April 2012 - Feeding, Facebook and finally summer!!

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Apologies for the rubbish thread title - thought I'd cobble something together though!

Hey laughingghomette ouch that sounds rough. We have pretty bad nights as well the very longest DS goes with out waking for a feed is 2 hours although mostly 1 1/2. Then from about 4am he strains for 3ish hours to poo by 7am he's calm! In the day he won't sleep longer than 30 minutes he's just a baby who likes to be awake!
I bf but even when iv done the occasional FF before bed it makes no difference - infact he's worse as then he suffers with wind Noahs 9 weeks 3 days im hoping by 12 weeks he'l settle. He also only sleeps in my bed or arms or pram if I'm out! It's really hard being sleep deprived - I have no good advice but go get a cuppa tea in a room on your own if your LO screams for 5 minutes so be it!

Hello all...I'm just sat here bf-ing a little boy who's convinced he's not tired...how've your days been?

Had a good day thank you - my mum had DS so had an easy day. DD had fun kicking about on her sheepskin in the garden and we did some food shopping and I did lots of washing as the sun was out and I could hang stuff in the garden.

So DS's best friend (who also goes to his nursery) has come down with chickenpox. It's not really worth keeping DS home from nursery tomorrow is it, if it's going round he'll have it already (he does two half days a week). Will Marianne have my immunity as she's EBF?

L has been so good today, she had a nice 2-3 hr nap on me, i was on the couch, and i sort of moved her on to the pillow and she stayed asleep! She also also sleeps well in her swing, its from mothercare. She cry's for a few mins, dummy pops out then she goes off. I think, she think someone is rocking her? I also tried walking round the garden today. She was happy in her pram but she just stayed awake!

No wind screaming today :) it maybe the infacol? or me getting rid of a little milk before bf?

I hope everyones babies sleep well tonight, for their mummys, fingers crossed.......

henreietta that was me between 5-7 this evening. Frankie refused to acknowledge that she was tired so shouted and screamed and thought she was hungry instead. When offered the boob she'd go for it then pull off quickly and noisily again and again. All the while shouting driving me wild after her bath and a decent feed she went in her Moses basket and passed out straight away.

I'm bloody shattered today so I'm about to join her

Well, he's finally gone to sleep - after a bath and feed too! It took him a while, but DH ordered me out of the room, as he could see I was a little emotional, and then he calmed and soothed the little one, and held his hand, which sent him straight off. I'm very lucky to have him.

Glass of red and a film now, I think...

BearCrumble it's a good question about the pox! Our friend's little girl had it, so he visited without her, but we looked it up and it appears that actually, this age isn't the worst age to get it at all. They are over the 'newborn' super vulnerable stage, but are young enough that if they get it, it's easier to stop them itching than when they're toddlers.

Be advised I'm not a medical professional; it's just what I read!

A question about wine, I enjoyed a glass of rose on Monday nite! How many are we allowed while BF? :) :)

Evening ladies!

Have been at a charity Zumba-thon all night, so DP did the entire bedtime routine by himself for the first time. Was expecting the worst but she's sound asleep and has been for two hours apparently - which makes me extra confident for my big night out on Friday, when DP will be in charge while I'm having alcohol related fun.

Hope all are ok.

newmummyvicky a couple of drinks should be fine - by the time your body has metabolised the alcohol then there should be a minute amount getting into the milk, as long as you've been sensible.

If you're having a bit of session then you're probably best off not feeding until morning, and pumping-and-dumping to keep your supply going. That's what I understand from what I've read, anyway.

Have spent most of today wearing ds2. But when he's been awake he's been very contented and happy to sit in bouncer or lie on the playmat while I get on with stuff. Just wants to sleep on me. Bath, feed & bed is still ok though. Too sticky for co-sleeping tonight.

Hope babies are well behaved tonight.

Hiya had a bit of a stressful day, not with DS funnily enough. I had to go into work today I'm still on mat leave even if the phone goes 10 times a day I manage a women's natural health & fitness centre and the amount of paper work that apparently staff had no clue what to do with was a joke. I went in today for 5 hours to catch up on everything. Luckily it's the kind of place that's ok to bring DS and my mum came in so she could play with him whilst I worked - although we had 100 women coming in all wanting a hold of him.
He was fine at the time but because there was so much going on he didn't sleep all day. When I got home actually on the way he was so over tiered he just cried - iv only just put him down ..... Will only be worth it if he sleeps through

I felt really overwhelmed going back and being around so many people. It's really unlike me. Im used to a crazy busy life but since DS came along its slowed and calmed everything down & i like it. I hated being in London and just wanted to be back home just us doing our thing. Noah got sooooo much attention and kisses and although he seemed fine I just wanted to get him home - felt like I was neglecting him - can't explain it but it stressed me out and made me feel uneasy don't ever want to work again. if I could just win the lotto whilst on maternity leave that would be fab! I'd have no problem being a lady who lunches, I worked 12 hour days up until the day my waters broke I deserve 10 years off for that surely lol.

