December 2011 (drop-in) - The Trouble With Dribbles

[LittleMissFlustered]

Well, I don't know about sleep regression - we got sleep progression last night. Woke at 1 and 4 and that's it!

Morning all, just trying to catch up on the thread!

With baby rice, I find the best way to make it up is pour 30mls of milk into a bowl, and then add approx 2/3 weaning spoons of baby rice into the bowl, this way it doesn't go lumpy.

I agree that there does seem to be an anti baby rice thing on MN, but DS loves it and I've tasted some and can't see the problem, it tastes of milk not wallpaper paste.

I've also noticed on MN that most people are in favour of BLW, and also very against weaning before 24 weeks. I've made the decision to wean early (17 weeks) as I felt like I was starving DS by not giving him solids, milk alone was not cutting it and although it has more calories, he needs something to fill him up and not just drain straight through him. I can honestly say I have noticed the difference and I feel he is a much happier baby as a result.

Today, I'm going to try pear purée and see what DS thinks! He's still not convinced by apple, I think it's a little too tart for him, so I might try mixing it with milk next time. Carrots were a definite hit though!

Sorry for all those with colds and unhelpful men! Hopefully both will improve soon!

On another note, this week DS has mastered the art of rolling from his back to his tummy :o

Oh dear figgy, not a stoic then your DH?!

Hurrah for the Octopus, he's doing better than DS here. He's not settled after his night-time feeds apparently, although I've told DP he gets less sympathy, as he won't come to bed at the same time as me, but stays up for another hour or so on the computer. Numptie.

As I have an evening meeting, I'm going into work later, and taking DS and DP with me. Means I can feed DS at lunchtime, and then express this evening.

LO wouldn't go to sleep in his crib. No surprise there! So he slept with us. He can scream the house down and make us worry about what might be wrong (fed: check, nappy: check, temp: check, comfy clothes: check,...). He can be inconsolable and cry until he coughs and splutters and gags, and you rock, coo and cuddle, sing songs, swap hold position, swap parent, - scream scream scream, ... lie him down in our bed - silence, bright eyes and smile. The little bu**er!
I fed and changed him at 10.30pm, he woke at 1.30 and 4.30am, our alarm goes off at 5.30am. If I could just get him to only one wake up...
I'm not withholding feeds or attempting dummies this week due to his bad cold. I've figured he needs the feed and the strength, and the help with antibodies. When he's clear of the lurgy, I'll try to get him into a routine that suits.
The last two days he's had a good 2 hour sleep in the afternoon. We love this. DH and I watched films we've saved on TIVO. yesterday we watched The League of Extraordinary gentlemen, which was immense silliness entirely fitting of a lazy Sunday afternoon.
DH agreed to do today's drop off, so I got in work at 7. :) SIL has him Mondays, and wanted the pram - so I put forward it would be easier for him as we didn't have to pull it apart, it could go "whole" in his van. Such logic can not be argued with, and he wouldn't dare as he knows from this thread what is and what is not acceptable behaviour.
DH carried him away in his snowsuit and I had a lump in my throat again.

Some progress here too. Bed at 7.30, settled at 12.30 then fed at 5.30 then awake at 7.30. Best night ever!

I don't think DD did a 4 month sleep regression as she was already waking/feeding every 1/2/3 hours and its difficult to regress from that! Now she's nearly 5 months so hopefully it will only get better?!

Can't believe DD is nearly 5 months already. Definitely goes quicker second time around!

Oi hope it starts to get easier soon. I have heard people say that their LO started waking up and also feeding more in the night when they went back to work so sounds totally normal. I guess he's making the most of the time he has with you! Is he sleeping any better in the day now?

Blergh

10.30, 1.10, 3, 5.30 zonk

But he didn't seem that hungry and just buggered about quite a lot. Like boi once he made it into our bed he settled right down...was he cold, lonely? Bob only knows.

