October 2011: Crawling, teething and (we hope) sleeping through

[Penelope1980]

Sorry guys - posted the 1000th message without realising , so hopefully you can all find this thread!

omg penguin that's awful. my sympathies to you and your family. i hope he gets the help he needs to pull him out of the dark place he must be in. x

cheshire if you want to rant, you should rant.

i think that if we all went about not ranting cos others are worse off, then nobody would let off steam! your feelings are just as important, even if its over dp's leaving seat up, socks on floor or dog bringing in dead mice etc !!! if it bothers you, it bothers you.

forgot to say that dp got the other job and turned it down. he didnt even bother to find out the package beforehand! i would have, but its his decision. it means italy is still on, so im not too bothered.

sil got results today and they have stayed the same.
so it hasnt completed gone. she will need more treatment.
dont know any more than that as dp spoke to her, but we are all out for a meal on sat, so will know more then.

i need to sleep! going to try again, and hopefully nod off this time.

eva has woke the last 2 nights arghhhhhhhh!

cheshire I agree with sassy, rant away. I feel guilty as I've new crap at updating and when I do I rarely get opportunity to read up properly - then when I try and respond I mess it all up on my iphone. Thanks for support re ds

sassy sorry that your SIL has not improved. Hard to know what to say, I take it she had some treatment to try and shrink it? Thanks for our post, yes ds is still the same lovely little boy. It's not him that worries me, it's how he may be treated by others. Wow at Eva, clever girl. Bet he's waking wanting to explore more . Jessica wriggles around the room now and makes a beeline or whatever Samuel has

scheh glad you have been getting leave. I second what cheshire said, awful thing for nursery nurse to describe him like that at 6/7 months they don't have evil or wicked anything (and never do IMO). I hope he sleeps well for you tonight x

penguin oh no for your dbro. Does he have history of depression or was there any warning? How scary for you all

littlepebble - thanks, I agree re labelling. It took a long time for dh and I to agree to having him assessed. Preschool called us in the summer break about it and it was only around Christmas we agreed to get ball rolling.

strawberry our view for getting him assessed was to make sure that any help he needs is available and the he isn't labelled disruptive/naughty. It is good that he's high functioning tho as given the diagnostic options it is probably the most positive. Dh is prob HFA as well according to paed and he's done very well too

All this was typed while sat on loo tmi, but only bit of peace I get . Bedtime now. Fingers x'd for a good night sleep for all xxx

penguin mama and scheh - I really hope you are all ok, sounds like you all have different but significant things on your plate right now. Golly.

mamma if you don't mind my asking, how old is your DS? I get worried about autism sometimes as baby rocks a lot and bangs a lot, but I am possibly just reading too much into it.

penguin hope everyone is doing ok, is your dbro alright?

cheshire I agree with mama and sassy you should rant if you need to, hope whatever it was you wanted to rant about has got better

Sending hugs to those in need -

Mama I'm sure it's a shock, hoping that it becomes a positive thing for you and DS as he gets the support he needs at school etc.

Penguin - hoping that your db is safe and recovering. What a terrible shock for you and your family .

Cheshire we all need a rant hon, go ahead if you need to.

Scheh hoping you get a better day. I agree with everyone who said that nurse was awful to say that about a baby

penguin hope DBro is ok? Does he have history of depression? You're having a tough time at mo with car breaking down, DS etc. hope you are ok x

Scheh I am at the nurse that is awful! As mama said NO baby is wicked or evil. I often think about how babies are naturally designed to be by nature, think about cavemen etc. and how babies would have been treated if we hadn't evolved so much. I think babies are meant to be carried and fed permanently for the first year (a bit like monkeys) so having a DC that doesn't want to be put down is only natural. I think we as a 'civilised' society teach our babies differently but it is basically going against their natural instincts. C isn't a difficult baby he just needs his mummy more than some other babies, so I think you should just give in to that and give up on housework etc. and eat lots of cake sat on the sofa snuggling him
Sassy hope DSis is ok, and YAY for Italy! (is this holiday or permanent move? Where to?) x

Oh and Cheshire please rant!

