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Smorgs · 02/01/2013 19:36

This really will be the thread where all our babies start sleeping through the night... right?!

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Shellwedance · 18/01/2013 13:15

Orenshi Really like your description of AP and is broadly what I'm following too. Without going into much detail, am currently parenting alone and AP seems to be the only way at the mo.

Squid You always sound like you have such lovely days, what with your Shag Mondays and bf in galleries. Have been watching Junior Doctors and reminds me if you though know you're infinitely more experienced.

Huffle Have had similar dreams, v disconcerting. Good luck with interviews.

Hope Londonmrs is a bit better today.

Am considering a bumbo cos DD wants to sit up ALL the time. Is it quite supportive Fjord? How old is your DD?

Have just been to a Delta course. It's something the Surestart Centre runs. Is 6 weeks on different parenting issues. Would recommend asking your HV if it's in your area because it's a very good way of meeting Mums with babies the same age.

We're getting a few flakes of snow but nothing settling yet.

BoraBora · 18/01/2013 14:01

Jillian Michaels DVD has just arrived. Actually a bit frightened of it.

WantAnOrange · 18/01/2013 14:20

Bora I did the Shred for the first time this morning. Wasnt as bad as I feared.

I have a couple of questions. Would you put a baby down on the floor, on laminate flooring while she was screaming? Would it take you 15 minutes to get baby dressed appropriately and in pushchair and put on your own coat and shoes if you had nothing else you needed to do, and would you stand asking for a kiss goodbye from your wife while baby continues to scream, or am I justified in telling DH to hurry the fuck up and LEAVE ALREADY!

BoraBora · 18/01/2013 14:48

This isn't the shred, this is some other madness.

No, you are justified. DH is deranged. He sounds exactly the same as mine.

WantAnOrange · 18/01/2013 14:50

He was trying to help me out, I know that but he doesnt see the world from DD's point of view at all.

funchum8am · 18/01/2013 15:08

You are fully justified wantan!!

can't keep up with every post but we put babyfunch to sleep in Moses basket in the room next door to our living room for naps, and up in our bedroom in her crib from 7ish pm. She sleeps beautifully from 7-2ish and then cannot go back to sleep due to painful wind so we have started co sleeping from that first wake up onwards, which has worked well the past two nights. Before that I was up with her asleep on me, or repeatedly failing to settle her in the crib, from 2 til DH got up and took her around 4:30 or 5am, which was of course killing him, poor man.

My DM is here at present which is lovely - we are sitting in the living room knitting like olivess Smile DM is luckily up to date on current thinking on childcare as she is the recently retired head of a children's centre so I don't get any crap about early weaning or similar and I feel very lucky for that. DH and I were going to go to our favourite restaurant for dinner while DM babysits but we won't be able to get there due to heavy snow, so will go to a restaurant on our street instead.

We are getting the antilop high chair as well, my brother has one for my niece and swears by it, especially for the price!

hufflepuffle · 18/01/2013 15:12

Orenishii the fact that you and DH are so aware of failings if your own parents makes it nearly impossible that you will be like them, in my tiny opinion. You are clearly devoted to little dude and he is very lucky to have you xx
I suppose at this stage most of us are mostly AP. We never even considered co sleeping due to us both being physically big and DH being a seriously heavy sleeper. And I suppose it just felt natural to have him in basket beside us. Transfer to cot 3 feet away felt traumatic but actually 2 nights and normality resumed. And he was never frantic, just woke up more often and looked for comfort. He is with either of us 24-7 and I guess will be for the foreseeable future. DH had a rotten childhood with an asshole father and a poor stricken old fashioned over strict mum. We hope never to make our child experience any of what he went through.

Shell thanks for good luck. Don't want any answers but sincerely hope you are ok and whatever you are dealing with becomes easier.

Hard to do telephone interviews when most candidates do not actually answer phone..........!

Fjord thanks for your description! Appears like most things, I'm clueless!! Did a bit of online looking and lots of high chairs suitable younger. There's a nice fisher price padded multi height one on offer in Argos but all stores locally sold out. Must discuss with DH (cos his mother seems to want to buy one......Grin)

Bumbo Went to Mothercare recently to buy one. Lady advised us to try him in as she found her son grew out too quickly. His wee legs did indeed look to fill the leg holes!! We took the mamas and papas one instead which has more room and also removable insert for when even bigger. Doesn't get great reviews online tho and he too small for it as yet. Confused

Only a bit of snow here so far. We live on a hill and I'm crsp at driving in it, so if it comes DS might not get daytime naps for day or 2!!! Blush

I AM trying to put him down for day naps. Dopy, dozy, happy, in cot, WAAAH!! Ok then.

hufflepuffle · 18/01/2013 15:15

Wantan. They just don't always get it, do they? [frustrated emoticon]

And Funch can I borrow your DM for while please?? I actually practice responses in my head to both mums regarding feeding now..........!

