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lisbethsopposite · 08/12/2012 01:11

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MickeyTheShortOne · 10/12/2012 14:20

Crazy Chocolate is also a neccesity here as well. I've eaten a large bar of fruit and nut nearly every day Xmas Grin It'll make my milk good right? i love my mum's excuses

MickeyTheShortOne · 10/12/2012 14:24

Squid I've been given an appointment for a debrief in March.. and I'm debating wether to go or not.
The birth itself wasn't traumatising it was the bit after really. I think I'm over it but I'm not sure I want to go to this appointment and talk to someone else about it; it was hard enough talking to DP about it.
I feel better about it now, I know why it happened and I've got over the immediate fear of losing DD and DP (or them losing me), I don't know if its a good idea to go to this appointment and dig it all up again. Especially because I will cry, and then feel like a tit!

Angelico · 10/12/2012 16:54

Another quick wave and run but a hug for Yomping - you've had great advice from all and it just sounds like you are being very hard on yourself. Definitely do not wake baby to feed / change / play - let them sleep and enjoy the down time :) We use Huggies Newborn and they are brilliant, she can go 10-12 hours ON in them with only the odd leak.

And yes yes yes to getting out of the house. Definitely recommend baby groups, especially the BFing groups and baby yoga which seem to be smaller where I live and therefore easier to get talking to people (some of the big mum and baby groups seem more cliquey). HVs tend to know more about what's on, especially if you're lucky and have a HV with young kids of their own who has been through them recently.

Oops bean awake after epic 3 hour nap. Baby yoga is awesome!!! She loves doing it, then conks out so I can have a peaceful lunch / coffee with friends :o

Beccus · 10/12/2012 17:17

baby beccus slept so well last nite, but will not nap today. Have got her off 5 times today but she will only sleep for 10-20 min. seems hungry, too...we do struggle with day time naps and r lucky to get her down for 1 or 2 at the most Sad :-(

hufflepuffle · 10/12/2012 17:36

Quite distressed. DS has been coming off boob quickly and angrily for few days, arches, screams and v v hard to settle. Earlier took 45 mins. Next feed fine, this one similar but not as dramatic. I am concerned about silent reflux. He cried so much and so horribly earlier that I cried too.

Has anyone had this where it is so variable? Is it possible that some feeds fine but some cause it?? Have apt on Thursday for review and injections so can discuss then. I assumed if had it every feed would be affected. He is also v content often playing on mat or just changing mat. If he had silent reflux I'd assume he would not be comfy on back?

Both times today have been in the dodgy boob, perhaps repeated thrush and mastitis hav done something weird? Oh I don't know. I was frantic earlier. Now, 15 mins on he is quite content. Would he settle that quickly?

Cherrychopsticks · 10/12/2012 17:42

Mickey DH and I were just talking about what to get baby for Xmas. No idea really, maybe a cot mobile? What did you get?
So glad chocolate makes my milk good! Wink

Beccus find that really interesting because DS does several 1.5-2hr naps everyday, but then he doesn't sleep for long spells at night. Sorry I can't offer any tips, he just does it. Maybe we only get one or the other?

squidkid · 10/12/2012 18:20

I have bought this book for jess for xmas

blueberry girl

She's too young to understand, but I can read it to her until she does

Elpis · 10/12/2012 18:20

hufflepuffle It sounds as though he might have colic, or some sort of tummy issue. I doubt your milk is to blame.

Have you tried putting him on your chest while you're lying down and striking his back with both hands? Until very recently this has reliably soothed DS. (He's now too big and falls off.)

Elpis · 10/12/2012 18:23

DS is getting That's Not My Snowman from his sister for Christmas. It was 50p from the secondhand bookshop. Scrooge-like, I've concluded that his sister's cast-off entertainments can keep him happy till ... Well, ideally 2030.

MickeyTheShortOne · 10/12/2012 18:24

Cherry I bought her a bright purple pair of dungarees.. they were so cute I couldn't resist Xmas Wink

squidkid · 10/12/2012 18:26

Grin Elpis
I worried I was being a bit tight with £5 for my firstborn child's first xmas... and other times i wonder why i bought her anything at all!

Lizzietow · 10/12/2012 18:33

Has anyone got a good daytime nap routine going? I'm struggling to put mine down in the house. Wakes up immediately!

Orenishii · 10/12/2012 18:53

huffle DS has been doing that too - thrashing around the nipple, coming off, crying, arching, really unsettled. I've been giving him gripe water before feeds - only up to six times a day - and getting extra vigilant about winding. Friday night was the worst - I finally resorted to a bath at midnight since water seems to relax him and I figured it would relax him enough to fart/burp/sleep.

Having a bad day - feel very tearful and keep thinking horrible things like something awful might happen to me, leaving DS to cry and cry and cry and cry until my DH comes home and discovers me. I know this is a bit hormonal but I have no one else to talk to - my mum will freak out and immediately say I have PND. Maybe I am a bit down - I cried all the way back from Waitrose today while pushing DS in the pram - but I can recognise what I am: exhausted, lonely, overwhelmed, scared. But I can also recognise it won't be like this forever...just right now, and DH is overwhelmed in his own ways, with being self-employed and the bread winner. Things are hard right now, for both of us, and we're bickering. It's no wonder I feel down - but I don't need someone fearing for my sanity, I just need a good cry :(

Orenishii · 10/12/2012 18:59

squid Anything by Neil Gaiman is awesome - excellent start to little Jess' education in amazing writing Grin

crazypaving · 10/12/2012 20:47

huffle my DS went through a phase of refusing the right boob - I posted about it here and on the feeding board. It was just a really weird phase and he went back to normal after a few days. Babies, eh. It's not you, it's the baby!! Wink

orenishii I remember having feelings like that! I remember asking my DH once if there was a system we could put in place, just in case something like that happened to me. Glad you can recognise your feelings for what they are - you sound very on the ball! Hope you get some more sleep soon.