Iv got a doctors appointment at 8.30am tomorrow - that's going to be fun getting out the house for that time. I'm hopefully going to come out with 50 prescriptions for drugs I can take for hayfever whilst BF apparently I can give birth with no pain relief or medication but I can't cope with a summer of hayfever without any lol

On a brighter note weighed myself today and am down to the weight I was at my booking in app which I reckon is 2-5lbs off my pre preg weight not 100% sure what I was pp but I know I put some on by 10 weeks!

Well thats it from the hayley household I'm finally off to bed now - shattered!

Hope your babies are all sound asleep until morning!

Night night xx

newmummyvicki, it's all about how much wine is in your system when you feed... So if you know the little one is going to sleep for a few hours, then you can have a few units no bother. Interestingly I expressed yesterday because I felt like having more than that, and yet my DH and I failed to finish a bottle between us! I've changed...my friends won't know me!

Aaaah; wine :-)

Had an afternoon of tears from DD (wind-still has bother shifting it despite my mum insisting she's teething & is now too old for wind to bs an issue :-/) & 4YO DD tantrum-ing due to being exhausted (Sports Day excitement Inc build-up & practice).

All the tears meant I stayed in with both & DH took older DD to Granny's alone instead, grabbing groceries enroute. Jokingly asked him to get a large bottle of wine too, which he usually ignores. But; whilst BBQ- ing our steaks for steak sarnies he set a LARGE glass of beautifully chilled Sauvignon Blanc on front of me. Dont think I've ever enjoyed a glass of wine more! Lovely lovely surprise. Hope you enjoyed yours Henrietta!

Hayley; don't worry about the work thing too much yet. It's too early & you're too tired for the workplace to be a happy inviting environment. You'll feel differently about it in a few months....for me both previous times the stress of thinking about going back totally exceeded the actual stress of going back (IYSWIM). Hope you're having a better night.

Jam: were you actually Zumba-ing? Good for you if so-v energetic! How did your shopping go (can you tell I'm a tad envious? I love shopping, even if it's window-shopping). It'll be a looong time before I get to shop in peace again. It'll be all Internet for a while (what little there is done!).

Night night: DD sound asleep so I should be too!

Jellybelly I really enjoyed it: lovely Rioja.

Hayley I'm with you on the return to work thing...dreading it. I'd quit in a heartbeat if I could (& I love my job!)

DS slept from midnight(our bedtime, when we change him & feed him) to 8.15 without a break! What a hero. Do that every night!

DS's sleep is getting worse! He goes to bed at about 11pm, sleeps until 2 and then either drops off for a couple of hours or starts feeding sporadically until we get up at 7.45 (if he goes off after the 2am feed then the on-off feeding starts at about 4 or 5 am!)

Either way, by 8.15am he's screaming for a proper feed

We're co-sleeping so I'm not up and down all night at least, but I'm wondering if that's the problem - once he's awake at 2am, the smell of milk is keeping him awake and making him bob on and off perhaps?

It's often why BF mums find it trickier than dads to settle a baby so may have to try to get DS into his Moses basket, a bit of space may stop him smelling the milk and trying to feed instead of sleep. He bloody hates the Moses basket though Have tried swaddling, sleeping bag and a blanket I've had on me to try get my smell, as well as waiting until he's completely flat out before putting him in. Putting him down awake just results in him sobbing with big fat tears. Little monkey has had big fat tears from day 1, unusually

He's feeding like a newborn in the day too (9w+4) and for the first time I've been thinking about swapping to FF - but then I think I'm so close to 12w, which is when it's supposed to get easier that I don't want to stop yet.

His poo is the green foremilky poo again so am going to feed from one side for a few hrs before offering the other like some of you did earlier.

Any more suggestions?

Jelly Yup! Several hours, for charity. I'm an instructor but used this for a bit of fun and to see just how badly my fitness levels have dipped!

Sleep wise - my DD goes from about 8pm until 4/5am. That's ok, but the waking at that time usually means I can't get back to sleep. An hour more and we could just get up for the day. A bit jealous of those with 'proper' all night sleepers, but have to remind myself she is one of the younger April babies, and what she sleeps is fantastic.

Oh, and the shopping? Not so great. I think, at 27 - I'm a bit of a funny age. I see all this super fashionable stuff, but when I put it on it looks ridiculous, and I'm too young for the more serious stuff?

Didn't get anything for my nights out at all - will prob end up in my old faithful little black dress!

fliss my ds sounds pretty much identical to yours (ds1 was also the same). Haven't really got any suggestions really, wish I did.

Block feeding may well help with the green poo issue. I try & move away bait from ds when in bed & he is flat out but still end up with him latched on in the early hours. Think I just move back to him when I'm half asleep.

Feeding will get more spread out in the day though as he gets bigger. He'll get easier to distract & quicker at feeding. Hang on in there with bf if you can. With it seemed more of a slog up to 6 months & from then was just the best thing ever. Also nothing to say he'd be much better at sleeping at night. I have known lots of mum's with ff babies that don't sleep either.

Keep going, you are doing a grand job. (I am trying to remind myself this too!)

