Dec 08 Mums - Breech babies, bedtimes, boozing and Bikram

[KiwiPanda]

Um sorry about rubbish title

Katz!! FFS iPhone Kayz!

Lansinoh are better

DB glad the vomit seems to have passed, hope he feels better soon.

LadyT have you written your stroppy letter? FGS it is a gallery, they should encourage children!

Obs exciting TTC! Sure you will be fine, you'v worked hard to lost weight, it doesn't mean you'll put it all back on. Stay active in pregnancy and you'll be fine :)

Kiwi that sounds like an extreme weight loss solution!

Vag how scary!

Ds2 snotty screamy again Feels like it will never end. I want some sleep!

Builders have split our loft. Need plasterer to come out now. Then electrician to update our frankly dangerous system and give us extra plug sockets and other stuff. Then a trip to Ikea and we can move dd up there! All loft contents currently piled around the house and I swear nothing is going back up unless strictly necessary. There will be one bookshelf with paperwork, photos and sentimental stuff (uni posters, special tickets), camping stuff and ds1's clothes for ds2 tp grow into. Everything else is going because I am sick of the mess!

Oh Kayz you poor thing. Sometimes it just helps to have a good whinge about it. I had a friend who was finding the over night feeds quite exhausting (as we all do) she just wanted to express to people that it was hard and have people say "yes it is you poor thing" but everytime she said anything she either got told to try water bottles, or formula for a last feed, or she was accused of spoiling her baby and making a rod for her own back because she was still feeding overnight at 5 months! Hang in there you are doing amazingly well. With the newborn nappies, I found they are all a bit crap, I used them until the boys grew into their non disposables and they weren't good at containing at all. I think Lady had a similar problem and found that pampers where better at doing the job but as Indith says try a few different brands and maybe have a towel at hand.

With the BF six weeks is the magic number when your body seems to come into line with DD's needs, you get in sinc with each other by then and your boobs respond to her feeding need changes quicker. You will increase supply faster as she needs it and your supply will decrease quicker when her needs change. As always watch out for any other pains and any temperature or flue like symptoms.

Thanks. I do think half of it is having a good old moan and finding out that it's normal.

Hi all

Katz - I agree with all re sticking with it. If you're really keen to bf, stick at it. You're doing so well! Lovely DH is back for you all. Bet it's amazing to have him, despite the snoring!

Kiwi, my DD1 can't even count to 20, let alone 40.

We've got her sports day tomorrow. She is not very co-ordinated. I suspect I could be hiding my giggles! She doesn't even have a pair of trainers! Bless her.

Am so loving our move to the country. Seem to be making a really nice group of mates and am happy. Did my weekly 7k run this morning. Am upping it to twice a week next week. Yay!

We're off to Cumbria on Thursday night for a long weekend. Lovely. Weather forecast horrific though.

Lady, thank you for being so open about your feelings about your Dad. I often think of you. And all of you who have lost parents. Dad is still doing ok with no re-occurrence of the tumours on his lungs. But there does seem to be another one growing in his leg. They're hopeful of being able to do radiotherapy or surgery, which is great. But there does seem to be more of an air of inevitability about his demise. I know it's always been a question of time, but Dad does seem more resigned to it. Albeit in a strangely positive way. He is feeling well and so is making the most of his time he has left. Which is good. He said he considers every day a blessing and is going to treat it as such. But wants to milk another couple of years if he possibly can! We're heading off to see him tomorrow after sports day. Can't wait. And Mum, of course!!!

Sorry, blathering on xx

Beans am so glad you are happy out in the sticks though obviously south London is PINING for you

Kayz As others have said, I also found letdown very painful at first, both girls, and it just gradually got less so over time. I can still feel it now but not as a pain at all, just as a sensation IYSWIM. Do stick with it for a while, you've done the really bloody hard bit and the rest gets so much easier. I've just been to my art class (mums and babies one I do once a week, it's ace) and several fo the babies had epic meltdowns because the cafe kitchen was crazily busy so they couldn't get hot water or whatever they needed, whereas I was able to just whip up me top so it really is easier sometimes! PLus they get SO much more efficient at it as they go on, so it's a 5 minute job before too long. The engorgement will sort itself out over the next few weeks, and so will the leakiness. As you say though sometimes it's good to have a good moan, what else is MN for eh?

Deids is your lovely little boy totally better now? Hope so.

DD2 is a bit poorly. She's not herself at all and she did a massive vomit last night though seems to have been a one off so am keeping fingers crossed that it was a too much milk one rather than a tummy bug one.

Today we have one of DD1's best friends and family coming for tea. She's a nursery friend and they are all moving oop North at the end of this week. I'll really miss them. But more to the point so will DD1. Poor thing, her two best friends from nursery are both leaving - one at least is just going to a different cheaper nursery as her mum has stopped working for now, so we will still see her, but I'm a bit worried about DD1 making a new "best friend" as she and little N (the local one) have been inseperable since they were 18 months. They are so cute together, always hugging and holding hands. I hope she won't be too sad without her.

I expect you are worrying more than she is kiwi, friendships are very fluid at this age and they still play alongside more than together.

Or maybe I'm trying to convince myself of that because dd's best friends are off to school and she has another year of nursery.

