December 2011 - crying and grizzling (and that's just the mums!)

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

Another one still on the nightshift here urgh!

coolhand please can your Luke have a word with my Kieran - 7 till 5 would be total heaven. Thanks

aethelArgh you just reminded me I have to find book day costumes..

Dd1 wants to be little red riding hood in a blue cape

Me too itsy - DS finished feeding half an hour ago - he is still kicking and snorting but won't latch on again, and now the dawn chorus is starting (nicely masking le chanson du snore performed by DH)!

Oh well...tis my prime MNing time anyway.

Has your DH had enough haddocks now, kate, or should I throw one in for good measure?

LO slept from 8:45pm till 05:20!!!!!!!!
I know it's a one off, and my boobs were killing, but Hurrah with side helpings of pompoms!
I never thought I'd be uttering such things as "I'm glad he had a poo", easily. And now I'm going to say that I wish he would have another. Since the poosplosion at 3pm, there's been nothing. He had better not start saving them up for sock-fillage. That would not be on.
He is a little imp. When he went back in his crib at 5:40, his breathing sounded snotty and very laboured, so I stayed up tokeep an eye on it. Then he started kicking about and being a bit upset. So I let him come into bed ...where he proceeded to sleep beautifully as soon as he hit the mattress. Until I go to pick him up to put him back, then the gulpy breaths start. I sense mischief!

My life is really crap right now - I love my girls dearly and having Sky brought extra happiness - however, Darcie is making life unbearable that I hate myself for it and i' getting yelled at by DP too.

Your partner needs to reign himself in, as yelling at anyone can cause her behaviour to get worse. He's being a bit of a muppet

You're doing fabulously, just keep reminding yourself that this too will pass and at some point it will all click :)

Oh determined that doesn't sound good.

How is her behaviour at school?

Determined i can't imagine how tough things are for you right now. I wish I had some practical advice that would make right now feel better but all i can say is take each moment as it comes, remember that you're a brilliant mum the fact that you care so much shows that. Try and focus on all the beautiful moments you'll get to share with your daughters both now and in the fututre because this will get easier.

Had a crazy couple of days since meeting some of you lovely ladies at bluewater. After lulling me into a false sense of security with being predictable with feeds and sleep. DS has decided he no longer likes sleeping and wants to eat all the time, so been a bit all over the place.

I managed to get my first bit of me time this week though and booked DS into the creche at my gym for an hour so i could swim, was absolute heaven. DS didn't miss me at all and charmed all the staff with his smiles :)

Miss Ree screaming down the phone over a haircut sounds a bit extreme and I though my DP's ex-wife was bad! Although we do check most things with her first now so that we don't step on any toes.

Had fun with the health visitor on Tuesday when I had DS weighed he'd gained alot and she started asking about how much I feed him and suggested i may be over feeding him as he'd jumped centiles by a lot. Then i pointed out she'd filled in the chart incorrectly ... so his weight gain was normal not abnormally large. She shut up about the food then :o

Really LMF? it was only a trim, not a drastic restyle! I could possibly understand it if he'd hone home with a mullet or a Mohawk!

Good morning lovely ladies of the thread!

Whilst your OH is probably fighting his way, surprised, to get out of the mountain of haddocks and swordfish that have suddenly descended on him, I do hope things are improved Kate. He needs to realise that what he said was not the most helpful, and that one bottle of formula does not equal giving up bf. Hope today's a bit easier for you.

Crap news about the wheels MissRee, and four weeks is ages; don't think I'd cope.

Glad you're seeing the HV today AWCH, is she any good? The tooth thing won't help either, talk about insult to injury. We watch all manner of stuff with DS, and I'd guess up to a year you'll be OK, but I've nothing to base that on!

Bee- that's what my OH is scared of; I'm willing to give it a go, but he's terrified of hurting him (probably not helped by the fact that OH did the first 'whoops' with DS and banged his head on the table; it was going to happen, but he felt awful...)

How lovely Oi! Your boobs must've been ready to pop though .

You sound like you're having a tough time Determined, and your OH needs to get on board and help you handle the kids as a team. You're doing everything you can, and we all know you're doing an excellent job.

DS is now going through a stage where 7-11, both morning and night, he's not sure whether he wants to be asleep or awake- lots of 5-10 minute naps (occasional longer ones, such as now!) his 'I'm tired' whinge, periods of being awake, waking earlier but then going back to sleep, falling asleep earlier but then waking... May try and pounce on this to make 'sleep time' 8-8- he'll still want feeding at least four times in that period, but getting some evening back may be fun.

Off to sort out nursery, bank appointment, and review papers for work, whoop!

Thanks for all the haddocks ladies. I was able to stop short of the swordfish so I'll hand that over to determined

DH spent the rest of the evening making amends by doing nappy changes, winding and settling DS between feeds. And he got up and settled DD when she randomly woke at 5.45am.

We ended up doing feeds at 7,9 and 11 last night making a total of 11 for the day. DS woke frequently through the night crying out, but then kept settling down again just as I reached his room, so that he only fed at 3 and 8. So thankfully it looks like it was a growth spurt and I'll perservere with BF. Fingers crossed tonight he'll be more settled and I won't be up and down like a bleedin' yo-yo!