I was up with E from 3.30 til 5am can't seem to get him to sleep through, but we do have tooth number three this morning just breaking through! (and he's grinding his teeth already!) x

Have been doing a lot of lurking this week, but couldn?t not post after hearing so many mummies.

mama sorry to hear about ds dx. As a teacher, I think that ?labels? are a good thing. I find that it means I can tailor my lessons and support my students better (if they need it), and make allowances where appropriate. And the ?label? is mainly intended for ed/healthcare professionals, it doesn?t affect the way that you, your family and DS?s friends interact with him. I think a lot of parents feel the way you do about getting their children assessed. But I?ve seen it happen in the past that parents didn?t want to share the results of assessments for things like learning difficulties, and then we weren?t able to help the student properly and give them the support they needed .
sassy very sorry to hear about your SIL.

Go eva! M can turn around on his front and even did a little shuffle backwards but still no proper crawling.

penguin so sorry about your dbro. I hope that he gets the help he needs and that you?re okay.

scheh I know all babies are different but with M if he?s playing by himself and he notices that I?m there/in the same room, then he starts crying to get my attention/for me to pick him up. As long as he?s engrossed in his own world he?s fine. I think you?re doing the right thing taking time out in another room when you need it. As long as he?s in a safe place (bed, playpen) then just do it (I do all the time).

cheshire rant away?

Taking M for his first helmet check-up this afternoon.

thanks penguin (flattered!) and i really hope your DBro is ok, and the rest of you are too, what a shock that must have been for you all.

scheh, hope that things are getting easier with C, that was a pretty harsh thing the nurse said. i've been accused of being too soft with N, giving him lots of cuddles and attention, and i'm, in total agreement with pebble on that one

mama sorry to hear about DS. our nephew (8) is also high functioning autistic. e ended up changing schools and is now in a much better one that understands his autism and he's doin great. he can do things on computers it'd take a month of sundays for me to master!!

hope things are ok at M's check up engels

sassy hope SIL is ok and getting the treatment she needs

and cheshire feel free to rant away! does you good :) dont worry, dogs are very forgiving! (esp when theres food involved)

Thank you ladies, actually I have got over it now. I think yesterday I just had a lot on and realised I had spent about 14 hours alone with P, dog and cat. Now one of those on their own (not whinging) isfine but I lost theplot when the dog spent 45 minutes crying because he could smell meat in the oven. Anyway hopefully he is having a good time at daycare today.

and of course he will get some more cheese Ipswich .

I wish I could improve my patience.

Odd feeling today, friends had a baby early this morning and text to tell us. I felt a bit when I read it. Stupid because I know I am very lucky and P is fab but I think it was because we wanted another so close in age to P and it's not happening, I think it is because P is still a feeding monster . I don't like things not going to plan .

I am very very grateful for P, another friend of ours has been trying for 2 years and another for 18 months and both have had mc so they would def have a right to be . Just was shocked at my own odd feeling. Might be more pro-active with dtd tonight .

What happens now then Sassy for your SIL?

How was the appointment Engels?

Pebble is right about the noisy baby thing, it's survival of the fittest from the caveman days. The noisy babies didn't get eaten by predators

well, check-up went well. M's head has rounded out quite a bit. An improvement of 8mm in only 4 weeks (whatever that means!). Another check up in 4 weeks and soon after a ohysio/hospital appt.

he'll have the most beautiful head in Holland by the time he starts nursery in August!

Cheshire, I'd love another too but the thought of being pregnant again fills me with dread, I had such a horrendous time with hyperemisis. However, I really want Lizzie to have a brother or sister so I guess I'll have to just get on with it. DTD also fills me with a bit of dread too , feeding has made me so dry that it's not been top of the agenda...!

So sorry that so many of you are having a tough time, give all your gorgeous babies an extra big cuddle and think of it as a hug from the rest of us on the thread.

Mamma, I just wanted to say to you that I agree with the wise mummy up the thread that said your ds's diagnosis doesn't change who he is but that it will help him educationally. I taught a delightful girl last year who was given a similar diagnosis while I was teaching her (she was 9). It didn't change the way I treated her in class but it did give me tips to help her work to her potential and, crucially, the label will be a big help in senior school as a shorthand between teachers to explain her needs and to get her access to any extra support she may need when doing exams. I'm sure that all seems very far away at the moment, but hopefully having the diagnosis done now means you can now just concentrate on enjoying him! Another wise mummy said he was very young for a diagnosis and I agree with that too!

