December 2011 - crying and grizzling (and that's just the mums!)

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

Northern DP is like that never puts things back in its place even if he stood right in front of it :( I can't live like that.

Mopsy DP does cook at weekends and i cook weekdays. he's finishing work tonight about 5ish - will take him half hr to get home, he'll have his dinner and then head to the pub about 6:30ish. That's normal for a monday here.

Do you get anight off where you go out as well dsm?

I just ask because it seems to me that you could really benefit from a few hrs a week on your own with no husband or kidd, just time to yourself. If your partner goes out every Monday maybe you could set aside a few hours some other day where he minds the kids.

Mopsy At the moment no I don't i'm here 24/7

Good lord I have the hates for mothercare right now!!! I've just had another row with them as the piece of crap stroller they supplied me with on loan has just BLOWN OVER with freya in it!!!! Thank bob I'd already strapped her in!!

I feel a bit sorry for the manager as I gave her a right earful. I'm currently waiting for her to come back with a more suitable replacement. If they can't provide one then I'm not leaving without a refund!!!!

Maybe you could start taking a few hours dsm? it would probably really do you good. And it might do your partner good to have sole responsibility of the girls even for a few hours a week. It's important to get a bit of time to yourself to keep you sane, I find that anyway.

MissRee That is absolutely shocking. Hope you get a sturdy replacement and sharpish!!! What did the manager have to say? I stay away from Mothercare personally - their customer service is appalling.

Mopsy I know I should have time to myself & do stuff with my friends but they are parents too so its hard. Almost like mums have more responsibility iykwim.

I was thinking of doing Zumba once a week.....

dsm, that's a brilliant idea. Time to yourself plus endorphins from exercise-win win combination!

either Zumba or body balance anyway x

Well, today's cheap thrills are courtesy of the tumble dryer. DS is in his chair in front of it now, and the gurgles of pleasure echoing from the kitchen are brilliant! Means I can get on with tidying...

My Dad and stepmum were a bit like that figgy; not snobby, but there was no-one for my little sis to play with, and so they'd drag her along to whatever they were doing at a weekend. Which is sort of fine, but you have to take something along to entertain the LO, and/or one of you is on LO duty whilst the other chooses plants or whatnot as I tried to patiently explain to them on a regular basis. They'd act all surprised and confused when their two year old daughter was kicking off when they were in their third hour of choosing a new oven...

mopsy, it does them no good at all, and I swear I will not do it to DS. DP's Mum still clears up after her 45 year old son whilst he's living with them (divorce issues) and then grumbles. They still - and this is very embarrassing to admit - control DP's savings/shares. He is 31, has a mortgage, and is now a father. It pisses me off royally, and I keep on telling him it has to change.

I really believe all young people should have to run a household for at least a year on their own before being let out onto the dating market!

And MissRee, that is appalling! Is she OK? I know I said it was windy round our way but that's just awful. I'd've given them an earful too, even though it's not the manager's fault.

I've now been sent to the gravesend store as the only alternative they could offer was broken!!!!! I'm off home to get my sling and I'm not leaving the shop until I have my money back!!!

Northern Thing is before I moved in here. I had my own flat where DD & I lived - his mother would still come around weekdays and clean and prepare a dinner for him. Would also take his laundry home and wash & iron it. This was when he brought the house, so moved out but his mum still did everything?!

MissRee I hope you get your money back

Wow DSM, that's taking it a step further!

It does nothing but leave the son as a child...which I guess is part of the 'plan'. Mother wants to feel needed, as it's her job (my DP's parents are from a slightly older generation where women didn't really work), and as the boy grows up they don't know any different.

I often said for me it was similar to Victorian times, but the other way round; it was the man who passed directly from the 'ownership' of his parents to his significant other.

But the end result is someone who can't stand on their own two feet. I'm sure your OH has many excellent qualities (as does mine!) but it really gives you a how not to do it of parenting...

Going back to the weaning subject, can anyone recommend a good BLW book? I'm trying to decide whether to try it as I will be going to visit MIL around that time so need to make sure is feasible.

It takes ages to catch up with this thread! I don't know how other ladies with 2+children are managing - I need to get myself a smart phone :P

Bee A smartphone def helps lol.

I will sound really dim now but what BLW weaning?

Baby led meaning, I think it means no spoon feeding, just letting them eat stuff with their hands, but I'm not sure what stuff exactly.

*baby led weaning!

oh right. That's what I done with Darcie. Things Like pieces of fruit to suck & knaw on...Darcie loved pieces of peach & nectarine. Wotsits, breadsticks & rusks are good. Carrot, cucumber & babycorn are good too.

bee I only keep up because I have the iPad. BLW book honestly, you don't need it though. All I do is prepare our food without salt then give the baby a bowl, if one of them shows signs of allergy I then go to single foods. Then, if our meal isn't suitable they get a banana.

Darcie has finally got a wobbly tooth. Fruit works I tell ya...Apples are brilliant tooth wobbling things lol

Hazzah f has moved up into 0-3 month clothes which means he must be growing

Brilliant news Hawthers.

DSM your cleaning regime puts me to shame!

MissRee that is shoddy alright - hope you get money back.

Northern that sounds like an interesting weekend!

I'm currently trapped under a sleeping Luke in a seriously uncomfortable position - think I need to make a break for freedom...

These men have a choice though, it's up to them to want to be independent. BIL is 41 and still lives as home(!), MIL is 75 but still makes his bed and his packed lunch . DH didn't leave home until he was 30 but insisted on doing things himself, he didn't see why she should let her clear up after him.

missree too bloody right you should get a refund, I'd have gone bloody ballistic! Hope Freya is ok.

It's still raining! And there's a slight leak in the utility room due to the really bad fitting back door (we have another internal door into the dining room). The rain is laying on it and every time there's a gust of wind water is coming under the door. Not what I wanted to come home to.

Meant to add that these mothers really aren't doing their sons any favours, unless obviously there's a learning difficulty meaning they can't be independent, which is completely different. MIL has previously expressed serious concerns to DH that she thinks BIL will consider suicide after she dies because she thinks he won't be able to cope :(

I was basically looking after myself at 12 years old so been independent for a long long time!

Coolhand I can't stand an untidy home - OCD alert! I have to go around with the flash in the kitchen everyday too.

Am changing the accessory colour i'n my living room to teal too.