December 2011 - crying and grizzling (and that's just the mums!)

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FairyBayleaf DC1 EDD 6th Dec BORN 29th Sept Albert Elwyn 2lb 14oz
Tjuice DC2 EDD 21st November BORN 7th Nov Amaya Rose 3kg
Sevensevenseven DC2 EDD 20th Dec 25yo Southwold BORN 21st Nov Eva Rose 5lb 4oz
Girlwiththemouseyhair DC2 EDD 24th Nov Maggie Juliet BORN 25th Nov 8lb 9oz
YBR DC1 EDD 22nd Dec BORN 25th Nov (girl) 6lb 3.5oz
LittleBlueBoat(Cheeptrick) DC2 EDD 5th Dec 29yo S.Yorkshire BORN 26th Nov Hope Brynn Frances 8lb 9oz
Kri5ty DC1 EDD 13th Dec 26yo Manchester Boy BORN 29th Nov Saul Harrison 6lb 13oz
LauraSmurf DC1 EDD 3rd December Girl BORN 30th Nov
BeeMyBaby DC2 EDD 29th November 25yo Scotland BORN 1st Dec Safia Hawwa 7lb6oz
SoTiredOfTheWheelsOnTheBus DC2 EDD 7th December BORN 1st December Boy 8lbs5oz
Iggly DC2 EDD 2nd December South London BORN 2nd Dec (Girl) 8lb 1oz
Girlsyearapart DC4 EDD 6th December BORN 3rd Dec (Boy) 7lb 7oz
HoneyLovesCake DC1 EDD 2nd December Cornwall BORN 6th Dec Rocco Kaleb 8lb 14oz
Mmmmcheese DC2 EDD 25th December 32yo BORN 7th Dec (Girl) 7lb8oz
Itsybitsy08 DC2 EDD 6th December Boy BORN 9th Dec Kieran 8lb4oz
Msbuggywinkle DC3 EDD 13th December 27yo BORN 10th Dec Miranda 8lb6oz
OiMissus DC1 2 December, 39yo, Horwich, Bolton BORN 10th Dec (Boy) Alistair Jude 9lbs
jigglebum BORN 11 Dec Freya 7lbs
Pludophtherednosedreindeer (plupervert): DC2 EDD Dec 10 (Kent) BORN 12 Dec Helena 8lb 6oz (3.8kg)
NorthernChinchilla- EDD 19th December, BORN 12th Dec, Boy, 7lb 7oz
Jomouse DC1 EDD 2nd December 35yo London BORN 14 Dec (Girl) 5lb 8oz
Tyelperion DC1 EDD 3rd December 27yo Windsor BORN 14 Dec (boy) 9lb 8oz
KateM77: DC2 EDD Dec 10 34yo BORN 16 Dec Daniel James 8lb 6oz
BennyBenBear DC1 EDD 5th December Manchester/Bolton BORN 18 Dec Oliver Stephen Bolton 8lb 9oz
Kiteflying DC2 EDD 7 December 44yo Australia BORN 18 December (Girl) Lulu 8lb 14 oz
mopsytop DC1 EDD 25th December BORN 19 Dec 6lbs 11oz
AWomanCalledHorse DC1 EDD 22nd December BORN 21st December 7lbs 6oz (Boy)
Figgygal DC1 EDD 12 December 30yo Bath BORN 22 Dec Daniel James McMillan 9lb 4oz
Kitty5824 DC1 EDD 21st December 33 yo Manchester - Don't know BORN 23rd Dec, Boy, 7lb 14oz, Sebastian John
Aethelfleda DC3 EDD 27th December London BORN 3rd January, Albert Thomas William 8lb 10 oz
hawthers DC2 EDD 22nd December London 33yo BORN 28 December 7lb 4oz (boy)
LittleMissFlustered DC3 31st December BORN 6 Jan (boy)
hopeful1 BORN 6 Jan Noa Francie Kate 10lb 3oz
MissRee BORN 12 Jan 12 Freya Violet 7lb 7oz

stellie, much sympathy: keep sipping water and first thing tomorrow (unless your DP can get to a late-night chemist tonight) get some dioralyte from over the counter: it's rehydration salt-and-sugar solution that absorbs quicker than plain water: even keeping it down for 10 minutes means it will mostly get absorbed and help rehydrate you more effectively. Hopefully it's just a 24 hour thing...

Lovely to see some of you today (the m25 was fine fortunately) and oh yes, we were impeccably behaved (babies weren't too bad either...)

Oh and seven, home-made rehydration salts only work properly if they are in the exact right proportion of sugar to salt to water for your gut mucosa to absorb it quickly. It's a lot easier to use dioralyte (one sachet makes up to 200ml ) and if cost is an issue ask your GP to prescribe it and then it's free. I'm sure the internet could tell you how much salt to sugar you need to DIY but dioralyte is easier.

I just got 2.5 hours sleep which is good as I was dying >_<

Back to the nightshift now. Hope he goes longer than the hour again.

He didn't:(

And really hope yoi get longer this time lmf

No wusses here >_<

Just under two hours. I'm chanting in my head: this too will pass.

