December 2011 - crying and grizzling (and that's just the mums!)

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

LO is refusing to be tired tonight. Grizzles one moment, smiles the next. We've had some great chuckles tonight, but now I want some snores! He's wide awake. and he's been awake all day. I put a curly dangly toy on his car seat handle so he even stayed awake in the car! He was awake in the pram whilst dog walking, and in the shopping trolley at tesco. He's usually asleep with all these things.

Thanks for the reassurance ladies I just see it has become more of a problem last week or so and need to avoid it getting worse.

No pancakes for us I returned to Zumba tonight after my baby break lobe love love it so seemed counter productive to hit the pancakes.....though did eat the rest of the Jaffa cakes in the fridge

Stupid question of the day but LO has his 1st jabs on Thursday do they stick them in legs, arms, hip?? Thinking of easy access outfit so can get him done and calmed asap and not good at clothes faffing

I like the cloud idea, aethel! We actually had a PocPoc pancake here! (it's from Abney and Teal, in case anyone was wondering)

NorthernChinchilla, don't worry about narcissism; he probably thinks it's another baby, and is just being friendly! (but I adored the phrase "stoic little potato"!)

Sorry it worked out like that, Mmmcheese; yes, it's tough when the schedule just doesn't allow a stop. Sorry if it was frustrating to be offered impossible advice!

Anyone giving up anything for Lent? I can normally take or leave chocolate, so it's not much of a sacrifice to give it up. This year is a leetle different, though...

Figgy, they go in upper thighs for most babes, so put LO in a poppered vest and a sleepsuit where you can unpopper the legs.

Right, DS fed down so I'm off to bed. And you may notice me posting a little less for the next few weeks. It's Lent, and this year I have decided to try a tech-Lent: so no Facebook or idle surfing the web! More specifically no smartphone internet use while the DDs are awake. I've noticed the tendency to tippytap during "downtime" with the kids (feeding, tv) and it annoys me so I want to stop casual use and see what happens.

I am "allowing" this MN thread once DDs abed, as it's my only antenatal group and it's so therapeutic coming on here and nattering. Plus I'm still allowed to internet shop for specific items only, and to do education stuff for work. Do I sound like a total nutter?!?! Night all....

Not a nutty thing to do at all, aethelfleda; it does make sense to cut back every now and then. I managed to cut my MN usage using the Firefox add-on "LeechBlock", which was recommended to me by someone... on MN! (Geeky Stuff). Unfortunately, the add-on was disabled when Firefox was updated, so I lost my external enforcer!

Before you go, may I ask which phone you use (as it does sound easy to use...)?

I'm not gone yet!! And to be honest I suspect I may find this harder than I've planned... i've got an iphone 3GS but have a rather too keen usage of it, use the multiple safari-windows on the device all the time (only 9 windows at once? What kinda limit is that?!) I also have a good data bundle (and home wi-fi) and the ability to type rather quickly with two thumbs (albeit with spelling mistakes!) . I'm also rather a text-phile though with normal spellings as txt spk drvs me potty...

Back from my hiatus from the interwebs, hope you guys don't mind me barging back. My anxiety ishoos reared their ugly head so needed a break. Good to see the babies are doing well and up to some high jinks.

Just trying to catch up on everyone's news. DD had her BCG jabs today and poor thing was distraught. Will then have proper 8 week jabs next week so all the fun and games are about to start I guess.

aethel Tech withdrawal makes total sense for lent, I am giving up all sugars in food and drink.

plu I know you didn't ask me for the phone advice but I spent the last few weeks reading comparison reviews for my new phone and ended up purchasing the HTC incredible S and it is brilliant. A lot of the HTCs have really good reviews so depending on what other functionality you need they ain't bad. Money saving forum has a really good phone section for comparisons, HTH.

And I've noticed that dH often taps on his phone when the DDs are about eg checking footy scores, browsing bbc news, and skmetimes this is over mealtimes etc, it annoys me and makes me concerned that they will see, aspire and copy,, which made me think about how much I was checking mine. I' ve noticed that too much telly makes the girls crabby, and have previously done "telly detoxes" myself to good effect, so this is an extension. I may even witter about it on here (as to witter about not checking Facebook on Facebook seems a little self-defeating...)

Welcome back fusam :)

Social media is a double-edged sword for me. I suspect I should use it less, but it's a sanity-saver at times when it can be the only adult interaction I get:/

Thanks LMF, I know what you mean. I would love to invent a 'Back away from the Keyboard' alarm that monitors hormone levels via a breathalizer thingymabob

A friend of mine says she can tell when I'm drifting into a dip in mood as I tend to use twitter more. Not sure if that's true but it's an interesting observation.