Housework for me today:
Washing already on
Tidied the living room just need to polish & Hoover
Need to flash the bathroom & kitchen.
Also need to do the dreaded bit of ironing I have.
and clean the hamster and empty the kitchen bin.

So not alot for me today

Hawthers, Oi, much the same here. Slept on me, screamed when put in cot. Fed for max 5 mins before falling asleep on me again, screamed when realised in cot on own. Repeat between 1am and 8am. Sigh.

3 loads of washing done (the sun has appeared!!), chocolate brownies in the oven, just need to shower then off to canvas for DH (put leaflets through letter boxes).

Have planned myself a 5 mile route so I can eat the aformentioned brownies guilt free when I get to SIL's house

Oi the fairies arrived! Well, DM took DS for 5 hours on Saturday so I could move the unpacked boxes into one room (out of sight and all that) and everything else now at least looks unpacked.

Sicky bug here for DP and I. Good lord I feel rough

Changing a poopy nappy when you feel sick is a challenge in itself! I think me and Freya are going to head back to bed shortly.

Bit of a bug here also. I feel Soooo rough and worn out, yet I'm already on anti-Bs. (I guess this one's viral then. DH can take LO to Todler group without me this afternoon while I do sod all recuperate. In too weeks time I'll be back at work and don't have the option.

Sympathy to all the rest of you with lurgy!

Hate expressing at work... Still don't know how loud the pump is and if it's massively obvious to everyone. Have a big 1m wide floor to ceiling window to the open plan office outside. There should have been blinds fitted before my return, but they aren't here yet, so i close the door and cower behind an open lever arch file on my desk. (as if it wasn't humiliating enough!!!)
But then comes the walk of shame as I open my office door and take my milk bag, surrepticiously concealed in a brown envelope, to the kitchen fridge.
I just pray that no one looks in the envelope when it's in the fridge - although it must look odd.
But what's the alternative? Move to ff? Or wind down the day supply and hope the evening supply still continues? gah.
FF wouldn't be so bad. DH could help more. When BOi gets teeth i won't get bitten. Expressing is expensive at over 40p per plastic bag - might as well go to ready made formula cartons.
I'd just miss bf. :(
Ah... I'll continue expressing this week and see if I grow a thicker skin. tis already v v thick.

Oi, when I returned to work with dd (albeit later at 10 months), I just cut down to morning and night feeds and nursery gave her formula in the day. On the days I didn't work, Mondays, Thursdays and the weekend, I just breastfed exclusively - not sure if i was lucky with my supply or what, guess I'll find out when ds goes to nursery! Dd breastfed until a week after her 1st birthday then decided she didn't want to anymore.

Whatever you decide, BOi is obviously thriving and will continue to do so if you move onto formula :0D

In other news, I'm raiding my reserve energy supplies today. Please Bob, let Maia sleep tonight because have a feeling Asa will catch the bug and I'll be backwards and forwards all night.

Despite 2 takeaways this weekend, I didn't gain weight this weekend, won't be able to keep that up when I reduce/stop b/feeding! Now trying not to eat ten tonne of chocolate...

Oi it's so sad that you feel this way & seriously out of order that they haven't fitted your blinds yet They're supposed to support bfing mums when they go back to work; it's no wonder that exclusive bfing is in the minority here. If you do decide to ff do it because it's what you want; you should feel absolutely no shame about it either way. At 4 months old only 7% of babies are ebf (partly because lots of people start weaning at this stage but still a very low number :() I've not tried pumping so no idea if this'll work without you attached but could you try turning the pump on & then stepping outside your office to see how noticeable it is...surely it can't be that loud.