DMIL coming tomorrow for an hour so I am going to leave them to it and go in to work between feeds!!! Well the paperwork won't do itself......

Cherrychopsticks · 18/01/2013 15:30

Sounds like you're all getting a lot of snow. Take care and keep warm everyone!
Nothing here as usual, but where we're going tomorrow (nr. Mnt. Fuji) has had loads - can't wait! Apparently Fuji's looking beautiful, I hope it's clear.

Tried on all yesterday's purchases, not bad - I actually now have a couple of smart-ish things to wear Grin

Hope you're ok Shell.

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hufflepuffle · 18/01/2013 15:58

First on top of wheel unit there are wee arrows on a plastic bit about 1.5 cm wide. You either push or pull these up/down. Sorry, is in car and I'm not going out on snow!!! That locks them straight, assume that's what u mean?

hufflepuffle · 18/01/2013 16:02

Gosh Cherry, imagine being able to just go see Mt Fuji. The Mourne Mountains view from here Is beautiful but don't think there could be any comparison.......!!!

Woolybob · 18/01/2013 16:02

Loving all the highchair tips - in a similar vein does anyone have a recommendation for a travel cot? The in-laws are divorced so a trip to them involves a night with each - need one that's easy to collapse/transport/put up. Or are they all much of a muchness?

A friend is coming Sun and bringing me a cot, jumperoo and bumbo. Feel very lucky if slightly cheapskate! On that note you may already know this but there was a bumbo recall to get warnings put on about using it high up and safety straps put in them see this:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2188714/Four-million-Bumbo-Baby-Seats-recalled-dozen-reports-skull-fractures-infants.html
thought you should see if getting second hand one.

Quite a lot of snow here this am so not been out all day. Staying at home is hard work and I miss DH who is not back till Sunday so feeling a bit blue. However road now just looks like slush so am going to spend tomorrow at my folks hopefully.

DD was entertained by watching the snow for about 2 minutes then was bored again, she has the attention span of a goldfish...

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squidkid · 18/01/2013 16:15

Boyfriend has come home from work with D&V - really hope baby doesn't catch it (or me). He has slept most of the day, and now is whinging away like someone who hasn't been through childbirth Grin - I have been out in the blizzard to buy him chocolate and wine and cheese for me - he is such a girl!! I am going to make roast onion soup in a bit... am sure that will go down better than chocolate, ffs.

I think Jess has just been through a growth spurt - she has fed RELENTLESSLY all week - I actually wondered if my boobs were still producing milk yesterday then reminded myself that is not how boobs work - today she has had 2 x 2.5-hour naps!! Normally she gets about 1-2 hours all day...

I can't put her down to nap (plus I like her in my arms really) so have been watching back episodes of One Born Every Minute and crying with every baby! Lovely thing to do on a wintery day...

I still feel a bit bad for inflicting Jillian Michaels/Shred on people - I did it this morning and feel a bit conflicted after what Orenishi was saying. But I am a lot fitter than I was 2 months ago and that feels good, and, yeah. Maybe I just needed that initial burst of fitness and I can relax a bit now. I am walking to the baby groups twice a week and they are an hour each way. I won't pretend I like my body that much, but falling out of size 12 jeans feels a damn sight better than trying to squish into size 10 ones. I dunno, maybe this isn't the right place to talk about this stuff.

Hope everyone is enjoying the snow and looking forward to weekend! Nearly here! xx

squidkid · 18/01/2013 16:20

Shellwedance Thanks, and actually I am not infinitely more experienced than a junior doc at all - I went to med school as a mature student so have only been a doctor a few years. I am was very overworked and not massively experienced, which is a stressful combination! Hospitals vary massively - some chuck their junior docs in the deep end and we do a lot of very responsible stuff with very sick patients on extremely shortstaffed rotas - others do more handholding I think, my experience has certainly been the former. It's not great for patients but hard to know which is better for training doctors...
Haven't seen Junior Doctors so can't comment how realistic it is!

Elpis · 18/01/2013 16:40

The only way is Antilop.

Collected DD from preschool, took her to play date, caught bus home, all without problems. What kind of a British snow event is this???

WantAnOrange · 18/01/2013 17:02

Squid I quite enjoyed the Shred. Maybe I'm not as unfit as I feared. The only bit I found particularly challenging was the cardio but that's because I'm asthmatic. I need to work on eating better. I am always hungry atm, and I'm hungry for biscuits, not fruit!

cheesymonster · 18/01/2013 18:11

I don't have a bumbo but I put baby cheesy in her bouncy chair on the middle of the dining table so she can watch me prepare and eat dinner. If I'm lucky that keeps her happy while I eat!

