October babies. Don't get lost

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Had mega lie in till 10.45 with dp looking after the kids this morning. Feel so much better for getting sleep catch up, I never seem to be able to do that during day when DS sleeps. Does anyone, or is it a myth thAt it is possible to sleep when baby does? Might be easier if there weren't a million other chores to do I suppose.

It is our 5yr wedding anniversary today (well civil partnership) and found out dp has lovely evening planned. Going for dinner and then comedy night and enlisted both sets of grandparents for divide and conquer babysitting. Ds1 going to my parents OVERNIGHT yay! Thankfully he is v robust and doesn't sit still for a moment do I don't think my dad will be able to sit on him Ds2 staying here with mil coming over.
Here's to a lovely couples time, long overdue

elpis I don't think you overreacted about lo going to hospital at all. We've taken DS twice now in 7 weeks and both times I was a gibbering wreck, couldn't speak to the docs as I was crying too much. Would have lamped anyone who suggested I was too concerned about my baby

Quick wave and run :) Great 24 hours - got out last night for meal with friends and a few drinks, bean took her expressed bottle and DH took her so I slept from 01:30-09:00, then expressed another bottle this morning so I could go to writing workshop. So far all is peaceful...

October congrats on anniversary :)

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congrats on your anniversary october! im off out tonight too now i have a question for you expressing ladies... pips is 3 weeks old tomorrow, have expressed 11oz of milk in total for DP to give her if she gets hungry- now i know all babies are different, but do you think that will be enough for 3/4 hours? how much were your babes eating then?

Hi chick! Congrats october! Thank you cherry :)

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It's 4am here, just fed. Has anyone else here had baby flail around on bottle/boob during feeding? DS definitely wants the bottle and won't release his suction on it, but he grunts and wriggles like mad at times when he's sleepy.

Started bath-massage-bottle-cuddle-bed routine last night (much to DMIL's whingeing, she wants DS to be kept up so she can cuddle him while she watches TV... Even if he's overtired!). Knew it was going to take ages (esp as DS was tired as couldn't get him to nap after 3.30). Bath at 6pm, bottle at 6.30, took an hour to settle after he was in bed at 6.45. He eventually fell asleep on my shoulder and I transferred him to bed - he couldn't quite drop off in his basket. He then slept until 12.30!!!! And has done feeds then and at 3.30. Imagine he will wake up around 6.30.

He has not taken full bottles at 12.30 and 3.30 (even with me waking him to try encourage him to take more). Do you ladies find they do shorter boob feeds/smaller bottle feeds at night?

Ok back to sleep...

Am I had mum for using saline spray regularly in DS at night to try silence his snuffles?!

Will persevere with bedtime routine and see if it works (and gets faster to settle DS!)....

mickey when I was expressing would've found that just enough at that age.... Maybe express a wee bit more just in case??

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oh my - pages and pages to catch up on - yay for those of you going out tonight though - I am too - going to see PULP !!

Hope the baby behaves! Have had a marvellous saturday, managed my longest run yet, took boyfriend out for breakfast in town while parents watched jess, bought a christmas tree and carried it home through the city like the coolest kids in town, have been wrapping tidying and mooching and getting excited about the gig. Need to find something cute to wear... this will be my first proper night out!! I hope I don't cry, fall asleep or leak milk!

Ahhh my cousin in Paris just had her twins 6 weeks early. Theyre all soing great apparently. She spent 15 years ttc

I could actually cry at so many of you going out tonight......

Silly Huffle

God, you all so much more together and chilled than me!!!!

Enjoy yourselves! That is brilliant!!!!!

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Hi all, I went out with school mums on thurs which was lovely and baby buttons slept through til I got home, even had a glass of wine with DH and a dance in our living room!!

DH is now in my less good books as he's buggered off to the pub leaving me to juggle bath and bed for 4 year old (who will want multiple stories) and overtired babe (who will want multiple boobs!).

zara bf at night def shorter, I assume because of good hormones and supply at night.

Must run now meltdown occurring. Hope everyone has a good night

october happy anniversary, it's our wedding anniversary too today, 11 years! We have a less exciting evening planned but still lovely - been to m+ s to buy yummy food that will be quick and easy to cook in between settling offspring! Hope you have a lovely evening and squid enjoy pulp, listened to them so much during university and sixth form,I am v jealous!

Help. LO is 6 weeks and had spent the past 4 hours screaming blue murder. Normally he calms when I pick him up but he keeps screaming tonight. The only thing that helps is sticking a boob in his mouth but he's eaten plenty so I don't think he's hungry. He had wind earlier but think we sorted that before the screamathon started. Maybe I'm being naive and have been lucky up till now but is it normal for the intense screaming to just keep going? Or should I be really worried.

honey good sign I think that boob in mouth is working to calm him, would worry more if he didn't want to feed, could it be 6 week growth spurt maybe? Hugs for you anyway, it's exhausting when they start on a mega screamathon.

DH just home from work, have him DS and DS is now dozing peacefully in daddy's arms. My child hates me.

Holy moly, I've been so busy with visitors that a whole new thread has been created...

Marking my spot just in case I actually get 5 minutes to catch up with everyone!!

Oooooh, new emoticons!! Love 'em!

