October babies. Don't get lost

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Omg cherry and wantan. So jealous. We had two waking in the night, she's barely slept all morning and is a screamy bundle of overtiredness. I don't know what to do with her. Sleep goddammit, you will feel better, I promise. Sigh.

Huffle, the week before last something seemed to click into place with DS and he seemingly developed over night, interacting more etc. I'm sure it was his vision. I think I read somewhere that at around 5 weeks their eyes start focussing together or something...

Livvy, when DS is overtired it's almost like I have to "break" him (sounds horrible when I put it like that) - I shush and rock through all his crying and struggling, on and on even when it looks like its not going to work, not changing the position or the method, then suddenly he gives up and falls asleep. But you've probably tried that...
Anyway we'll see what tonight brings. He's been down for about 2 hours, but I'm only just getting into bed now.

huffle lots of farts here too but no pooo!! this morning she did one and swear to god, it sounded like a grown man's fart. i had my hearing aid off and everything but i still heard it!! was tempted to blame DP for it but it vibrated all over my stomach- it was definately her!!!
squid i hope you feel better soon. being ill is shit- as soon as you feel better organise yourself a nice day and have that as your birthday instead dont feel crap about not being back to pre-pregs weight!! its only been 10/11 weeks hasnt it? you have done so amazingly well to be out and about running god im so lazy already- i think you are a superhero!! bear hugs for you xxxx

squid big hug and lots of sympathy. I'm in sort of the same boat. minus your willpower and exercise. how old is Jess? about 10 weeks? jeez girl give yourself a break, seriously! these things take time and your body is doing what it needs to primarily for your baby. listen to your boy, forget the stupid scales and be kind to yourself. you're run down, don't stress.

Yomping have a wonderful guilt free night out.

sorry on brand new phone here and struggling a bit. you should see some of the predictive typos that are being painstakingly deleted! this is hard work.

we are officially Maison snot and it officially sucks. ds2 is so loud at night, snoring. and coughing and snuffling about it's sodd ing impossible to sleep. yawn. is it the weekend yet?

got our doctor check tomorrow to see if his weight is still dropping and to have an update on his chest. fingers crossed.

on the debate about more children, yeah maybe put that on the back burner for a few months??! I am somehow managing despite an absolutely horrific time with pnd with ds1. I'd always wanted 3 but I think I'm going to have to admit defeat at 2, and the relief that thought gives me is very telling. I know my limits, I guess.

guess who's awake again, poor snotty thing. sigh.

Hey peeps! Proper catch up later but lesson of the day: never go into the cheap card shop with a buggy 2 weeks before Christmas. It was like robot wars in there, only with buggies...

Squid, I am officially slapping you round the face with a wet muslin nappy kipper. Behave yourself woman! It took 9 months for your body to build the supplies you needed to nourish and feed a baby. You cannot expect most of it to simply melt away in 10 weeks. You are (as usual) being too hard on yourself (I should know!). Give it time and give your boyfriend a prod somewhere tender from me idiot man. And maybe go back and read almost any of the things you have told me in response to my own meltdowns, they are exactly the sort of things you need to hear right now but you write them much more eloquently than I could

Or, if you would prefer the gently gently response: have a hug and some , poor girl, I bet you are feeling rotten with the cold and then the weight thing has hit you harder than it otherwise would. You are brave for weighing yourself at all, I haven't dared.

We took Alice swimming for the first time today, in her hot pink (and massive) wetsuit. She liked it some of the time, wasn't sure some of the time and grizzled a bit, but overall it wasn't too traumatic! We are a bit skanky and don't bath her much so she hasn't had that much time in water yet, so she did really well. Going to make it a weekly thing. She has been zonked out, apart from feeding, ever since (4 hrs and counting). Hmm...

feelings about birth - similar to Orenishii, still feel that I let myself down (I know, I know, too hard on myself right?) but overall having heard lots of far more traumatic birth stories, feel a bit crap for making such a fuss about mine. I wrote a long birth story out intending to stick it on here for catharsis but never did as I felt like I was being pathetic compared to some of you hardcore nutters who went through much more trauma and took it all in your stride! I want another child, definitely, maybe 2 more but think I'm too old to have 2 more unless it's twins. I think second time round is highly likely to be... if not easier, certainly shorter and for me that will be easier because the length of time everything took, and the corresponding strain on my back, was one of the things that contributed to my birth being so hard. I'd still go for a homebirth with a birthing pool next time and I'd request G&A from the start.

Christmas - heading to deepest darkest suburb of London on Xmas day for a few hours with my folks and family, many of whom have not yet met Alice. Simultaneously looking forward to it and dreading it. Want to show her off, as obviously she is amazing pfb syndrome but equally think it will be very full on and possibly a bit much for her me! DH and I , who are not very sentimental, are seriously debating whether to bother buying Alice a present, partly because she will get loads from others but mainly because, well, she won't have a clue what is going on! So who would we actually be doing it for? Are we cool, convention-bucking, sensible people, or are we just total humbugs?