Just wondering what to get DS2 for Christmas! He officially needs nothing, and any toys/books will be immediately appropriated by DS1.

We're doing Christmas with DH's brother, sister-in-law and 3 kids. DS1 will have a ball with his cousins, which is the main thing! And we'll be catered for Xmas Grin which is win-win, even if I find the SIL rather hard work....we'll be plied with champagne and put in a tiny double, where I will get absolutely no sleep for 2 nights. Ah well...champagne and no sleep, where can this go wrong?!

Londonmrss · 10/12/2012 22:14

I'm tired. That's all. Hugs.

hufflepuffle · 10/12/2012 22:31

Whatever it is, it is very inconsistent. Suspect it is wind rather than acid but he does not pull legs up at all. Ah well, asleep now but not expecting a settled night.

Thanks ladies for your feedback, helpful and insightful as ever.

Hugs to all having shitty day, Wine to all having a good one!

Off to sleep while I can
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Angelico · 10/12/2012 23:46

Huffle sounds like wind - our bean gets it too some evenings and when she does it's awful, she stretches out and goes rigid, then screams and screams until I sit her up which seems to help. Also lying her on changing mat and just letting her kick and chirrup seems to help as sometimes the wind escapes. Is hateful though, poor bean is so contented apart from when the wicked wind strikes :(

lisbethsopposite · 11/12/2012 00:11

Orenishii, sadness is not an illness. In Traditional Chinese Medicine they believe
our moods are meant to flow from happy to sad, worry relief etc. Try something to lift your mood, like sleep Grin if you can get it. Everyone here has had sad moments... No waist no sex (except squid), no poos bickering with dh /dm/toddler nothing fits except a tracksuit no time for makeup and 4-5 hrs sleep.

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Twobuttonsaway · 11/12/2012 02:24

huffle I have thrashing, fussing and pulling off issues on occasional feeds too. It always happens for me in late afternoon or early evening and I thinks it's a combination of (over) tiredness and slower letdown/less good supply at that time of day. Basically he's grumpy about having to work to get milk! I find gentle fast giggle as he feeds distracts him a bit until his tummy is fuller when he calms down. Another possible for you?

Zara1984 · 11/12/2012 03:46

DS had his 6-in-1 and PCV jabs today and now has a bit of a fever (on top of his snuffly nose/cold). Is there anything sadder than the "what's wrong with me??" cry of a newborn with a temperature? He has tears too :(

londonlivvy · 11/12/2012 04:40

DD has just slept for four hours. Yay.

Zara its horrible when they are in pain,isn't it? So heart rending.

Huffle we always had worst arching of back etc at six pm feed, proper inconsoleable crying four ten or twenty mins, with tears. Now I am dairy free it is much improved, though she grizxles through the feed and arches her back, if I sing to her non stop, she keeps feeding. Could just be tiredness at that feed? twobutton has a good theory. Though she is generally more sicky, she doesn't seem distressed by being sick.. anyway, I hope you find a solution.

For Christmas I will be mostly delegating the work to DF and MIL who is coming to stay. Hats off to anyone who is juggling children and being domestic goddess. Impressive stuff. Not sure we will get a pressie for her. Perhaps a cute Xmas babygro or something?

Huge hugs orenishii . I have been there.

Big thank you to cherry.DD had started to object to her bath, I gave her a muslin and now she is much happier.

Hugs to yomping too. It is all so hard, but you are doing well.

Bella I hope DH had a good explanation. I would have been very unimpressed.

Sorry to anyone I've missed.

hufflepuffle · 11/12/2012 05:28

Firstly Livvy I am so pleased for you that dairy free is helping bean. That is fantastic, I could cry with relief for you. Don't know if you interested in dairy alternatives but the Alpro soya chocolate milk is gorgeous!!

Thank you all so much for feedback. I do think it is wind as is so variable. As DH said too, after our initial hesitancy our cooking has now totally returned to normal with copious amounts of onions and garlic. This wknd we have had fajitas, a casserole and home made pasta sauce and cabbage. Perhaps the passing over wind theory relevant.

He has just also sneezed out a bogey the size of half a peanut! Hav kept to show DH! Maybe this was forcing him to swallow air?

Was mostly freaking yesterday as usually only wind issues later in day. But given that he has infacol later in day that makes sense. I will give but more infacol today and see how we go. DH gets cross at my hesitancy but I hate giving him chemicals!

Oh and we up now due to fartathon lkeading to poopy nappy, so I think u all correct...... Isn't it well I can listen to all your instincts when mine don't always work? Sigh

Thanks again
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smileyhappymummy · 11/12/2012 06:12

huffle we are also up following all night fartathon and failure to settle.
The poo finally came.
We have just finished bathing dd......

londonlivvy · 11/12/2012 07:17

Huffle, such a relief here too. The feed for five, scream for twenty, feed for five, etc, regime was hideous and so horrid seeing her in pain. Sadly no soya. Doc said too much oestrogen. If it does properly work over the two week test period then she's going to refer me to a dietician to ensure I get enough calcium. Re wind, I think infacol is supposed to be at each feed to be max effectiveness.

Smiley, chuckling at poomageddon.

Tonight we have our NCT reunion dinner. Six couples and babes. Holy cow. I am not looking forward to it. We are semi guaranteed to have at least one baby screaming at any given point. I think the other people in the pub will hate us. DD does normally sleep from 7 or 8 but if in the midst f a screamathon, I can't see her settling. I cannot think why our NCT teacher organised it this way. Anyway, we will see.

Off to a mum ad baby group in the village hall ths morning. Hope some are nice