Dec 08 Mums - Breech babies, bedtimes, boozing and Bikram

[KiwiPanda]

Um sorry about rubbish title

Popping on very briefly as must go to bed, have scary painful PT session in the morning. Anyhoo just wanted to say JJ & Summer I have a friend moving up to Cambridge ish area in a week so I have introduced you two her VIA a message on FB. She is actually DS1's MW but we stayed in touch and became quite good friends. We lived close to each other in London so used to catch up a lot. Her DH got a job up there so they are moving up and she has now got a job up there too. They are moving temporarily to somewhere out of town, I can't remember the name, but she is up for meeting you two and also getting the lowdown on where is good to live etc. I hope that is ok.

Right gotta go, I went to my bookclub tonight and had too much wine & cheese, does not bode well for session tomorrow.

Oh and Beans, the people who live in your area are so lucky to have you close by, and a Ball, how exciting. You must now suss out people in the area who have teenagers who you can use as cheap babysitting.

Morning all! Hope the PT session wasn't too brutal, Vag

So far today i have got very wet on nursery run, been peed on by DD2 and run out of milk but only realised when the tea was made. Clearly it's going to be a minor irritations sort of day ...

Sits alone in thread watching tumbleweed drift past

Ha ha kiwi I'm here!

I reckon Vag has been annihilated by her PT and might never return!

I'm here Kiwi, I popped on briefly after session but no one had posted since me so u didn't post. So much pain.

Aubs I meant to say the other day, it is really important to try to run with your shoulders more relaxed. It will help engage your core strength and stop straining the muscles around your neck. Before you start your run roll your shoulders around or kind of move them up and down. Then get them into a proper relaxed position and get your whole posture into a good alignment. Then go off on your run. As you are running try to be aware of where your shoulders are and how your posture is, try to run with your head up & looking well ahead of you and not at the ground, and even if its cold try not to bring your shoulders up. Something I find that helps is to run with your chest kind of leading the way, almost as if your puffing out your chest, but not really. Most importantly pull your tummy muscles in and keep them strong they literally hold you up, and let your legs work to propel you forward. Oh and good on you, going from 3.5km to 7.5 plus all the walking, is awesome.

Hi DB, he tried very hard to render me useless but I'm still here. Having my coveted after workout coffee was a little tricky as I could barely raise the cup to my lips. But the upside is I purchased a new pair of Adidas tracky dacks and when I first went to try them on I picked up a large, BUT I had to send the sales assistant off to get me a medium as they were too big! I think I could've even gone for small, but hey trackies should be comfy, not causing a camel toe, right.

Completely, shattered on the couch now, should be cooking tea for DH & I but flat out after taking both boys into town on the tram for DS1's violin lesson. It is peeing down so didn't cycle, but DS2 fell asleep on the bike going from DS1's school to tram stop. So had to carry him from where we parked our bikes to tram, then from Tram to lesson place. Bloody hell that child is heavy! Combined with the pain my muscles where in from this morning it felt like we had to walk miles! Ouch. Anyhoo, it'a weigh in and measuring on Friday, I'm hoping for some serious losses.

Glad the Vagmeister is still in one piece. I still chuckle every time I think I have a friend called Vag....

I have just returned from my run. Only a short one for me, but I am gradually getting stronger. My bionic friend suggested we entered an aquathlon which involves 500m swim (outdoor in May) then a 5k run. I suggested I might do a 5k swin and a 500m run instead as more suited to my talents! Happily it is at a weekend when I am conveniently in Scotland. Hurrah!

Have bought a new hoover. After the swift demise of my last miele, I have gone for a Dyson. Hope it's not all hype. Cannot believe that was the high spot of my day. That and a locum vet who was rather attractive as he made small talk about the cat. I wonder if someone should put something in my tea. This is what no wine and clean living do for you.

Right am smelly so into bath. Love to all.

Aubs to Vag's excellent advise I would add that I sometimes shake my arms about a bit mid-run, as I tend to hold my arms quite tensely sometimes. Helps loosen things out and makes you realise if you are holding yourself too tensely IYSWIM. You look like a loon, obviously, but hey, you don't run for vanity reasons... DH was back too late for me to run tonight but I shall go for one tomorrow morning. My training partner / friend who I'm doing the 10k with in May has come down with a virus, and can't run for a week, maybe I'll beat her after all be terribly sympathetic

Sybs Dyson is the way forward for manual type stuff and roomba has also changed my life :) Couldn't survive without them both!
Vag loving the camel toe / tracky dack talk! Makin me homesick!
An on phone and have dodgy signal so no rambling guarantee here. ;)
Beans go to the ball!
Lady hope u had a great time away and fab birthday plus
Meet up x
Spot hope things are good tonight.
Right glass of wine and bed calling as early wake up for moi.

Crikey wrote that ages ago and it didn't send

Sybs! You made me laugh out loud! Brilliant chat about being in Scotland!!

I am running in Thursday, but not telling DH in case it's raining and he makes me go anyway. Ha!

Watching The Undateables. So sweet.

PS I too have a Dyson. Marvellous!

Why is there no haggard, bags-under-eyes emoticon on MN? Such an oversight..

Morning all. If you count 4.55 as Morning rather than night. I am inclined to the latter, but alas DD2 thinks former

Kiwi - very brave to risk tumbleweed again this morning. Heh heh! Our telly keeps breaking at Peppa time, then restarting for Rory, which DD1 hates but DD2 loves. I love it too.

Ha, Beans Peppa pig makes me want to break too...