After 9 nights sleeping through (22.15-07.45 was the record!!), DD chooses the ONLY night that mum drinks 2 glasses of wine & stays up till 01.30 to waken TWICE! What's all that about?! Bet that's the end of my full night's sleep. DH away at 5 Tom am for the w'end & away 6 days next week, so would be bloody typical of it all to go pear-shaped :-(
Sorry if my rant has annoyed those of you yet to get a nights sleep. I do know how that feels (my 4yo has really only started sleeping through recently).

I'm back in the sleepy club today, feeling a bit tearey too! Last nite she was feeding every 3 hrs and at the 330am feed, i couldn't get her back down till 5am. One step forward and two back! I thought the 8 hr thing was just a one off :(

Dh was grumpy too he has to get up at 5am to start work at 6. I tried to keep her quiet but she cried for food and with wind. Plus I was feeding her in bed at 430, coz i thought she was still hungy! Dh said i was leaving her crying which i wasn't! I think he was knackered too. Must be hard when U have work the next day? She fell asleep finally at 5, in our bed, then he lifted her into crib.

Poor you Fliss & Buns; having a tough time in the day & night is really hard. It's one or the other here & when Em's not letting me set her down in the day/feeding non-stop it's possibly more frustrating than night waking. Sooo hard to deal with baby, DD1&2 & house all at once.

Fliss; maybe DS has gone back to feeding super frequently because he's not getting enough hind milk? Maybe the block feeding for a bit will sort your supply out & enable him to go longer? As for the nights, that's not s'thing I know much about. Have only co-slept when I fall asleep during first night feed (ie every night Inc last night :-/), but it didn't seem to encourage DD to feed more often. Think you're right about the smell though & is it possible that comfort & not hunger is the drive for DS to feed frequently at night?

You've tried everything I'd suggest in trying to get DS to accept his Moses Bskt. We gave up & use the pram instead which works for us. The only other thing you may not have tried is putting him on his tummy? Controversial & you may not want to go there I know. I experimented with DD during the odd nap initially, as she was happier on me/DH than a'where else. It works for us but we have a breathing sensor pad & monitor in her pram, which would alert us immediately to any problem.

You are so close to 12 weeks now! Take 1 day at a time & promise yourself that you'll feed today & reassess tomorrow. Remember This Too Shall Pass....But if it's too much: you've done an amazing job so far. It's been really rough with such frequent feeds & over 2 months of broken nights. DS has already benefitted greatly by what you've done & won't lose that if you stop now.

Yes fliss your doing a great a great job, this bf isn't easy! What do U wear in bed? I probally would say its the smell of milk making little one feed more. I try to wear a top or nightie at night when L is sleeping with me she doesn't tent to smell it as much, and I can get her to sleep on me after a feed.
Worth a try?

L is munching on her hand alot! Anyone else little ones do this? if there is no dummy there she seem to put the hand to the mouth! It is too early for teething? She does dribble abit now too!

Thanks for advice on drinking, gonna have a few then express and dump! I do think I be only having a couple. Not drinking for nearly a year has made me a light weight! My friends won't know me too! Lol

fliss sorry you're having a rough time I really admire what you and all the other bf mums have done. I think if you will regret stopping now keep going (speaking from experience here) but if you do switch to ff don't beat yourself up about it as you have done amazingly.

jam im 26 (nearly 27) and agree its hard with clothes. The young stuff is really young but the mature stuff is a little too mature.

Weather is rubbish here so I'm in leggings and a hoody and kids are having a pj day. Pointless getting all dressed up with nowhere to go, will make some homemade pizzas for dinner with my 4yo if Aaron allows. He is so clingy atm!

Hope all the babies sleep better soon.

newmummyvicky I'd given up on pyjama tops to make it easier to feed DS in the night, but yes, that could help. Worth a shot!

He wont sleep in the pram either, and front sleeping isn't really something I want to do until DS can roll. And I know FF won't make him sleep (DD was waking in the night until 14mo) but at least I could get DH to do alternate nights then but BF is so convenient in comparison in every other way. I've always said I'm not keen on the 0-6m period, I maintain that! 16w to go...

newmummyvicky DS sucks on his hands too - the neonatal nurse told us it is their way of self-soothing, which is a good thing.

We've been thinking of getting a dummy to help soothe DS when he kicks off out and about and it isn't possible to feed him straight away. We had been using the suckling on the ilttle finger trick, but the other day his very vigorous sucking resulted in my fingernail scratching the roof of his mouth I felt terrible!

Has anyone using bottles experienced their LO having milk go down the wrong way? It has only happened a couple of times, but it is horrible to watch! Any suggestions on how to avoid it? I try and sit him upright as much as I can, but then the milk doesn't seem to fill the teat properly.

DS treated me to 3 hrs between feeds last night, which was an improvement! I can't believe some of your LOs are already sleeping for long stretches! It is DS's due date today, so I guess we still have some time to go before he can last for longer between feeds.

Off out for tea with one of my friends from antenatal class this afternoon, then will probably tackle a lot of laundry later! I'm hoping the weather improves for the weekend - my midwife team is hosting a picnic.