She has been very unsettled today. Not sure if she's got a cold as her nose sounds sniffly and there's been a few bogeys, or if it's the teething or that she had her second set of jabs yesterday. But she did sleep for 12 hours last night so that's good! The only thing that stops her crying today is me singing to her! Working through my 80s repertoire as I don't like lullabies. Currently singing joe dolce's shaddup a your face which she finds hilarious...

BoraBora · 18/01/2013 18:39

Why do you feel bad about it Squid?

Londonmrss · 18/01/2013 18:42

Hi everyone, sorry for the silence and thank you to those who mentioned me. It's been a very difficult few days. Essentially she has been screaming and refusing every feed for the last couple of days. The strange thing is she was fine in every other way- still alert, smiley and playful, but when it came to feeding, she just wouldn't have it and acted like I was torturing her. There have been lots of tears (mostly from me), not much asleep (again, me not her) and one serious migraine (me again). Yesterday I was really concerned about her getting dehydrated so I offered her a bottle of expressed which she politely refused. When she hadn't fed in 6 his I even offered formula. I say 'even' not because I think formula is bad, but only because she is ebf so it's not a decision I take lightly. Anyway she refused that too (which actually made me feel a tiny bit better- at least it wasn't my milk or me that she hated).
Anyway she then decided to take a good feed just after. Today has been a little better. Still not great and the only way she will feed is if I stand and walk around while feeding so she is distracted. Otherwise she is still getting a bit upset. But at least I'm getting the milk in her and hopefully this is gradually re-educating her that feeding is nice time, not a battlefield.

Phew, hardest week I've had yet. Makes me realise what an easy baby she usually is with her self settling , perfect weight gain and general happy mood.
It sounds terrible, and I would never, but it makes me realise why people accidentally end up shaking their babies. It's so upsetting and frustrating that it becomes very hard work to stay calm and in control. I did, but only just- and only because I could hand her to DH and go and do my crying in another room. I felt so close to screaming at her. I feel awful admitting this.

But hopefully things are improving and if she gets upset with a feed, I'm just stopping immediately and trying again later. I have no idea what caused this, but as she is otherwise healthy, I'll just have to assume it's a phase. This too shall pass etc.

Anyway, will catch up on all your posts in a bit.

Re. AP, I'm not sure if that's what we do or not. We don't really let her fall asleep on us but that's only because she is happier falling asleep on her own. We give her final feed around 8pm in the bedroom and then pop her in the cot and leave her with Ewan the Sheep. I peep in on her every couple of minutes and usually she is smiling and chatting to Ewan (thought that thing was supposed to make them sleep). If she seems at all grisly, I go in and give her a cuddle and stay next to her. After a few minutes she starts to look sleepy so I go and give her a kiss and she smiles then doses off. I suppose my version of AP is making sure she feels secure in the knowledge that I'm there if she needs me- secure enough that she's happy to be on her own. This is led by her though- she won't actually fall asleep in our arms- she struggles and wriggles and eventually cries... but put her down and she's happy.

Good to think of these positives after a hideous few days of feeling like a total failure. Thank you so much for all your words of support.

Gorgeous snow here. Long walk in Greenwich park tomorrow I think.

Right, will get some dinner and then try and catch up on your news.

Londonmrss · 18/01/2013 18:44

Woah enormous post. Very self-involved of me, really sorry.

Zara1984 · 18/01/2013 19:20

Have been using a high chair here too! The owner of the holiday house we're staying at found one for us. I sit him in it with a toy in front of him so he can see me while I make his bottles/potter around in the kitchen :) Going to get myself an Ikea one when we get back to Ireland. I'm going to try start weaning at 17 weeks so it's nice to get DS used to sitting in a high chair.

Londonmrs glad to hear you had a bit of a better day! DS fed well yesterday but this morning only took 100ml (after a 12 hour sleep, which is worrying) instead of his usual 200ml. He then chewed on the teat and grinned at me... sigh. And blurked up about 20ml of what he did take when he was lying on his playmat afterwards.

Today DH and I are having our first afternoon and evening alone with the baby and just the two of us since the week before Tom was born! It's been fab to have so much help and to see all of our friends but it's meant we've never really got into the rhythm of a little family of three yet (well five, when you include the cats!).

BoraBora · 18/01/2013 19:54

Am just having a bit of a look at attachment parenting. Do you have any of Sears books, Oren, or any other recommendations for reading?

What I've read so far completely chimes with me.