babies too!! Hope u manage to stand your ground.

On size issue, I've just put 6-9 month vest and babygro from Asda on DS. Washed and tumbled once. They just bloody fit and no more! Toes restricted in suit. Christ almighty. Mothercare 6/9 have more room.

My GP mentioned over feeding....... I chose to fully ignore!! DS Is v v v long and has well formed limbs, but he does not look pudgy, he is just v solid! Again, like his dad.

Sorry, mostly me me me!

[squidkid]

huffle your boy lovely and does not look fat at all, just tall (like you!) Anyway what happened to "you can't overfeed a breastfed baby?" (As I remember you are exclusively bf, please ignore if I have remembered wrongly!)

Orenishi and Elpis absolutely agree

I know Jess must be small (is only just beginning to get out of new born size and into 0-3 months) but she is alert, happy, feeding, contented, producing nappies and I haven't had her weighed since 6 weeks and frankly I don't see the point.

[squidkid]

Sent off for Jess's passport today (not cause we're going anywhere, just to be organised)

Her serious wee face in the photo - priceless!!

[Londonmrss]

Jesus Christ, I go away for 4 days and there has been over 100 posts and a whole new thread. Will start mammoth catch up layer. Currently something paperwork because we've found a new house! No more tiny 2nd floor flat for us, we're moving out of London where we can actually afford something more! Scary stuff.

Haven't read any of your posts from the last few days so will read properly and catch up later.

Happy new year nobbers

[hufflepuffle]

New skill for day: joining hands together and shoving both in mouth!!!

[Elpis]

Londonmrss

Good for you moving out of London. Just doing DD's primary school application. You have to pick six schools. There's no point in choosing more than one as we have no chance whatsoever of getting into any of the others thanks to lack of religious belief and tiny catchment areas. School choice, my backside. Grr

[hufflepuffle]

Yep Squid I thought so too. No over feeding here!!!

Wasn't my usual GP or I would have heartily disagreed!!!
Yep, still EBF.