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seven77 · 20/02/2012 17:38

FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

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NorthernChinchilla · 06/03/2012 09:33

Made perfect sense aethel;things need homes, especially when you have children. And it's the ability to not register stuff that's 50% of the problem YBR, you're right. It's not that they see it and won't do it, it's that they either don't 'see' it, or don't see that it's a problem

That's lovely air; not about the PND, as it sounds like you suffered appallingly, but your DH sounds a star, and very emotionally intelligent.

You will get it free mopsy, but that sounds a bit of a moot point now. I had to get an emergency appointment and anti-bs because of a wisdom tooth when DS was three weeks; however, as figgy will testify, anything above 'basic' work costs. Looks like you'd be best off cancelling if you're in pain, you poor thing.

Spent yesterday sorting the house; got a few odds and sods to do today, including putting out some of the plants and actually planting out the climbing hydrangea, and few e-mails to send. It's all go here!

seven77 · 06/03/2012 10:22

Eva slept until 7! Plan for today is tidy and Hoover this morning then library this afternoon.

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mopsytop · 06/03/2012 10:32

We can't get an nhs dentist. I rang dozens and couldn't get taken on so had to go private. Now I just stay on there for continuity of care. So unfair though the way they were all full :( nhs is supposed to be equal for all but it's so not sometimes.

aethelfleda · 06/03/2012 10:53

Yep mopsy but the NHS is dependant on trained practitioners choosing to work in it. The difference between doctors and dentists is that dntists can choose to do exclusively private work, so most do, as it pays multiples more than NHS work (and also NHS work is cost-limited so they have to work with cheaper materials and methods, which many dentists dislike when they know they could do a better job with the spangly stuff). Private UK doctors have to do NHs work as well, and recognise that the NHS picks up the pieces with all the acute work (you don't want private care if you're in a motorway pile-up or very seriously unwell:all the a&Es and ITUs are NHS...)

There are at the moment enough NHs GPs to go around (just) but many in the profession are worried about this long term: especially with ongoing reforms like the health bill, the government is in the long term going to bring in creeping privatisation by a million cuts. It's a scary prospect but the NHS is a big problem that is never going to be easy to stabilise
in its present form.

aethelfleda · 06/03/2012 10:57

(oh and I do sympathise re the dentist: ours is private but honours maternity exemptions and children on the NHS.)

plutocrap · 06/03/2012 11:30

Determined, you really need to scale back that cleaning regime! I know Fly Lady provides framework for slackers to do more, but could you reduce your cleaning to that?, and be assured that it is an adequate level? Or you could start your own thread (being Grande Dame of a MN perfectionists-trying-to-be-more-slatternly clique (or "quiche", as theses things are called) could also boost your self-esteem. You could haveinspirational posts like: "Today, I spilled milk and left it fr5 minutes and 55 seconds!" OR "I look atmy newborn more and don't spot the dust" Smile)

Perfectionism in general is very bad news in a mother, including for thechildren - not something I make my children tolerate, of course! Wink Please think of the state of our house, and desist! I say "our house" very deliberately: it's not mine, and although I end up doing the housework, I don't feel it's only "mine", and in the long run, I want to make Dh take back some responsibility for it, and to make the DC pick up some responsibility. DS already puts his clothes in the laundry basket, and I make him wipe up his own spills. After marrying a Balkan man, I don't want to take any chnaces with DS. Even though DH has a regrettable interest in "outsourcing" childcare to his mother, and she always gcooks extra for us, and even brought some food this weekend (mind you, that was nice, and very thoughtful of her, saving me the cooking time with DD and DS around!), it has got him in the habit of roasts, so he will cook them when she is away for the warm months. He's also really impressing me at the moment, with his getting up to get DS sorted in the mornings so I can sort DD, breakfast and DS's packed lunch. I'm not saying this to boast, just to show that even an East European man can pull his finger out and pick up his share of domestic things, even when he has a lot of work on (he was working at home till 0530 thismorning!)
seven, that's awful about MIL's thinking BIL would kill himself without her. What the hell is she thinking~?!
NorthernChinchilla, I think your filing perfectionism can be excused, as it only has to be done once, and it saves time for later... NEITHER OF WHICH APPLIES TO HOUSEWORK! Shock

BTW, with regard to the job stress, I can recommend a book called [[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Death-March-Yourdon-Press-Edward/dp/013143635X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1331032822&sr=8-1 "Death March", about dealing with being in an under-resourced, over-spec'd, too-short-timelined project. It is based on IT projects, but I found it relevant to some of my work! His big managers are idiots if they work like that. I know bankers are meant to be bastards, and they also tolerate failures they shouldn't, but one thing they do seem to have right is the setup my DH has been in at various banks (he came from the IT side, so don't worry - he;s not actually a banker): between the IT side (programmers, quants, etc.) and the business users (traders, sales people, etc.) there is an interface, the "business analysts". They make sure they understand the requirements of the business side so they can work with It to iron the bugs out and not bother the people who are busy making money (they don't like to be interrupted), while being able to tell the business people up front what is and isn't possible technically. It seems to be quite a good setup, as it reduces frustration on both sides, and protects each side from unreasonable demands. If he is looking to move, that is a much better set up to be in.