DD went down a bit earlier tonight at 9.30 but has made uo for it by feeding/winding/squirming with wind for last 2 hrs. DS also intermittently sobbing in his sleep.

Still having problems with blocked ducts. Always in the same place on right side of right boob. The lumps go right into my armpit - do we have milk ducts there too or should I be worried about the lump in my armpit? Pretty sure it appeared at the same time as the blocked ducts.

It appears that freya has decided that sleeping through is really not her thing. Having treated us to a 9.30 - 6.30 stretch on Saturday, she woke at 4.30 yesterday and I'm up with her now

Mmm I know that breast tissue extends up into the armpit, but have no idea about milk ducts. Might be worth ringing your GP in morning to ask for advice?

Hello all!! Uurrggghh so tired ...

Mmmm, fmf is right, there's actriangle of breast tissue tyat extrnds toeards the armpit tho it usually stops short. Sometimes blocked ducts can cause lymph glands in the armpit to emlarge. If concerned, the lumps persist for over a week or two, or if they get bigger, see your GP. And resist the urge to Google...

Nearly time to get up .

I am still up with DD and been quietly crying for the past hour. She swallows loads of air when she feeds and then I can't put her down as she just grizzles and squrims but I have now been winding her for 4/5 hours and still not got a single burp up but still can't put her down. Totally at the end of my tether tonight. :(

mmm big hugs, I'm right there with you tonight. if my husband asks me one more time why he's being like this, I'm going to punch him in the face. With a chair. If I knew what WA wrong, don't you think we'd all be bloody asleep?!

mmmm I had a huge lump in my armpit about three days after Ollie was born and was told it was a milk duct. Massage under a hot shower for a few days got rid of it as well as feed, feed, feed, express!

Urg. Def a not good night: LMF you are not alone (feeds at 1.30,3,4.30 and now 7.)

Morning Ladies,

Sorry to see some of you had a rough night.

All hell broke loose last night thanks to Darcie over a sodding carrot. Her tea was thrown across the carpet in a rage, stamping of the feet, screaming ultrasonic, yelling that she doesn't like us and that she will not be told what to do. Neil yelled at me although he did apologise straight after. So as usual feeling like a shit mother, as all it was over was a sodding carrot stick

Today I'm taking Sky to a friends who's baby was also born in Dec (5days after Sky) and we are going along to their first baby group with them so that should be good. Then school run & swimming for Darcie later and then prepare for WW3 again

Am physically & emotionally shattered.

easily pmsl @ decking husband comment

Lots of rough nights around it seems. Hope there are chances of naps for all today.

I appear to be nesting a bit delayed I know. Got an urge to clean the oven...

DSM - when she said she didn't like you, do you tell her that you still love her but not this behaviour? when there is a new child in the house the first child just wants to know that her mum and dad love her still. We she starts give her a pillow and tell her to hit it untill she feels better, that you can see she is angry and that you will talk about it once she has calmed down.

Empthy, Love, Redirect and problem solve together.

or ignore me as i'm ill and have fuzzy head and not very confident in giving advice.

I just feel for Darcie as she is trying to tell you something but in code. Hope you find the decoder.

Air We tell her no matter what we love her so much. We just don't like her behavior at the time. when she's calmed down we try and talk to find out what the problem is, so we can rectify it. She mainly said I don't know, but also said its because she doesn't get her way.

I'm trying my hardest to be fair.

DSM - you are doing a great job, i think of it in the same way as a baby crying as they can't tell you what is wrong when they are older they have tantrums to tell you something. Maybe she just gets angry and does not know how to deal with feeling angry, so she has a tantrum as she knows this works and then she feels better?

I hope you get the CMHT ref. soon and Darcie feels better soon. Its so hard when they behaviour like this.

My sister uses the "If they are safe ignore it" techque with her 9yo. When he kicks off she just leaves the room and ignores him and when he calms down makes him clean everything up without shouting at him - He hates not having an audance

So much of child raising is trial and error

Sending you esp hugs and lots of posative vibes

Easily I had something similar withy DH this morning- grumbles that jos sleep was disturbed followed by the suggestion that "maybe you're
Doing too much so that DS doesnt have enough time to feed..." i then explained (calmly!) that we have 3 kids and a house to run and would he like to test the theory by taking a day off and doing the childcare and housework so I can snuggle in front of the telly with hot and cold running food like Cleopatra, and feed DS? He went a bit quiet, said "I see what you mean..."
I think the issue is very much one of The Conk. My babies tend to have one "longer" conk in 24 hours. If it's 9-3 we're laughing. If it's 8-11 I've had it as after that it's 2 hour feeds for the rest of the night in a 50 mins on- 70 mins off formation. I am trying to ignore the fact that dD2 did this for months...

((((hug)))) mopsy, I hope you're a little better and can nap later.

Right, signing off as school Run time. See you girls this evening!

Air We do that with Darcie, we send her out of the room to calm down and then come and pick things up and apologise. It's the only way I can deal with things without screaming like a banshee at her

Thanks CAMHS said it will be April when we get an appointment.