Anyway. Lent. I'm aiming low this year. No takeaways. We have cut them right down, but none at all for the foreseeable. We will still hve the odd meal out, but nothing delivered by blokes in souped up corsas and fiestas, or falling apart astra in the case of the dotty old man who delivers for the Chinese takeaway.

Saturday nights are going to hurt!

Naughty new computer restarted itself without my say-so! I' m going to give it a takling to!

LMF, that sounds like a good, and money-saving resolution!

Thank you all for phone advcie!

(flipping new keyboard layout is taking some getting used to! )

figgy I love zumba too. The classes at my gym are at 830 though & I find it really hard to get to sleep afterward.
Went to a really good hi/lo aerobics & toning class on Monday though.

Kate that sounds good - it sometimes only takes one decent sleep to make you feel human again ( though more would be good..)

lmf are yours on half term this week then? Thankfully we made our way through that last week.

Everyone having trouble with resumed night waking we have that here too.
H now waking in the night when he was previously going til 5am.
He is also pooing every 3 minutes (it feels like) rather than every 2/3 days like before..

Btw- injections are usually in the thigh whoever asked

plu I'm pretty sure there is a setting where you can choose not to have your pc restart automatically after updates. You can set it to give you a warning message and then choose to postpone the restart.

Hi again fusam!

Good idea re tech reduction aethel. I've been free messaging my sister a lot and we had to make a rule to only do so during the day because both of our partners were getting really annoyed with us tap tap tapping away/ignoring them. Both of us (my husband and I) are online far too much though, going to have to watch that when minimopsy is a bit older and make sure we all interact properly. We always have dinner together properly but are guilty of going online/little interaction at breakfast so as soon as she can sit up and begin to join in, that's going to have to stop. I suspect we'll find it hard!

P.s. I sometimes give up the boozles for lent but given I just had 9 months of near-abstinence, don't think I'll bother this year ...

girls It is indeed half-term, we're always out of sync with everywhere but it means we usually score for quieter day trips:o

Well, she went 11, 1, 3, 5 agaim but managed just to cuddle her back to sleep at 3 without a feed so maybe the force feeding during the day has helped! Unfortunately she swallowed a whole load of air at the 5am feed and I just can't get her to burp so not sure if I'll be getting any more sleep now until DS is up.

plu your post wsnt annoying! Think I will just have to makre more effort to feed her in the day even if its inconvenient with DS. Its difficult to feed her and supervise hgim at playgroups but got to be done!

Some tech abstinence is a good idea, DH and I spend far too much time checking emails/FB/mn for me and twitter/spots news/FB for him. I might have a word tonight.
I may have to rethink our morning co-dozing sessions. LO gets into bed with me when DH goes to work. (he wakes up and needs to be settled but doesn't want a feed -just to be close.) I usually move DH's pillow and put him there on a cellular blanket (to catch any dribbles/spit up). I did the same this morning, but woke to find him sleeping right next to my boob. Clever little sod at finding milk but will have to have a "safety awareness" chat with him.

Oh my DH, he's addicted to that spots news...

jumps in waves at easilybored and sends squishes to the gorgeous Caspar

btw sat next to me on the table i have some clothes and the wilkinet, i WILL find hte instructions for the wilkinet and get them posted this week, i promise, love your ever crap sister

Do NOT get me started on all things techie... Even with my l-t boyfriend before, I referred to myself as a microchip widow. OH is never off the computer, and has a ridiculously large thing upstairs that he plays online games (second world war fighter pilot stuff) on, with the full headset, rudder, pedals, head movement trackers, and also has his football forum too.
So when he got one of the 3G phones, I was immensely irritated that he could now ignore me by going on the computer whilst sitting next to me in the front room!

I have to say part of the impetus for my joining MN originally was to have my own forum to go on and get back at him. The level of computer usage has been a serious issue in our relationship before, but thankfully has reached an acceptable level.

Crap night here too, made worse by the following:
(Last night)
Me: Ooooh, OH, we're out of nappies in the bedroom; as I'm in bed with DS, can you bob down and get some?
OH: Sure!

This morning, after crap night's sleep and desire to get some more, try to change LO- NO NAPPIES. And so DS pees everywhere, which is a marvellous start to the day

Making minestrone and potting up violas today!

I LOVE LOVE LOVE my baby carrier.

That is all

girls it's a good job it only takes one night's sleep to sort you out, because normal service was resumed last night! Full-on grumps all evening until 10pm, then up at 2am and 5am.

I'm taking DS for his first swimming lesson this afternoon. It'll be his first time in the pool, so we'll see how it goes. DD has always loved it, so really hope DS does too.