Well, I went to work and survived! DH said that the afternoon was a nightmare! He was with a good friend of mine who offered to give him some moral support and to try to get Lizzie to take a bottle. No joy! Lizzie was screaming with a blotchy red face when I collected her...heartbreaking! I think I'm going to have to bite the bullet and just go cold turkey with the breast feeding. Do any of you think I could carry on giving a bedtime feed or will that just confuse and upset her? Am I better to just stop altogether? Argh, don't know what to do !

have you tried giving her it whilst she is lying on the floor?
it worked for me.
think being in someone arms makes them see it as bfing time.

It does seem to be working quickly Engels, that sounds really good :)

at the most beautiful head in Holland.

Yes I am not crazy about dtd either due to same reason because of bf MrsH would the hyperemisisis def happen again next time?

Aww I hate the distressed feeding cry. I remember DH ringing me when I went out for a drink because she would not take the bottle and I could hear her crying in the background :(Glad work was okay though (on a positive note) :)

P has this cup as she is a bottle refuser but bizarrely happy to hold and drink from this herself.....

www.amazon.co.uk/NUK-Disney-Learner-Non-Spill-Silicone/dp/B002P67W6W/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1336759941&sr=8-1-spell

I've said it before and i say it again: lube

mrshende you should be able to bf in the evening still. I bf at 7.30 am (before work), 5 pm (when I get home) and 7 pm ish when he goes down, then once in the night. All the rest are bottles. There were a couple of tough days while my milk supply was still in while I was trying to give him the bottle, but rode it out and it got better once he couldn't smell it anymore - the first day was tough, he kept clawing my chest and crying! Advice I got for dropping feeds - which worked - was drop one at a time, and not consecutive ones, and about 4 days apart. So mid morning first, then mid afternoon, then lunch etc.

cheshire I empathise with your feelings about friend's baby - no shame in irrational jealousy! I am someone who needs things to go to plan too, and struggled with that while TTC, that feeling that you can't know what is going to happen a year from now. I know anything could happen etc etc but I am so ordered in every other area of my life it was a learning curve wanting something so out of my control. Good luck!

It's sat morning here and I am happily on mumsnet watching my baby play (he was more into his toys than me!) feeling so so happy to be home after a week of work. YAY!

I'm really rubbish at keeping track of this thread, I read it all eventually but can't remember who said what much of the time.

mama as others have said, although it must be a shock I hope that it means that your ds can get access to support and understanding as he makes his way through school and other activities. I work with lots of young people with SEN and I treat them all as individuals, however sometimes - knowing their stress points etc (often associated with their diagnosis) can really help me to support them in getting the most out of things (I run an integrated youth theatre).

Sassy and penguin hope you're hope you're looking after yourselves with so much stress and worry.

Hugs to everyone who could do with it and hooray for the milestones and improvements - Link still isn't rolling as he hates being on his tummy but he sits incredibly well.

The thought of getting pregnant now terrifies me - eek to those wanting them close together - much as I adore my LO

I'm struggling at the moment, since moving Lincoln to his own room he's waking more and more and insisting on feeds - every bloody hour last night and I had work today - just so shattered. Ended up doing planning til 10:30pm last night but it was so crap I re-did it all on the train to work - I have no brain power left! I've been sleeping in his room with him to reassure him but going to go back to our room tonight. Was chatting to my dentist (whilst getting a filling) and she suggested my BM might be of low quality if I'm so tired out and stressed out and that might be leading to extra night feeds. Think he might be a bit clingy after the tummy bug too as DP had a really tough time with him today. He's still seems extra tired after it, gone back up to 4 naps a day mostly but he's been better for almost a week. Ergghh should just go to bed but I'm gonna squeeze in a quick bath.

Sorry I've probably missed loads of stuff/people out

Well I just can't keep up and there is so much to read that I've forgotten who said what by the time I go to post, but I will try...

Engles yey for the head. Sounds promising.
Ed Hope you're able to get some help if you think you need it.
for Cheshire's dog .
at Grovvvy's holiday. FB photos are lovely.
Sch hang on in there. The others are right - babies don't know how to be naughty. They just have trouble communicating what they want. Have you thought about baby signing?

to all who need them.

