Dec 08 Mums - Breech babies, bedtimes, boozing and Bikram

[KiwiPanda]

Um sorry about rubbish title

Hi Ladies,

Vegerola - that fake attack story is terrifying. I am so glad that you and your friends are safe but appalled that the police aren't doing more. I like to think, but maybe I am wring, that if you reported that in the UK and there was a rape a month then there would be a big investigation and public warning and you would be asked for descriptions etc.

Kayz - I am so happy that your DH will meet his DD today. Are you taking her to the airport? Tell us every detail of their first sight of each other.

Deids - you do look great on FB. I lost more weight this week too despite pigging out that included 2 slices of pavlova! With me it's all about skipping dinner or just having salad or am egg for dinner. If I do that I lose weight pretty much regardless of what I've eaten earlier in the day. I am 10 stone exactly now which A's I am 5'10and a half means I am vang on 20 BMI. I was going to stop here but am tempted to go for a last 4 lbs loss as I still have some extra flesh on my tummy. How much more do you want to lose?

Today is the first day of my period. Thus is scary as that means I will ovulate 21 days from now (I have long cycles) while in California, and the plan is to TTC. We were going to put it off due to the new position I was offered and the fact DH has a new job from the autumn, but then we thought there will always be excuses and we need to go for it. Now it is imminent I feel ambivalent. On the one hand I am excited to have a little newborn in our future BUT on the other I already feel guilty about ending DD2's role as baby (a role she embraces with some dramatic ability) plus the prospect of pregnancy symptoms looms threateningly AND I just lost all that weight... All excuses that mask my real fear that I will rock our happy little boat of 4 passengers and will regret it. 21 days until I can't turn back girls. 21 days. Eeeeeek.

Hi Ladies,

Vegerola - that fake attack story is terrifying. I am so glad that you and your friends are safe but appalled that the police aren't doing more. I like to think, but maybe I am wring, that if you reported that in the UK and there was a rape a month then there would be a big investigation and public warning and you would be asked for descriptions etc.

Kayz - I am so happy that your DH will meet his DD today. Are you taking her to the airport? Tell us every detail of their first sight of each other.

Deids - you do look great on FB. I lost more weight this week too despite pigging out that included 2 slices of pavlova! With me it's all about skipping dinner or just having salad or am egg for dinner. If I do that I lose weight pretty much regardless of what I've eaten earlier in the day. I am 10 stone exactly now which A's I am 5'10and a half means I am vang on 20 BMI. I was going to stop here but am tempted to go for a last 4 lbs loss as I still have some extra flesh on my tummy. How much more do you want to lose?

Today is the first day of my period. Thus is scary as that means I will ovulate 21 days from now (I have long cycles) while in California, and the plan is to TTC. We were going to put it off due to the new position I was offered and the fact DH has a new job from the autumn, but then we thought there will always be excuses and we need to go for it. Now it is imminent I feel ambivalent. On the one hand I am excited to have a little newborn in our future BUT on the other I already feel guilty about ending DD2's role as baby (a role she embraces with some dramatic ability) plus the prospect of pregnancy symptoms looms threateningly AND I just lost all that weight... All excuses that mask my real fear that I will rock our happy little boat of 4 passengers and will regret it. 21 days until I can't turn back girls. 21 days. Eeeeeek.

Am back from hols will do a read back later.

But saw Kayz news, how exctiting!

Also saw vags thing on FB about attacker, bloody scary.

Can I go back to bed please and start again?

DS1 was being an idiot this morning in the playground and accidentally hit ones of his friends with a space hopper. I told him to say sorry and to come and sit down. So he decided to hit and kick me so of course I told him off which made him worse.

So I told his teacher and then he went of and cried and cried. I felt terrible and then I cried too

I feel like a terrible Mum Hopefully seeing DH will cheer him up later.

KAyz, you must be doing a countdown now! How very exciting.

Obes, please don't worry about the 3 thing. I spend a lot of my pg with matthew worrying about upsetting my glorious little unit which worked so well, and it really hasn't. It has simply made us tighter and closer as a family. My DDs love him and he adores them. He slotted into our lives from day1 and is the least demanding, most easy going fellow you could hope to meet. I didn't really want a boy, but he is fantastic and I realise now that I was a fool and I am blessed to have some of each.

I DID of course put on a horrendous amount of weight when pg but that is because I am a greedy pig. It aint compulsory. Apart from being slightly poorer, there isn't a downside. Honestly. So shag away with impunity, knowing that once you are updiffed your life will change, but completely for the better. Lots of love to you.