Lovely news about your heart-to-heart, hawthers! Smile And about the bigger clothes!

Coolhand, I know that temptation; I was always out and about in the day wth DS (the pleasures of a spring baby!) and establishing daytime sleeps was... tricky. Yet I'm coddling DD, too, as it is very often impractical to do a lengthy wind-down for her.

AirofHope, poor Hope! Are you just creaming her, or are you wet-wrapping as well? Gievn the time that all takes, I'm not surprised Air has regressed. If it makes you feel better, my DS regressed when we moved house (about 6 months after training, compared to Air's 6 weeks or so - Air is still new to all this). Leave the family out of it for now, as it sounds like they will create more stress and make demands.
Your DH sounds as though he really deserves that lovely tribute you made to him! Smile

MissRee, your buggy did look very substantial when I saw at at the meetup!

BeeMyBaby, I am with you on the smart phone thing! I still haven't found one, though...

Is the tooth better, mopsy?

plutocrap · 06/03/2012 11:32

Sorry, that link should be "Death March"

plutocrap · 06/03/2012 11:42

In amongst all the updating, I forgot to mention we went to look at two houses this weekend. ONe needs a lot of work, so we were quite put off (especially as it's massively overpriced for what it is), but after DH's friends got to work on him, they have got him convinced floors, walls, kitchen, bathroom, wiring and extra loo can all be done for £35K! Confused

I think I might have to put down my size-eights on this one! It needs better budgeting than that...

DeterminedandSpecialMum · 06/03/2012 13:08

Plu Lol @ perfectionist thread Grin

Darcie has to put her Laundry in her basket and make her bed & keep her room tidy so I can see the carpet lol other than that I do the rest.

Before the school run this morning I was up when DP got up, both girls were fast asleep so I sterilized Sky's bottles, went around the kitchen with the flash, once we'd had showers & I'd kicked DP to work I flashed the bathroom and put the washing on. Made sure our bed was made & any rubbish bags had been put out in the trash bin. Got myself dressed and looking sort of like a yummy mummy. Darcie then woke up & I got her breakfast & made sure she had everything for school today and then got Sky changed, dressed & fed all before 8:30 this morning. I now only have a bit of ironing to do which can wait until tomorrow morning.

After picking up Darcie as she was good all day yesterday and this morning. I am taking her to play zone before swimming - am meeting a friend and her daughter there.

Chilli con carne for dinner which is already made to be warmed up later Smile

Darcie had a school assembly this morning about all they have been learning so far and they opted to tell us about he 1st Moon landing - it was very good and they all remembered alot of info.

Just having another cuppa T, a friend popped in this morning and not long left so just having a bite to eat.

aethelfleda · 06/03/2012 13:38

Oh well, I'm much less productive.

So far today have got DDs to school, put on washing, watched "Chocolat " while feeding growth-spurt-boy, rolled the truffles (nom) and microwaved a leftovers lunch. Half put away previous washing and hoovered stairs, but interrupted by g-s-boy wanting more. He's now conked but I know will wake the second I put him down...

HoneyLovesCake · 06/03/2012 15:04

I feel for you aethel Rocco's growth spurt finally ended (after 10 days) on Saturday when I got Shock 4 hours sleep in a row! And he's another one who wakes the second he's put down. I've googled napping for 3 month olds & it's just depressing. If I didn't hold him I don't think he'd sleep at all during the day.

Btw, what happened to 2 day growth spurts?? Is this what happens when you don't just have duvet days for them; did I drag it out by trying to get on with other things? I think I shall attempt to spend the next one in bed or on the sofa...interesting since it may coincide with DP going to Goa if that's what he's doing.

dsm what time do you get up??? Supermum :) I am not a morning person & DS thinks mornings are for catching up on missed meals >_< so I'm about to do my cleaning now. Today I dust & clean the kitchen according to my rota...I'm over it already but as DS is happily bouncing away watching tv I have no excuses!

plutocrap · 06/03/2012 15:14

A bit late for us all, but perhaps the nostalgia will cheer... www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/a1421983-WIBU-to-start-charging-her-rent

NorthernChinchilla · 06/03/2012 16:01

It does feel a looong time since I was pregnant plu, you're right Smile! Although it was, luckily, an easy pregnancy, the one thing I was desperate to get back was my energy, and the ability to walk further than to bathroom and back. Having just yomped along into the next town and back, that thread has reminded me to count my blessings!

How're the evening grumps going aethel, have they settled down yet? A growth spurt on top of that would seem a bit tough, although thankfully Albert is cute enough to get away with it...