I've been back at work for three weeks now. Not been too bad. It's nice that dh has taken over for 3 months so at least I know Seb is at home with his daddy. Besides it's so busy that I don't have much time to miss him. It's lovely getting home to big grins each day!

Weaning going Ok but slowly. Seb eats pretty much anything we give him but doesn't eat much and is not a fan of picking things up off the tray, he prefers being handed stuff (and dropping it on the table!). We're mixing mush and blw. His fav food is banana porridge - he cries if he thinks it's finished!

Hey everyone, hope you have had a good night. My dh let me sleep in until 9.30m - bliss! I feel so rested. Don't think I have slept that long since before J arrived!

Sassy, sorry about your sil, hope things get easier. My mum just started her chemo this week. All ok so far, but I think it will get harder as she goes along

mama I don't think I can say anything better than what others have said. As those with experience in teaching etc all say knowing can only be a good thing, it may be good to focus on that, and that your gorgeous quirky little boy is still the same, just that others will know better what is best for him. All the best, as it must have been a shock to have it said to you

penguin hope your bro gets the help he needs.

engels wow! Big change. Sounds like it is really working well. Glad that all the 'doinksl' are worth it!

I just came back from a lovely hol with my family for my mums bday. It was lovely, but holidays are not the same with a baby! Usually my dh and and will sleep lots.... Just a distant memory now!

Exciting news, didn't wake J for his dream feed and he slept through! I have been gradually reducing it, been at 2oz for the last few days so hoped he would manage it. My baby is really growing up!

well we are back home. Being at my parents was bad for DS's skin but we have an appointment for that anyway on Monday.

thanks for comments btw, I will not return questions as it is just too much to go into.

emmazed sorry about your mum, hope her journey through it all goes as smoothly as it can go

Wow lots of posts!

Thanks all, you make me feel a lot better. I don't think the nurse was saying C is like that, just that his temper is wicked. And.....to be honest it is. He's gorgeous and wonderful, and today he got a fit of the giggles and couldn't stop and I felt like I was in such a happy wonderful place. It was lovely :) . But when he's in a bad mood...he's inconsolable. He doesn't want me, or to be held, he wants to be carried round outside and look at things and have constant stimulation, which wasnt possible when I was ill, and difficult given I live in a tiny village, and the weather is atrocious! Oh well, this too shall pass and all that. Like I say, today he was wonderful. I found out that he really likes to be held upside down ( )

MrsHende - I was able to cut out daytime breastfeeding, and just kept the morning and bedtime feeds, and bottle fed through the day. It took him a week to accept the bottle, he'd only take 1-2oz at a time, but he got it eventually.

fab news engel you must be so happy :)

el have you tried CC? It really worked for C, he self settles really well. (He's a nightmare during the day, but every night he sleeps 12 hours)

Sorry to hear about your mum emma glad you had a nice time away.

tally what sort of hours are you working? The hardest thing I am finding about working is that A is tired and scratchy when I go home, and goes to bed before 7. Am trying to make it later so I get longer with him, but no luck

Pen I do flexi so tend to get to work just after 8 and then get home for about 5 so have about 2-2.5 hours before he goes to bed, although I do dinner in that time. He's generally quite happy and I get a big grin when I get in most days .

First proper night out since Seb came along or about 5 years!! drinks and a dance at a local nightspot (I felt sooooo old!!) and ended up adjourning to a nearby pub for a coffee so we could talk, rather then shout over music!

OMG just noticed the time when I posted - I need to go to bed! Seb won't do a lie in just because I need one!

A very quiet Sunday on here!

Have just had my first (Dutch) Mother's Day. "M" wrote me a poem saying that he's glad to have such a sweet and lovely Mummy and he's asked Daddy if we can go out for dinner together. (TBH I wasn't expecting ANYTHING so this was a very pleasant surprise!). Have spent the day in the (rather cold) sunshine with my ILs.

Just MIL-proofed the house, ready for going to work tomorrow (only a one day week for me this week as Thurs is bank holiday here - yay!). Now going to crack open a beer and put my feet up. Happy Sunday everyone