Bumped into a guy DP knows while out for brunch at our local garden centre cafe yesterday. He admired DS & asked DP how the nights were. DP said that I was bfing so he just slept through & they were great! The friend tutted at DP & said to me "I bet you didn't need everyone to know that you were bfing!" I smiled sweetly & said "I don't mind at all" but I was shocked. Ok, so we're very comfortable with it...we just don't get why it should be a secret but it's not like we've got a bumper sticker & it's not like DP said "she gives him a shot of brandy before bed so he sleeps really well" Sheesh...not sure what he'd have done if he'd noticed us 5 mins earlier when I was actually bfing DS at the table...shock horror

Breastfeeding in public, blimey! I usually joke about it when people ask about dp helping at night... I say, if he can grow some lactating breasts then he will be roped in! Nobody has been embarrassed yet but there's time ;)

honey, I'd have been tempted to decide that DS needed seconds with a remark like that... BFing really does uncover some antique attitudes!

oi, if you do think you'll continue expressing and run out of bags , these avent Via tubs are fantastic: they look pricey (I got a pack of ten 5 oz and ten 7 oz ones including 20 lids for £14 on Amazon). You can sterilise them and reuse " up to ten times or until the plastic gets tatty": start by using for breastmilk but then they are perfect for weaning foods. They don't leak, freeze and microwave, and my first set lasted 3 years and both DDs!

Lovely weather, though my mojo is on slow burn today. Will sit in conservatory with DS and enjoy the sunshine while it lasts in complete denial of huge mound of household tasks

It is sad, isn't it?
I'm going to chase up the blinds. Goddammit!
I'd happily bf at work, and did, in my office, when I visited a couple of times. But the pump makes it more of a dairy cow operation, and less of a natural/nurturing activity. Hence the discomfort, i guess. It's the milk storage that's the problem and particularly using the communal fridge. May look into those mini fridges...

Thanks for the tub tip aethel, I hadn't seen anything larger than some 50ml tubs.

Those Avent pots are the business, and depending on your pump you can get the attaching lid so you can pump straight into them:o

Been to baby group this afternoon lo wigged out as his little friend gently swiped at his face no more than that but youd have thought he'd full on smacked him the way he reacted. I hope his reaction was because he was tired and not because he's a massive wuss . He's now in his bumbo watching timmy time while I have a hot cup of tea for a change

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Taken air swimming this morning, then preschool and now off out to pick up Hopes christening out fit. Im a bit upset that only my mum and dad r going to hopes christening as my family is pagan and refusing to go. Like where is tjey open mindedness blurrrrr.

Oi Like I previously said I only managed to keep up the expressing for a month before giving formula in the day/weaning for DD1, during which my supply gradually dropped during the day as I wasn't expressing as often as DD would feed, but even with no daytime feeding (which was sad during the weekends) I still managed to evening/night/morning feed her till she was 10 months old when I gave up & moved her to her own room - so not expressing doesn't mean the end of BFing, and like honey points out, as you are already weaning a little the whole 'virgin gut' (which I don't really understand) is not applicable and I'm sure any BM is beneficial for BOi's immune system. On the other hand, I would definitely try to keep expressing until you gets your blinds in to see how you feel about it then/ or demand that you have a separate room with adequate privacy to express in.

I'm looking forward ha to visiting the inlaws (North Africa) in a month and having to be supercovered up in everything I do, and even having to wear a BFing apron in the house (or else be banished to my room to feed). I'd managed to have the confidence to avoid the apron this time but its definitely going to have to come out of retirement...

Rash I'm really enjoying being able to eat lots without the weight gain, I've been awful since lent ended but haven't gained the weight back :)

Probably a troll, air, or possibly a lurking mum who posted on the wrong thread by accident??

Have got over my apathy and made puff rolls with the girls for tea
(easy toddler cooking is lots of fun and when they make it themselves they always seem to eat it better!) recipe: one packet puff pastry, roll out flat, divide into two (half each) paint with tomato soup, sprinkle on grated cheese and ham/salami/chicken/whatever, cut into four or five pieces each, glaze top with milk and bake on greased baking tray for 20 mins or so. I may have to eat the leftovers shortly....

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Despite good sleep last night I'm shattered today so I'm hitting the sack early. Hope everyone gets a good night:)