December 2011 - crying and grizzling (and that's just the mums!)

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

P.s.you're definitely not being a bad mum, you're being an amazing mum because you're looking for a solution to this rather than just getting cross with her!

Re tummy time, I try it every few days. She can raise her neck fine usually but when I put her on the playmat on her tummy she just stretches her legs out but doesn't bother raising hr head, just snuffles about with hr face in the mat! She's not bothered with the play mat at all or with anything really except the music mobile with little grey and White animals which fascinates her. Otherwise she likes sitting in the bouncy chair watching me doing washing up/laundry/cooking and babbles and squeaks as I talk to her. That's just ad good stimulation as any educational toy or actually better I reckon. She's still too small to need more. Just looking around is stimulation enough. When you think about it, everything us new to them so the world is a pretty exciting place. And I'm sure she likes the sound of my voice so I just narrate what I'm doing. I sound like a crazy person! 'now I'm washing the bottles', 'now I'm chopping the carrots' etc. !!

Fucking fab Aaron now has chicken poxs gerr can't copr or breath

Air really sorry to hear that. It sounds overwhelming for you at the moment - is there anyone else who could come round for an hour or two just to give you a break?

LMF hope the head cold isn't progressing it's hard work looking after los when you're not feeling up to much.

Hawthers - hate sore throats - drink plenty of soothing drinks!

Darcies - you sound like you are having it really, really tough right now. I don't know what to say except you're clearly a great mum. Come on here to vent any time. Sending hugs.

Easilybored I'll pm you about fb group as well!

So poor Luke was really irritable all day yesterday. He decided he would no longer sit in his Babybjorn babysitter chair which he previously loved. He cries after being in a sling for 5 mins as well so spent the day with him alternating between crying and chewing my shoulder off/his bib and anything else he could get hold of. Thought we were going to be in for terrible night but he slept from 7.30 to 6.40 this morning! Of course from around 3.30 this morning I couldn't sleep as was convinced something was up with him being in such bad form yesterday but he was fine - he doesn't have a temp, just chewing everything in sight. I'm still in shock he slept so long but imagine it will not repeat itself tonight!

darcies and air I really feel for you both - dealing with more than 1 child when one or more is ill or misbehaving is so hard. my ds is lovely with freya but I still think he finds it hard sharing me at times. Another thing we have an issue with is glue ear, which can cause aggressive, frustrated type behaviour I believe - has darcie had any ear problems?

Had a real wobble this morning about life in general and nearly cried a few times. went for a walk with f along the seafront and feel much better now but really shouted at ds this morning when he was faffing getting dressed when really it was dh I should have been taking my anger out on, not ds, left me feeling like a crap mum.

dh is basically mega stressed about a work issue and has been since the new year. every time we talk about it and I give my thoughts by the next day he has changed his mind again - it is infuriating and his mood brings mine down. It also means he cannot focus on anything else and so I have to do everything else - housewise and with the dcs. He hasnt cooked dinner for weeks, has given up giving freya her bottle in the evening as "she wont settle for him" , so I can't go to bed early. the final straw last night was when he was holding freya ( I had to ask him to do this so I could eat my dinner), she filled her nappy. I asked him to change it - "do you think it needs it?" was his response - eh yes - so now changing the odd nappy appears too tricky too. He cannot complain about lack of sleep - he sleeps in another room and doesnt get up for work till 8am. ahhhhhh - sorry rant over. I do wonder if we would still be together if it werent for the dcs.

Thanks Ladies. Hoping things will get better.

We've asked Darcie if she is slightly jealous of the time I have to give to Sky more because she is only a baby and she says no and we have told her its okay to tell us if that is the problem. We won't be cross and will try and do more, but she def says that's not it.

Darcie does have Glue ear - has suffered with it on & off throughout her little life but never been this badly behaved when had it before.

Sorry for the ranting memememe posts, I will be a better poster when I'm in the right frame of mind iykwim.

Rant away Darcies, that's what this thread is for, and if it helps you in any way to do so, then that's a good thing! Has D had grommets for her glue ear?

Darcie - could she be being bullied at school? And diverting the aggretion at home where it is safe to do so?

sorry 4 spelling i'm stressed.

I think we need some mutual pompommery ladies.

We're all fabulous. Just remember that:)

Imade the fb group secret/hidden, so your other friends can't even see it exists. Super top secret!