Oh a question for you ladies. I have yet to express at all for DD2, having never been away from her for more than about an hour...! I need to start as I'm planning a night out in May that involves DH putting her to bed. She doesn't feed to sleep so I think she'll be ok, but obviously need to test that she'll actually take a bottle or sippy cup first. As she's six months, do you reckon I should do bottle, or the cup? If so, any ideas which one might be a good introductory one..?

I really dislike Peppa Pig, she can be really mean to George at times! Rory is much nicer

Kiwi I'd say go straight for the cup, I always used the basis Tommy Tippee ones, and if you do use a bottle I always expressed into the 'Close to Nature' ones (TT again). Both mine got on okay with those. Good grief it seems a lifetime ago they were so small .

After days of DH trying to convince me we need a bigger TV (43" plus), I said this morning leaving for work that he had better find some cash for one then. I didn't mind us getting a bigger one but I really don't buy that the latest Sony is the only TV worth having, I'd have opted for a cheaper brand. So I left with DH thinking how to get hold of the extra cash needed for his beloved Sony and he has just text me to say that he has sold our existing TV to his Dad!

Peppa is a brat.

God I've totally forgotten pretty much everything I have read.

Kiwi I'd def try a cup first. Not that I have ever mastered leaving mine. Dd was left a few times, she didn't really take anything when left for a couple of hours, I left her at 5 months for most of the day and she just took enough to survive. Spiggy who used to post in this group has gone back to work at 6 months with all 3 of hers and just gives a sippy cup, doesn't stress or prepare too much and they are fine.

How do you get a baby to sleep?

ds seemed easy, we started to put him to bed in his cot at 7 quite early but we were in a tiny flat so it didn't feel like we were up and down all the time settling him as it was 2 steps away. Dd screamed to sleep no matter what we did. Ds will feed to sleep but then vomit and wake up then it is fuss fuss fuss. Example, today. woke at 7, fed. Went on school run at 8.30 followed by nursery visit to see new building so he slept in sling until 10, woke all happy and fed. Great. Perfect. 12 I feed again and he dozes off. and wakes. gets jiggled. no go. Now almost 2 and he has dozed off again a couple more times but not remained asleep either in cot, on armchair (often a good snooze spot) or in arms. He has fed again but he is shattered and the more tired he gets the worse he fusses. I've never been a routine person but he sort of seems to be, like his brother was. Might be better tomorrow with dd back at nursery so there will be another school run at 11.30.

He is still so little though, need to remind myself of that! But I do so want an afternoon nap so I can give dd some time, just 20 mins would do for now!

He has just dropped off on me again. Of course now he has left it so late that even if he stays asleep I'll have to wake him to feed before school run then he will shout at me because he will be awake in sling/pushchair. Or I don't wake him, I get him out of the house asleep but he wakes on way home hungry.

Oh ffs he is awake again.

Peppa pig evil! For some reason ds2 likes that show with the ponies, it's in Dutch so I've no idea what is going on but he loves it.

Kiwi, I am also one who could never get mine to take anything but the boob unit they were older, when i did I think I used the TT too and maybe something called Nuby which had a strange soft top. Ds2 pretty much went straight to drinking from a proper cup with much spillage but he insisted on being like his brother.

Indith I think it was Beans who told me, on here, that babies get tired an hour and a half after they wake and to put them down even if they don't show signs of tiredness, apparently signs of tiredness means they are over tired. Anyhoo, I used to put ds2 down in his little bouncer or his cot hammock thing an hour and a half aft he last woke and like magic he would settle to sleep. I didn't know this for ds1 and he was always tricky to get to sleep unless it was feeding or on me.

Bigger my silence is broken boys home with their dad, so soon.

Yes yes what Vag said, Indith. The ONLY book I have ever found actually useful with two girls is the 90 minute sleep programme. Sounds like a routine-heavy thing but it's not at all, it's about the natural sleep cycle and using it to make sleeping easier. Only about a fiver on Amazon. It's very simple but really worth it. Worked a treat with both mine and DD1 in particular was an absolute bugger to get to sleep, so that's saying something.

www.amazon.co.uk/The-90-Minute-Baby-Sleep-Program/dp/0761143114

I know the 90 min thing, used to take ds1 for walks 90 mins after waking until around 5 months when he would happily nod off in cot. At the moment though ds2 won't really nod off in cot (which is fine, he is only tiny and that will come I'm sure) but won't stay asleep on me either, and he still tends to feed every 90 mins so I feed when he wakes then he needs to feed before he goes to sleep but after feeding he vomits and we get the waking up and fussing thing. Plus of course the various school runs don't fit in with the 90 min thing. Urgh, I think I've just hit that wall where you feel like you will never sleep or be able to do anything without holding a baby ever again! Things will change so much in the next few weeks.

I am furious with myself. I keep making stupid mistakes with my work and my poor boss is so busy, the last thing she needs is me fecking up on a regular basis. I am mortified and furious. I am just not concentrating properly. I need to knuckle down. Grrr

Vag, you're right! It was me who said that! Courtesy of our lovely maternity nurse with DD!!

Indith - the mantra - "Everything is a Phase!!" not helpful now, but it will get better. Poor you xxx

Tomorrow is another day.

I am going to have a lot of wine tonight. DH out, Apprentice on, chicken for supper. Yum.

Hello everyone! I am back and had a lovely birthday, thanks. Also I have a smooth face, smooth thighs and a relaxed back, ha.

Had lovely drinks with PD yesterday (you looked very chic in your work gear, PD). Thanks again for coming.

Haven't read anything but will be back later or tomorrow...