I hav a toothache. Months of nausea and now slovenliness means teeth neglected. V bad girl . Apt on Tuesday. Likely need a filling

Anyone kno of I'll be able to hav local anaesthetic injection with BF???

hufflepuffle Local anaesthetic no problem.

Btw, there's a free app called LactMed that lets you search for medications to see if they're safe for bf. Most things are!

squid

Like Yomping said. But also: I too didn't lose much weight until DD was 6mo, and it seems to be the same this time. The milk you make changes as they get older and I suspect that has a lot to do with it. Don't be hard on yourself. I ended up thinner than I ever was pre-baby (and that was before I was ill last year).

Thank you Elpis. You are lovely and helpful as ever!!

Whenever I wonder if I'm eating too much, I remind myself that DS put on 170g in six days despite his revolting abscess. That's nearly 30g a day. And he still needs to produce several sodden nappies and shoot crap across the bathroom with the sheer force of his explosive farts. On top of that he needs energy to breathe, grunt, flail, swipe toys, mither and generate huge amounts of sulphurous gases. No wonder I need a lot of toast and pudding.

I like your thinking Elpis

That's perfect Elpis!
You should get that ^^ exact quote made into fridge magnets so we can all stick one on our fridge to remind ourselves.
How is DS and his abscess? Hope it's healing well.

Hear, hear Elpis!

Quick question for all you 2nd timers on BF. In time do breasts stop so obviously filling? Coming up to feeding time they can be v full and swollen. Does that keep happening? Will I go up and down 4 cup sizes continually??! Just wondering!

Just expressed 5oz as DS did not feed as greedily as normal earlier. Actually think he is settling a bit and not being as greedy this past few days. Hoping me starting to express again doesn't cause over supply! Apparently with thrush you can actually express but only use now whilst still treating, no freezing. Will be good to get him familiar with bottle again.

I shall leave that question in the ether. DS asleep so I should be too!
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I forgot to say thanks for the info, Midget.
I've never heard of that and I doubt very much I'd be able to get hold of any here. Hope it works for you!

Urgh. Planned to catch up but have just spent hours writing the last baby gift thank you cards AND all the bloody Xmas cards AND wrapped presents AND tidied up AND packed Bean's bag for going away ON on Sat.

Also experimentally put Bean down to sleep at 10 rather than her usual midnight. This could all backfire horribly with her waking at 03:00 and not sleeping the rest of the night...

Can anyone suggest a lighter weight moisturiser for nipples which is not like lansinoh? So bloody sick of lansinoh. Wear pads so as does not stain bras. Still using thrush cream but hopefully nearly there. So hav had break from the sticky stuff and really can't be arsed with it! Can't go with nothing tho as nips v dry.

I'm all questions and no help at the mo!!

TIA
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huffle try paw paw (papaya) cream.smells lovely too.

Hey Yomping How did little swimmer sleep?! I did buy that last time you mentioned. It is nice! But I cannot find a definitive answer anywhere as to whether it is ok for baby to ingest. At this stage I am sick sore and tired of washing off thrush cream before every feed and I look forward to just whipping them out on demand again!! Given his new issues with wind I want to be totally happy he can feed on whatever I use.

Have been using papaya stuff on my dry lips! Tis lovely!

I am so susceptible to suggestions. Wonder how many things we hav bought on reccommendations here?? Biggest case on point being the bodysilk bras?!

Angelico to date I hav a list of 70 thank you cards to do and I am not even contemplating Christmas cards outside of immediate family! Want to order lovely picture cards from photobox for thank yous but keep missing promos! Hav not even bought all pressies, never mind wrap!!! Good on you girl!!!

Was about to ask where u going on Sat but think you said u going to visit home? Where do family live? South of Ireland? If so you will drive right past my house as we live off main road!

Wondering how your early night went? We did gradually move bedtime from 1,30 to 10.30 when we started a bedtime routine. Further movement has only resulted in random wakenings!! I am in awe of babies already in bed for 8ish!

is it good though to get a baby on beef easily? assuming that the first sleep is the longest of the might? isn't it better for them to sleep say midnight to 5am rather than 8pm- 3pm? we tend to dobig feed at 9pm, then midnight, then 3 then 5 or 6. Whether she's in bed by 8pm our not- doesn't make much difference to the schedule!

on beef easily! I meant in bed early. sleep deprivation plus predictive text is not working for me

And I was right to worry... She woke at 03:00 bang on target after her 5 hours, then woke at 7, then 08:30. Would have been fine if I hadn't gone to bed at 01:00... Bedtime returns to midnight tonight! DH and I are night owls and the midnight bedtime was working fine so moral is if it ain't broke don't fix it!

Huffle we got cards from Snapfish :) They are lovely but were quite dear and I ordered 60 but then we ran out. So generic ones for the last few people. And we are visiting friends ON as as sort of trial run for the family visits at Xmas...