Air Spoken to school and they said she is a very popular member of the class & yr group. They are also helping us with praise at school if she is good at home.

No grommits as of yet.

ps what FB group?

easily i usually go every week to baby cinema :)

Well i think mr wrigglebum is going to be a late developer! He doesn't reach for things yet and shows no interest when you talk to him, just stares at something more interesting in the distance! I had to turn the tv off today as he was just staring at it! Although i think he may be trying to roll over... although the change mat may just have been an uneven surface haha

Hurahhh i finally made and froze the lasagne i have been planning for weeks!

He slept from 7.30pm- 5 for a quick moan, then 7am!! Amazing what you can do on a good nights sleep :)

Off to do some tummy time hehe

Hugs to you darcies, jiggle, air and cool and anyone else having a tough time. Thanks for the communal pompoms lmf.
plu i didn't think you were being paranoid. I just wanted to see if one of us was Beyonce.
we've been for a swimming lesson today, all good fun. Then I went back to mum and dad's to visit them now they are back from holiday. And then the landlord's maintenance man called (we'd had a leak) and has told me he'll be back tomorrow, but not to flush the toilet until then... He insists we can still go, just not flush. !!???? The next 18 hours will be interesting!

darcies that all sounds so tough, I hope you get your CAHMS referral quickly and that they are helpful.

figgy hugs, hope things get better soon.

air oh no! Have you got lots of immune people to support/visit?

It has been such a beautiful day here! We did our usual Thursday library story time and swings thing this morning, but stayed in the park for ages. Then I have been gardening this afternoon well, garden tidying and deciding where my new herb planters are going to go (planters are scavenged tyres that I will be painting soon!). If the weather stays good I'll dig the hole for my fire pit on Sunday!

DH is home and has been off sick since tuesday, he is not immune to CP as he had it twice. I have been ill in bed with Hope just feeding and sleeping and DH has been ill and looking after Air. This morning Air had a high temp and went back to bed and refused to eat. We give him calpol but after 30 mins his temp was 40 so i give him ibprofen as well and it came down to 38.8. He had a fit due to temp spiking when he was 16 months old so its always something i need to watch for.

If it goes that high again i'm going to call the OHH dr. No sign of spots yet so it could be a cheast infection or CP or both Also that temp was when he only had his pants on

I hate it when the kids are ill.

Hi again to everyone! Avid reader of thread but just struggle to keep up and post regular - but darcies I just wanted to send you a hug. I have DD lexie who is 4 (so a little younger than darcie) but your story really struck a cord with me. My dd also can display 'challenging' behaviour - another one who does not like to be told no. If I say black she says white and vice versa. She can tantrum like you wouldn't believe - screams herself hoarse sometimes. She also does lots of activities like private swimming lessons, and we always go out somewhere every day. It feels like a kick in the teeth if she 'starts'. It is very stressful and very hard not to loose my own temper when it has been like that all day from waking up. I am with you at felling like a crap parent sometimes. However, I believe we are not ctap parents because we care. Crap parents wouldn't care.
Again, her behaviour is the main cause of strain on my relationship with dp, and I totally emphasise there. It is very hard work.
Just wanted you to know someone understands :)
That said - lexie is a lovely little girl, popular at nursery, chatty sociable and well mannered and great fun to be around and I love her all the world, but she does have her off days. I'm hoping its her age And she will grow out of it.
I hope your cahms referal helps and things calm down. :)

hugs to air also and oh easily can i pm you re Facebook group id love to join! What do i send? My full name and area? [embarrassed] to be asking silly questions!

darcies i just read youre post.

wow firstly massive hugs!
You are being a fab mum!! Like youre gp said, youre amazing! You are not ranting at all, It must be so upsetting especially with your OH acting like that :(

keep posting we are all here for you!

Oooh, jigglebum, that's very difficult. It sounds a bit like what my Dh was like when he was off work after redundancy, when DS was small. He was also armed with the "stressed about work" excuse (convenient), and openly said to people (in front of me!) that he was looking forward to going back to work to have a rest (! - when he was trying to slope off "to prepare for interviews" instead of taking half days). Perhaps it might help if you point out that he is giving you "mega stress at work", too?

