October babies. Don't get lost

[lisbethsopposite]

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oh orenshii, i'n sorry your dh is feeling overwhelmed as well - if he is unable to support u and u guys r bickering that makes all this newborn malarky even harder :-( u r right in the exhaustion playing a big part. everything is 10 times worse with no sleep. lizzie, we have exact same problem here. had a lovely happy smiley bean yesterday morning who became a cranky nightmare. felt quite teary as she'd had a horrid day as i couldnt get her to sleep. i wanted my smiley happy baby back. i know those feelings r irrational- there was nothing more i could have tried to get her to sleep, but still the mummy guilt is there. lizzie, if u figure out the secret to daytime naps, please let me know! congrats livvy, on your bean's 4 hr sleep, and cherry, hope your bean starts sleeping longer at nite

So DS has got a fever from the jabs (nearly 39 degrees), Baby Panadol hasn't helped at all so getting admitted to hospital tonight :(

Livvy at soya!!! I did not know...... Ffs! This is a minefield!!! I'll stop that then! Wouldn't want DS to get oestrogen .....

Bewildered at your dinner date. We hae not left house after 6pm as afraid of unsettling him or making him sleep til bedtime! But lovely nevertheless , hope you enjoy the company

And I thought infacol only used when needed. God, I'm getting more useless as days go on.....

Enjoy baby group! Yay!!

Zara that is horrible! Hugs to you and DS.

Zara poor little thing and poor you. Will be thinking of you tonight and hoping all is well.

londonlivvy new parents meeting for an evening dinner... that is an interesting idea. I spend that time settling baby and frankly wouldn't go! Hope it's all ok, and good luck with the mum and baby group.
I'm glad the dairy-free is working a bit, you are a hero for doing that...

On the subject of baby/mum groups, I have been to a couple but I can't really seem to find enough in common with people whilst simultaneously trying to perform yoga and make jess not cry, so I haven't made any mates out of it.
I feel I am not very good at being a mum/ talking about being a mum and I also feel guilty that I find people a bit boring when they are just talking about their babies. This is a bit hard to explain without sounding like a nobber, but I find some groups (on one side of the city) extremely "yummy-mummy" and all the mums are kind of loud and pleased with themselves and seem to be constantly trying to compete for who has the best kit (it's probably insecurity but I find it a bit tiring sometimes, the girls who won't let you speak), and the ones round where I live the mums are very poor and much younger than me and mostly their english isn't that good and I am just a bit shy, about, being a doctor I guess, having a safe secure flat to live in, isn't that stupid? I must sound like a right cow, I don't mean to...
I miss male company, as well. Have always had lots of male friends and worked in jobs with lots of blokes. I wonder how it will be, for my boyfriend - we are both going part time in August and I've not yet seen a bloke at any of these groups.
Some days I feel like I just am not interested in speaking to people just because they have babies, but then I find you guys really interesting and fun so maybe I just should stick at it.
I am also lazy/lucky because I know three or four people on mat leave right now and I'd rather hang out with them because they're actually mates! Though i don't see them as much as I'd like.
I have been using maternity leave more to catch up with old friends who got neglected with the whole doctor thing than making new ones, really. Have quite a few mates who work shifts so they are sometimes around in the day as well.

Jeez, what a waffle squid.

Sorry you're feeling so sad Oreniishi . I often don't want to burden DH when I feel crap because he has so much else to deal with, but then he's the only person I have to talk to . Please accept my bony, hunched shoulder to cry on.

Zara, that's very worrying. I hope the fever comes down quickly and you get out the hospital soon.

Well done on going dairy free Livvy, sounds like it was worth it. glad the muslin worked.
We often go out for dinner, usually DS sleeps through it. Doesn't really affect his routine, because, well, we don't have one . But yes, six babies at one table will be interesting!

Went Christmas shopping today with MIL. She's so protective of DS, like he's a china doll. It does drive me a bit crazy. Anyway, managed get most presents so it was quite a successful day. I bought 2 boxes of chocolates from Godiva to send to family in the UK, but I don't know if they're going to make it - I'm salivating just thinking about them.

I think DS's Christmas present might be an Ergo baby carrier . I'm giving up with the Moby. Some days I put him in and think he's ok, so we go out but as time goes on he gets lower or I think his chin's too close to his chest or something. Also he always fights being put in so it's really horrible doing it when out and about. I'll need one for flying home in March anyway. That's my excuse...

And finally...had sex last night! 'twas very nice. Bit painful at first and thought I couldn't continue, but shifted round a bit and was fine.