After never being awake, then random sleeping, and then several days of not sleeping at all, DS has now kindly got the hang she says touching wood, waving a rabbit's foot and grabbing a black cat of having naps in the daytime. Listening for the squeak, then a darkened room, dummy and white noise do it for us, not sure if any of that would help HLC? Sure you've tried everything going!
'Course, if Rocco's not going to then he's not going to- I'm now firmly of the belief that you can't induce a baby to do anything s/he doesn't want to!

plutocrap · 06/03/2012 17:27

I have just cheated appallingly this afternoon. I took the children to the automatic car wash (for DS), and then for a drive. DD is still asleep, her sleep having survived transfer from the car to her carry-cot. She has a sleeping bag with vents/slits in it for the car seat/buggy crotch strap, so doesn't need to be undressed for the move.

seven77 · 06/03/2012 18:05

plu iPhone! I always thought people who can't cope without their phones were a bit pathetic, since I've had mine I've become one. There's no way I could go back to having a 'normal' phone.

We walked to the library this afternoon then thought we'd better cancel out the exercise by stopping for hot chocolate and cake on the pier cafe [guilty emoticon]. New car tomorrow!

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DeterminedandSpecialMum · 06/03/2012 18:23

Honey I was awake at 5:30 this morning Smile if I keep the house spotless then I just need to flick thru in the mornings then I have the day to myself Smile

Shattered.com

KateM77 · 06/03/2012 19:34

Busy day today. I dropped DD at nursery, then went on to HV clinic to get DS weighed. He's now 15lb 10oz at 11weeks and 4 days. That's another 2lb in the last month, slowed down a bit from the 2lb in 2 weeks we had at last weigh-in, but still firmly on the 91st percentile!

Then went into London, had lunch with a friend, then coffee with DH while DS fed, then popped into work, then back home, picking up DD on the way. The buggy / baby carrier / rucksack combination worked well although Bank tube station was still a bit of a mission! I was pleasantly surprised by the number of people who offered to help me at various points Smile

DD in bed and now tanking up DS for the night. DH playing squash tonight so no dinner for me until I can get out from under DS.

OiMissus · 06/03/2012 20:11

Hola, I didn't go to baby cinema afterall. A couple of my colleagues were arriving early for the meeting tomorrow, so I kept myself available...
I had a productive morning. I cleaned the fishtank! Completely emptied it and scrubbed everything. It took almost 3 hours with intermittent babycare. Grin but now it's gorgeous and ... Ta dah!!! You can see the fish!
Mum, Ali and I met my colleagues for the afternoon for a short walk in the sun followed by coffee n cakes.
And I got a fantastic email about my 2011 bonus. It puts me in a better house-hunting position. Grin I wasn't expecting it to be quite so good. Very happy!
I'll start some serious househunting again. Isn't it fun, Plu?!

MissRee · 06/03/2012 20:29

So after getting my money back from mothercare eventually, we took a trip to Babies R Us to purchase a new travel system.

It was fab, they were practically falling over themselves to help us! We chose the newest Graco travel system, it only came out on Friday Grin only problem was, after putting it all through the till, they then discovered it was out of stock Sad (system error apparently)

Thankfully though, the display model had only been out for 2 days so they sold that one to us with a free autobase AND free accessory pack (footmuff, pram liner and change bag)

Took it out for a stroll today and I LOVE it Grin not quite as funky as my old giraffe print three-wheeler, but practical, light to push and very easy to fold down... and now I don't have to faff with seatbelts when I put her in the car!!! Just clunk click into the base and away we go!!

I'm never ever buying anything from mothercare again unless I can't resist the temptation of the clothes sale I was ogling out the corner of my eye whilst screaming at management

NorthernChinchilla · 06/03/2012 20:38

Oooh, jealous of the autobase! We wanted one but our car's too old Sad. Glad it all got sorted out in the end MissRee, but what a hassle!

We have had teeth issues today. Lots of tears with pain, and then when I took him out in his pram, post Bonjela- timed for nap time so he'd sleep in it- he actually feel asleep with his fist rammed in his mouth. As he was wearing scratch mits I actually unzipped the weather shield to check he wasn't going to smother himself... Blush.
He made an interesting mess of DP's trousers with the drool too!

And plu, that's not cheating, that's smarts that is!

Figgygal · 06/03/2012 20:48

Kate I've just been with Danny to be weighed and he's 10wks 5 days and also a 15lber on his 91st centile.

Just been to zumba lots of half hearted arm flailing from me think lugging around 15lb Monster will tone my arms just fine Grin

aethelfleda · 06/03/2012 21:25

DS is in bed.
seven, your truffle recipe rocks.
Am currently sewing padding into the school Father Christmas costume as last year we received a complaint from a parent that Santa was too skinny.
Then I'm off to attempted bed myself. Hope people get some rest, and see you on the night shift!

AnAirOfHope · 06/03/2012 21:38

Hope had her 2nd jab today - i forgot abouit it and was 5 mins late, her ezcema is flaering up again and had row with DH as we are both so tired.

Want tomoro will be better.

EasilyBored · 06/03/2012 21:42

aethal ds also in bed here. Feel like I'm holding my breathe waiting for him to wake up.

hawthers · 06/03/2012 21:44

Weigh in tomorrow and I'm not that stressed - we have some chubby thighs! Surely we'll have an acceptable gain.

Nct ladies around for coffee today and I made lemon cake and flapjacks yum. Lots of lovely chat and gossip. One of the really nice girls is moving to really close to me. I'm really looking forward to a lovely year with all my new mum pals.