Rhyme time this morning - a world book day special version! Then to the village school for Mums and tots this afternoon

Morning! Better night's sleep last night, all DDs asleep by 8.30 and everyone slept through! Thus allowing Ianto to be thoroughly enjoyed

cool Miri is similar in that she is great at night but crap at daytime sleep. She cat naps for twenty minutes max. However, DD2 was like this too and her daytime sleep became wonderful once she was crawling, so there is hope!

Re baby entertainment...you just need more children

AWCH depends on the baby, I think DD1 was about 9mths when she started noticing our unsuitable TV, DD2 was a bit younger.

easily did you get my pm? Not sure if it worked!

mopsy gah! I'm dreading it, I have had two periods in 6 years and three months!

oi sounds like it might be your smell that knocked him out when he came into bed. Have you tried sleeping on his basket sheets before you put them on?

determined hugs, hope things improve soon.

Off to stick washing out on the line, it is lovely and sunny here!

Sympathies Mopsy mine returned yesterday too thankfully they're nowhere near as hellishbad as they were pre-pregnancy yet

Are we ok to use tampons now then? I wasn't sure. Haven't got my 6 week check until 15 march by which point Freya will be 9 weeks

Thanks Ladies. Whats frustrating me the most is that she is choosing to behave like this at home as she can behave herself anywhere else. It is totally draining. DP says he shouts at me because I vent my anger & frustration about Darcie on him - I did point out i'm never nasty even when I do vent and whoever taught him to behave that was needs a bloody good kick up the arse! He called me a joke of a person last night :( as I lost my temper again with Darcie, I did explain i'm at the end of my tether and have a short fuse and although I have got better I was shattered last night, trying to settle Sky and she was kicking off and I lost my rag! I can't win, I feel such a failure that I can't even control or sort my own daughter out.

Sorry for delay in replying MissRee doing school stuff involves mobile reception black spots >_<

It may be due to the dynamic between their dad and I, but he doesn't have any input into stuff like that. He has never liked our older boy's hair, but he's not the resident parent or more importantly, the child, so has no right to do anything about it. If your partner has never been involved in stuff like that she may have taken the view that he's stepping on her toes and doing her job? There's no need for screaming down the phone though. Unusually find that chuntering under my breath about the ridiculousness of the idiot man while I wash pots is enough:o

Having a wobbly couple of days. Seeing doctor tomorrow though so might mention not then.

Haddocks and pompoms as needed.

Determined I wish I could do more than offer ((hugs)) and dispense various fish. I can entirely sympathise. I have a short fuse and whilst there are some days when I can cope calmly with DD's tantrums, there are other days when I'm sleep deprived and I lose it. DH always gets angry with me when that happens.

Please come on here and vent whenever you need to.

determined sorry to hear about your stresses - your oh is not helping though, but fear mine would be the same in the same situation , so hugs and sympathies.

easily kate I am struggling to keep up the breast feeding too and am now topping up at least once a day with a bottle. my dh doesnt really approve either but ds was completely formula fed by 16 weeks and he didnt have a problem with that. I dont think they understand how exhausting bf ing can be - dh sees it as sitting watching tv but she likes to feed little and often and it is hard with ds and everything else as well.

right ds is at preschool, freya has just conked out on a feed so time to get on and do some jobs.

I haven't got to pick up Darcie from school until 4pm today as she is at music club afterschool. Will prepare a lasagne for dinner tonight and head over to my mums once picked up Darcie at 4pm for a cuppa and gain a bit of sanity before we get home.

I know DP doesn't mean it as I know he's just as wound up as me. I prob don't help things when I lose my temper but right now I just can't help it as I have no more to give :(

Sorry for the mememe posts to, i'm failing at everything at the moment!

Determined please don't apologise. You're having a really rough time at the moment - this thread is here for you to vent. Space to vent, supportive hugs and are all we can offer so please use that liberally! You deserve it!

AWCH sorry to hear things are so rough. Hope dentist appnt goes well and that you can eat soon!

Itsybitsy sending sleeping vibes and to everyone else who needs them! Having said that, we're regressing - we've gone from 7 to 6.30 last week, then it moved back to 7 to 5 for a couple of days and this morning was 7 to 4.15. Still, I'm not complaining - I know it's brilliant!

Msbuggy more children is exactly what my mum says is the answer! I'd better get onto it!

Northern that sounds like a very productive day plan - I'm impressed!

I'm heading into work this evening for an event and am looking forward to it (quite sadly). The chance to dress in professional clothes without fear of anyone being sick over them for a few hours is quite refreshing! My DH is away all this weekend with work so it'll also give me a chance to escape for a few hours before that!

((((hugs)))) @ Determined

I have added some new pic's to profile if you wana take a look!

dsm I feel exactly the same rubbish at everything - a shit mum and a shit wife. My fuse is so short at the moment that I seem to explode over everything. Not a good day here either so you are not alone

Hawthers Sorry your feeling the same as me :( not a good feeling at all. (((hugs)))

And u just feel rather gutted as I'd like to enjoy this time with ds1 and I'm finding it hard to.

• I mean I feel not u