(Where's the childish emoticon???)

honey I have the same thing. the fact is that often mummy is not the best person to settle baby because of the milky smell and association with feeding. mine often gets really frustrated with me and I think it's because she's feeling like she should feed but she doesn't really want to, she actually wants to sleep or whatever. try not to take it personally. it feels like it, but it's not rejection.

MickeyTheShortOne 11oz should be ample. Even if he wants more you know he's not going to starve while you're away.

How did DD self-settle? It was very different first time round. She was sleeping on her own in a cot and I would feed her to sleep, put her down, go to bed and then get up to feed her when she cried, feed her to sleep, then put her back in the cot. Sometimes I resented her so much for dragging me out of bed. When I went back to work I couldn't hack the broken nights any more and started taking her into the spare bed to feed when she woke me up. Sometimes I'd wake up and return to the marital bed, sometimes I didn't. She gradually woke less often until she was sleeping through, though I can't remember exactly when that was - around 9 months?

Now DS and I are co-sleeping, I put him in the cot next to the bed while DD has her bedtime story and a bit of milk. He generally falls asleep. She goes off to bed, I tuck her in, and when DS wakes and starts looking hungry I feed him to sleep. He's going for longer between night feeds now. As he gets older and more active I'll start putting him in the cot more often. But I do love snuggling up with him.

Oh, hasn't thought of that london thanks for the tip!

ah huffle don't feel like that. I am still a million miles away from a night out too. Having said that, I am going to a party tomorrow but it starts at 2pm and the birthday girl is 3! It will happen for you though, you just wait! Soon you will have much more freedom. I keep reminding myself of how much I used to do and enjoy when I just had DS1. You are doing a bloody brilliant job, especially with all the bf crap you have to cope with so don't be hard on yourself.

I am a little jealous of all of you having nights out you lucky things! But not as jealous as I am of my husband though who is at our friends wedding in oxford with all our friends. Free bar all day...6 course meal...swing band...dancing... Jealous? Moi? Noooooo! Ha ha! To be honest, I feel aghast that he is able to exist outside of our home and family as it has been so long since i have done anything other than survive, feed and entertain my boys that I can not imagine having an hour out to socialise let alone a whole weekend. And if I was away, I would miss them horribly! I feel so frustrated that I am longing for something that I wouldn't want if I had it! I guess that ugly as it is, I feel resentful that he is able to enjoy parenthood and have a life too, whereas my life is totally and utterly consumed with it all to the point where I class having done a pile of ironing in a day as an achievement. I know it won't be like this forever and there is soooooo much about this period that I love, but sometimes it is hard to enjoy it when you feel you are the only one. I wish I had more generosity of spirit not to feel envious of him, because God knows he deserves a happy weekend after all the job stress. Must try harder!

Thank you for such lovely words cherry and well done on epic catch up! Looking forward to hearing your news!

Happy anniversary smiley and october!

Nothing from yomping for a while-hope you are OK hun??

Lisbeth thanks for the new thread!

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May be mia for a while. Missed about 3 days of posts already.

Sil is in from australia, and my other sil just had a baby girl on friday so i hope to go visit her too soon.

Hope you all are well and managing some sleep.

Dh and i went out for a date night last week while grandparents babysat. Monday i am taking a card making class while sil babysits. Nice to be able to pump for some feeds.

Catch up again in a few weeks. Will try and read when i can and post anything urgent, sorry of i dont reply to you all.

Ttfn!

Sigh. DS just had another 3 hour long screamathon. Late afternoon. Third time this week. Fuck. Absolutely nothing would console him. It's colic, isn't it?? Arrrgh. Fuck fuck fuck. Thank god I brought lots of Infacol with me as a precaution, will start it with every feed now.

Baby collapsed asleep in FIL's arms in the end. Amusingly FIL was convinced we had to take DS to the doctor because apparently there must be something seriously wrong with the baby for him to cry like this. "But it's so hard on us!!" he exclaimed. Oh, how MIL and I laughed...

thx elpis, am v. impressed ds will stay in cot while dd has story and milk. my dd would have a melt down! hope u guys enjoyed your nights out- i can do daytime socoalising but am too tired come the evening

Morning all, Beccus you wanted to know about self settling experience so here goes.

Start with feeding to sleep or walking snd rocking post feed and putting down in Moses basket asleep, I tried hard not to get into the habit of him sleeping on me a lot but did this as necessary! As he got a bit older, around 6 weeks or so, he would stop feeding and have his eyes open, if he looked contented and not windy I would quickly put him down, swaddle, kiss goodnight, leave the room and switch off the light (which was already dim in preparation). If he cried I would go back, try to shush to sleep, then cuddle, then feed as necessary and repeat the process - didn't try any of these steps for ages, just read his cues, no point trying if agitated! He gradually got better and then expected this process which followed bath time every night religiously. Some days were better than others obviously.

Now following same process with DS2, once light is off he often mutters a bit and cries out occasionally but I wait (behind the door) and often he settles down.

Should add I have never found the daytime settling as easy as there is too much distraction - seems to work in the morning when no over tired but afternoon naps tend to be in pram or carrier!

Sorry this is long, but hope its helpful.

Hope you all have a nice Sunday - village Christmas fair and roast chicken for us - .yum