Indith I expect you are right, she doesn't so far seem too bothered though she knows it's going to happen. The sweet thing with them is that they really do play together properly, making up word games and fantasy stuff properly together. But as she's already gone down to only 2 days a week at nursery I guess it won't be such a huge change... specially if we make sure we have lots of playdates. I get on really well with the other mum so that's easy enough to do and we've taked about making it a regular thing.

ps I just started randomly reading this thread on starting school. I nearly started crying. I don't want DD1 to start school even if it is a year and a bit away!! It's so scary and big and they don't get lovely cuddles from nursery staff and it makes me sad and yes I am a big sap

Kiwi, they DO get lovely cuddles, promise! Reception is all about learning through play and they love it once they get over the initial newness of it all. As you girls have done nursery, they will be fine, promise.

Lovely Kayz, you are entitled to whinge and whine all you like. You have done so many amazing things in the last few months - looked after your boys on your own, grown a baby, had a HB, looked after all 3, tackled and conquered BF and waited for your new husband to come back and meet his daughter. HUGE shakes. Be kind to yourself. Your lovely R is not yet a month old and so you are still working out between you how to do this feeding lark. Once you get to a bout 6 weeks it becomes so much easier. Quicker feeds, longer gaps between feeds and more glorious moments than in the early weeks when it can be painful and a bit of an arse. Now that DH is home to support you, hope you can put your feet up a bit and just enjoy your new baby. I have nothing against bottles but I expect you just need a few more weeks to see how easy BF is. Plus it helps you get your bod back in shape (though is not a reliable contraceptive so don't get caught out there!!)

I've gone on enough, but I just wanted to say you are BRILLIANT and a lovely mum, and are doing fantastically. Huge hugs to you XXXXX

By the way, am having a sort out and have 2 pairs of winter boots which my girls wore - great nick, leather, with fur round the top. Size 7.5 and 9.5. If you woudl like either / both pairs, PM me your address and I'll pop in post.

XXXXX

Aw Kiwi you softie I'd send dd quite happily in September if they'd have her! It was a bit tough when ds1 went though, there were a few occasions when I had a bit of dust in my eye . I think it is odd because at nursery you get to know everything they have done (well you should, you don't at our preschool but I hate hate hate it and it is shit) and at school they suddenly spend all day doing their own things and growing up and learning stuff. They get plety of cuddles though. Ds1's reception teacher is very cuddly with them all.

Year 1 on the other hand. Year 1 is proper school. I can't believe my boy is going to be in year 1 soon! (year 1 is lovely too and the teachers are great but it just seems so grown up and I'm a hormonal thing and I am going to cry)

kayz Moan away about the BF! I remember being much the same when I had DD, till my friend came to visit and told me it can hurt like hell, and takes a good few weeks to settle. Vag is right 6 -8 weeks is a turning point. I had to keep telling myself to push on to that point when I had DS. But it is so worth it, and best of all its FREE

Kiwi I do worry about DS having to make new friends when he returns to pre school in September as most of his class will have started Reception. Oh and DS came running out of pre school today (he's much better now) to declare "Mummy I not hurt today". Which made me that he has to explain himself all the time, I do worry that his whole 'aggression problem' has been blown up and that is all I talk about with him. I just said okay, and quickly asked what games he had been playing today...I want him to think I care about more than just who he may/may not have pushed or whatever. Can't wait to get to the Summer break and start afresh in September!

Sybs You are lovely!!! Thank you for that very lovely post. I'm not sure how I'd cope with out you lot!!

I think I just need to get used to being the only person that can feed her. She always needs feeding when I start eating so I have gotten used to either cold food, eating one handed while trying not to drop it on her head or leaving her for a few minutes to cry.

Indith DS1 starts year 1 in Sept too. I can't believe how big he is getting. He has his first wobbly tooth!! I am fully expecting to cry on his last day.

DS2 starts the nursery at the school as well. Which means he will be leaving playschool. His key worker absolutely loves him and he does her. I know that both his key worker and myself will be in floods of tears.

Kiwi DS1 still gets cuddles from the nursery staff now when he sees them.

Oh and we have 9 posts until we need a new thread. Names anyone?

Kayz, having food dropped on your head is one of the perils of being BF! Either leave her to cry while you chop your food into bite size pieces or get DH to cut it up for you.

I made the mistake of making a chilli the other day. Poor little thing got rice all over her head!

It's when you have them in a sling and drop chocolate crumbs then take them out half an hour later to find it has melted all over them .

DD2 used to quite regularly have jam on her head. Luck she didn't (still doesn't) have much hair so it was easy to get off, eh?

I've got the HV coming for the first time tomorrow. I'm hoping DD is putting weight on nicely. I really don't like her and I'm not looking forward to it at all.

Hello lovely ladies

On for a proper catch up tomorrow morn, but glad you are feeling better about it, Kayz. Yup, Pampers are deffo the best disposables! Feeding - well, you know from the boys that ff doesn't make kids grow two heads, but if you will really regret giving up bf, it sounds like it's worth persevering - especially if it usually improves over time! Lots of support and expertise on here. And sympathy from those with no expertise (like me!)

Buckets more to say to all of you...Back soon. xxxxx

Hey all. Am off to bed now. Ominous results for Dad tomorrow. Fingers crossed all ok. Night x

Beans - particularly wanted to reply to you but simply haven't had the proper time - wanted to send you and your Dad much love and luck for tomorrow xxxxx

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