Deids, you are one hot mama on your FB page. I am struggling to lost weight but am low carbing and have lost 10.5lbs aready with only another stone to go. Yippee. Am not running but swimming whenever I can.

Must dash and say hello to cleaner. She is 7 months pregnant and looks as though she's just had a large lunch. It can be done!!

Bloody hell vag That is very scary. I can't believe how laid back the authorities seem. Please be very careful if you go out on your own.

Obes I would like to lose about another stone, ideally...although the last bit seems the hardest to shift! Exciting news about TTC #3 too!

Kayz Is DH home yet? So excited for you all!

Poor DS is sick today. He woke saying his head and tummy hurt. He had a little juice and toast so we thought we'd go and get some fresh air...BIG mistake. Projectile vomiting all over the back of the car, can't believe how much! He's currently fast asleep on the sofa but looks as white as a sheet poor bear. Seriously hope I don't catch it, I was covered in it as I had to get him out of the car to strip him down and since then he has been on my knee 'breathing' germs on me.

He is not quite home!!

I went with Mum to pick DH up from the train station. Its 8 miles from here but they are resurfacing the roads. So it has taken 2 hours to do there and back. So We had to ring my Step Dad to pick DS2 up from play school and then dropped DH off outside DS1's school so he could at least surprise one of the boys. Mum brought me, DD and DH's luggage home and DH has gone to get DS2 from my Mums.

So I am sat at home waiting for them to get back. But from DH's texts I think that DS1 was very happy when he came out off school.

Kayz that is unbelievable, that hold up!!! But how wonderful for you all to be together. I assume you are by now. How was he when he first laid eyes on his beautiful daughter. Oh I'm a little teary thinking about it. I am such a sap.

Rubes all this uncertainty is hard on you, though, I'm sure Cat will be happy! How will it work, will you all relocate for the 6 months of each? A friends DH was a peads orthopod at Bristol, they really liked it there, but at Evelina now, so settled in London.

Obes, how bloody exciting, a mini Avocado!!! Also by my reckoning you must be stick thin. Isn't 20 underweigh? I'm not very good with BMI, I know I'm 25.5 which is officially overweight, but for my age it is apparently within the norm.

Thanks all for your concern. We tried out a more city location for training this morning and it was quite nice, also it's the same distance from home so I can still run there to meet the girls. Have worked out a run that takes in some of the cities sites and lovely architecture too.

Well the blummin' Saudi work might not be happening now as the Saudi's haven't gotten themselves organised in time for DH & his partner to get visas. I'm trying not to get too excited but we may well get to see Mr Wiggin's on the podium yet.

Also the other big contact that DH got are being really naughty. They told DH they would get back to him with an offer once they had sorted out his day rate (he's a little more expensive than they can afford but he is willing to negotiate as it is good experience). Anyway, DH has more adhoc work lined up for August if he wants it, and has an interview with another company for a 3 month contract. He has tried contacting the original company but they don't return his emails or calls? How unprofessional is that? If they have decided they can't get the pay rate approved and therefore don't want to employ him anymore shouldnt they just tell him? It's quite annoying. He wants the job but they are making it very difficult for him to plan his work for August and he doesn't want to accept this new job if he already has a job. They are being really crap.

Right I need to move, its bathtime and I'm going out to a farewrll drinks tonight. Hey Kiwi how are you?

Kayz I have a tear in my eye too. Am imagining the reunion in slo mo complete with sappy music . He must have been so overwhelmed to meet little R! Tell us all!!

Vag wasn't Wiggins great? And Froome! Fabulous stuff. Am feeling much better today thank you. DD2 has been an absolute angel today so I think she wants me to take it easy, bless her.

BTW I think 18.5-25 is "normal" BMI. Thanks to bout of gastroentiritis I am now officially underweight so I don't think it's really a very accurate guide anyway. I think I remember reading that a serious athlete like eg Chris Hoy would be officially overweight because he weighs so much cos of muscle.. so clearly not the definitive measurement. I think body fat analysis is supposed to be much more accurate measure of overall health.
That company sounds crap though. I'm sure your DH wants the work but if they are that crap about contacting him maybe not the most reliable in other areas too..?

When I picked up DD1 from nursery today her teacher told me she counted all the way to 40 in class. (proud face) Bless her, she's clearly got her father's maths abilities. I think I learned to count to 40 when I was about 25*

*May be slight exaggeration. But only slight.

Oh my favourite moment of today: DD2 picks up my keys, crawls to front door and sits there looking at me expectantly. I swear there was a mix up between the hospital and the local vet and I bought back a puppy by mistake

She was fast asleep when he got in the car. They've had a cuddle now. She burped at him and then fell asleep on him. I think he's a little worried about holding her in case she breaks. But he's been brilliant so far.