DarcieandSkysmum (so, where's your new name?!), thinking about it this afternoon, I wondered whether she was trying to exercise power over you? Her response - "she def says that's not it" - also sounds a bit like that. I'm not very experienced with her age, but if my 3yo is able to be manipulative, a girl her age (is she about 6, or am I misremembering?) certainly can, and can do it better! Sorry if you have tried this (although you may not have done, since you sound very laden with guilt), but have you tried taking privileges away? If you did it correctly, that might give her a push in the right direction?

kri5ty, that could just be wise and mysterious! (although itf you're worried you can check his hearing and sight?). I had a friend whose DD didn't speak for ages, but she turned out perfectly articulate; I always thought she was just inhibited about making mistakes, and was simply listening and learning.

AirofHope, the weather down our way (you're SE London, aren't you?) was very springlike, so try to get out with A&H (does he still have a buggy) so you all get some air and he and Hope can sleep, while you get a change of scenery. I'm sure such mild weather can't make your illness worse, unless it's an achy/tired sort of being ill?

P.S. Oi, I'm not Beyonce, all right? I'm Adele. (well, she's everywhere else at the moment: why not on our thread?!)

EasilyBored, in that case, may I join in the FB group, and I'll prove that I am Adele.

Group hug!! Sorry that everyone is having a rough time of it atm. :(

Plu, weather confused the hell out of me today, had no idea how to dress DS!

Typical, just sat down to post & DS wakes up, will be back later to continue my post....

Haven't thought of a new name yet. Would like to join the FB group so let me know how I do it

Darcie can be very manipulative unfortunately and it's like she wants to be ruler of the house. I'm shattered battling with her tbh. When we tell her off, she gets frustrated because we don't shout at get we are calm and that annoys her - cue throwing and aggression

Nice to know someone else knows how I feel.

Air hopefully you all feel better soon x

datcies I'm so sorry you are having a rough time. you are doing a great job and it sounds like darcy is testing the boundaries and hopefully with consistent responses she will respond by improving her behaviour. But pah listen to me - I should take my own advice. Ds1 had the mother of tantrums in Tuesday which pushed me to my limit and past it. It is so hard when you are sleep deprived and also need to keep the peace with Dh too. Have just the same problems with having 'discussions' with Dh re ds1's behaviour. I'm thinking that everything is a phase and everything will get better in time. I need to work on keeping my cool, I got so wound up this week and it def didn't help the situation.

Heavens Darcies, you poor thing. I think all of you ladies with more than one do an amazing job juggling all their needs. It must be awful though, feeling like you're being rejected and/or you're not doing enough... and you KNOW you're a good mother, so try not to doubt it.
We're all here to listen- you will get through this, even if it doesn't feel like it at the moment, and you will get through it as a family. I hope the CAHMS team round your way are effective.

That's really bad luck air, no wonder you're stressed. Hope neither you nor DS suffer too much.

Trying to remind other halves that there is life outside of their own heads and own worries can be trying jiggle to say the least. Glad you went for that walk, that's the best thing you could have done.

One word Oi- UUUURRRRGH!

Back to work for a rest eh Adele Plu? That's so cheeky it's almost impressive...!

Am knackered after today's exertions; did four hours back in the office, but with LO as I have no-one who could look after him! All the walking and hefting up and down stairs in crappy train stations was physically draining, but actually enjoyed the work bit. LO to his credit was great- just fed, or slept, or wiggled on the floor, and smiled at people , and it's nothing to do with the fact it's sub tropical temps in the office at all, oh nooooo...

Darcies, til you think of something better try DeterminedAndSpecialMum : as everyone will recognise it's you. (((hug)))

Had a good day today: met up with tyel and an enoooormous Latte, had a v relaxing natter, then ran the swimming gauntlet. Unfortunately DS was extremely grumpy over dinner: he's now conked out on me and I don't want to move in case he wakes up and feels grotty again. I hate evening grumps :(

Urghhhh indeed. It ain't happening. I gave DH permission to pee in the shower when he got home from work. He laughed, had a shower, and then Doh! He forgot to go whilst he was in there. I'm planning a late night trip to tesco.
I had the idea to go out to dinner with LO in tow, and utilise their facilities to the max. But DH was set on watching the footie.
I haven't needed the loo yet, tis a shame LO isn't potty training yet...
WHen we buy a house, I will make sure it's one with many toilets!