Oh actually, quick question for those that are having sex...
What are you doing with regards to boobs?
Milk was leaking everywhere and nipples really sensitive, so had to leave them out the equation entirely and keep bra on.
Is that how it's going to be from now on?

Room for a little one? My DD arrived on the 29th, so is six weeks now.

I've only read the beginning if this thread but am a bit freaked out now. Mine doesn't smile, doesn't have "naps" and the idea if self setting is foreign to us... She cries, I feed her, then she goes to sleep on me, she wakes, she cries, we change her nappy, she cries, I feed her and repeat every two hours. She wakes twice in the night.

That's it. We have no bed time routines she just comes into out bed when I go.

How do you know to do all of the stuff you're doing?,

Plus I feel we don't do shy interacting when she's awake because she's nnot all crying. Won't go on a play mat, in a bouncy chair it swing. God, I'm worried she's really abnormal now.

Welcome!

Don't be worried BoraBora! All babies are different, and yours would be one of the youngest on this thread. I call any sleep that doesn't happen at night a nap.

I had an episiotomy FirstTime, didn't get any advice and have been feeling fine for a while now, so just went for it.

Zara oh dear - how long has he had the post-jabs fever? DS developed one after his and I gave him children's ibuprofen. (I know he's less than three months but he was over 6kg and it's licensed for 2mo+ in the US. Plus it was all I had and DH was away so I couldn't send him out ... Do I sound as though I'm making excuses? I am.) He had the jabs at 2pm and was fine by the following morning. Let me know how it goes.

londonlivvy Is dairy-free just cows' milk, or all animal milk? Sheep's and goats' milk is closer to breastmilk in composition and you can get the yoghurt, cream, milk and butter from Ocado. I have sheep's milk yoghurt for breakfast as my acupuncturist says it's more easily digested. You can tell I live in north London, can't you? Sorry.

Elpis I think it is just cows milk but it wasn't a v long appointment and I'm not sure I took it all in. You certainly can't get sheep milk in our village shop but I feel sure sainsburys will deliver! Am going back to doc on thurs so will have to double check.

Welcome first time and bora

Hope temp is down, Zara

Ouch FirstTime Not surprised you're not looking forward to it!

Hmm, I'm just concerned as she doesn't seem to like anything...

hello all. I have come to terms with the new app but sometimes i am reading backward before I realise it.
Huffle I have showed Dh some of the mighty boogers too .
yomping your feelings are why i dumped those books. Head wrecking stuff .
re tummy time. i think it is to encourage head control which BF does. My excuse as i haven't done it.

Yes Lisbeth, I was thinking that (about BF and head control). Also I think when they're on your chest, or even shoulder, could be considered tummy time.

I saw a woman breastfeeding today and I'm so jealous. it was just such lively calm feeding for about half an hour. I just can't do that. my baby feeds furiously and noisily for 5-10 mins at a time and that's it. she was weighed at 6 week check yesterday and is comfortably gaining a good amount and is going straight along the 50th line on the graph so she is getting enough. it's just not lovely and relaxed like that. I'm terribly envious of those of you who feed like that.
hey bora and welcome firsttime!
right will settle down with a brew in a bit and catch up on all your posts.

London think... are you sad baby feeds too fast? think 2am, 4am...
I have a gobbler too.
Funny story. we are co sleeping (hate that term ) and feed half asleep/awake . Anyway realised I was offering boob through fabric . Poor baby .

I have a furious feeder too! Was one of reasons that BF group was so upsetting for me! Never mind that I flash my entire boob. Being brave for me is feeding in kitchen rAther than living room.........

So want to post, so not being given opportunity by DS......

Lady in Marks n Spencer says to me 'oh he's a lovely big boy, what is he about 4 months? My grandson is the same age' She went v red when I said 8 weeks tmrw......!!

Feeling better today, for support. Realise I am too hard on my self but no idea how not to be! Squid, what you said about undermining myself was very perceptive, you made me realize that's exactly what I was doing. It's so easy to doubt yourself though. I also realised I'm an authority at work and used to knowing how to do everything, so the feeling of not knowing the right thing to do totally throws me! Saw doctor today, he gave me tel. no. for local counselling service and also prescribed me a book!! kind of a self help thing. Will keep an open mind... trying to have me time every day and making myself relax. I always feel loads better when DH is home as well.

Zara, thinking of you, hope temp comes down quickly.

Bora, mini yomping was EXACTLY like that until about 6 and a half weeks. she seemed to hate being alive. Then over a couple of days she just... cheered up. Now she smiles and chats and has started to play with stuff like being at this on play mat. hang in there, it will get better!