Yay Kayz thats brilliant, he's home!
DS still voming everywhere...can't even keep water down. He's just laid diwn, won't even talk. How long before I should be worried about his lack if fluid? I think he's wee'd once today?

Oh Deids the poor thing. Am no expert
at all but do know that even small sips of water are good, even if he doesn't appear to keep any down some might stay. I think when my nephew had really bad D&V the docs recommended that rehydration stuff you can get from Boots too (tho presumably only once he can keep a bit down). Poor little thing, having spent weekend doing similar I really feel for him

Thanks kiwi, he's had 3 sips about an hour ago and kept it down. Just put him to bed. Man its hard seeing them all floppy & helpless!

Just nipping on (more later) to say a big wooooooooooo to Kayz and to DB:

Dioralyte (or similar) is what the hospital recommended for DD2 when she had bad vom virus - and it worked well for DD1 the other week too. But not all 200 ml at once, you have to do 15-20 ml, get them to sip it, wait 5 mins, another tiny amount, and so on and so on until it's all gone. If he can't tolerate even that, reduce the amount of fluid to 10 and make the gaps longer.

Thanks Ladyt, he's just vommed up the water from earlier. Will get some dioralyte tomorrow if he's still the same. Poor bear.

Deids how is he this morning? Fingers crossed he's feeling better.

Oh Deids your poor little sweet man, how is he this morning? What Lady said is perfect, if he it too tired to drink it or can't lift his lovely little head see if you can syringe it into his mouth, just use the neurofen synringe if you have one, it's only 5ml but that's perfect for getting it in slowly. With the dioralyte make sure you make it up exactly as the packet says.

Had lovely drinks with a fabulous lady who is leaving this week, a bit sad as she was a fun friend. Had delish white wine too.

So second day of summer holidays and we are already camped out in front of cbeebies. Oops. Hopefully the weather is OK today and we can get out to the beach.

Can DH go back now? I had forgotten how annoying his snoring is.

Last vommed 2.30am, DH just called to say so far toast has stayed down. Although he's sad Mummys at work! But hopefully its passed through. Hooray.

Deids I hope DS is feeling better this afternoon.

Can I have a little moan and maybe some help and advice?

I'm having a few second thoughts on BF. it's going great but I'm not enjoying it that much. We have no latch problems now and nipples don't hurt at all after the first 10ish seconds. But I have really painful let down and I leak loads, especially on the right hand side. I still get very engorged too. Plus DD does an explosive poo after every feed. It's coming out the nappy and through her clothes and occasionally onto the clothes of the person holding her. I've read that's normal though, so just have to get used to it.

I'm in 2 minds about giving up. I don't want to have to faff about washing and sterlising bottles and getting up in the middle of the night to make bottles. But I don't want to be in agony every time she cries or goes a bit longer between feeds.

It's too confusing as I really wanted to BF but there seems to be no mention of let down feeling like you have thousands of electrified pins being stuck into your boobs over and over again. It's all about it being this wonderful feeling where your baby lovingly gazes into your eyes while feeding.

Oh bless you Kayz, she is still so tiny :) Your supply will settle in a few weeks and you will be less engorged, painful letdown will most likely ease too. I too tend to have very painful letdown but it has eased a lot now, I can feel it but it doesn't hurt so much. Make sure you are using good breastpads at night (lansinoh ones are about all that contain my milk, order off Amazon and they work out pretty cheap) and maybe pop a bedwetter mat under yourself. Nappies might not be any better with ff, have a play with brands of nappy as they all fit slightly differently or get a couple of cloth nappy covers to put over the top as a second barrier before the clothes.

Of course at the end of the day it is up to you, it is just that you wanted it so much I would be sorry to see you in a few weeks regretting giving up. Remembeer when you stopped feeding ds2 then a few weeks later you were looking up relactation? You've done the hard stuff this time, you just need to wait for things to settle.

Thanks Indith. I have tommee tippee breastpads which are pretty good. I know I would really regret giving up feeding her which I do have to remember when letdown happens.

I think it just helps getting it off my chest.

Katz don't give up. I too for the first few wks had dreadful letdown pain and got engorged. Listen to indith it does settle down. And remember breast feeding is the ultimate easiness for laziness once you get into the swing of things. No getting up in the middle of the night to boil water then have to wait for it to cool down etc. Just whop a boob out and let her latch on at 3am and bob back off to sleep. oh and the poo thing will settle too. DS1 famously mustard seeded me all over London when teeny. I used to feed him with a folded muslin between his bod and me to catch the inevitable poop. Keep going you are doing brill!