April 2011 - silence might be golden but the April ladies are diamond so chat on

[GlaikitFizzog]

Ta Dah!

Wellity wellity well. The temp we employed to do 3 days (2 of which are my non working days) is.........15 weeks pregnant. . should make things intertesting for HR

Tee hee Kitty. Situations like that make me grin ........ and make me glad I am not an employer!

The boys have been playing beautifully together with the Brio (wooden train track to the uninitiated) all afternoon. Then M decided to poke Baby I because 'I took the traffic lights from me', it all went rapidly downhill after that. Tears all round and I still hasn't forgiven M, and M is now doing his best to be nice to his brother.

This is just one of the behavioural things we have going on with M at the moment. I do wonder if it's a jealousy thing. This is the first sign of M resenting his brother, I knew it had to come sooner or later

Oo er Kitty that will be interesting!

MtoT I'm a Barn Owl too (or was, with S I haven't been able to return to my old pack as I can't logistically get there with not driving )I got off lightly as we asked the girls to name us...Barn Owl (it's an owl, good), Blackbird (not an owl but at it's a bird) but Snow Leopard not many of them round these parts! Though it was an improvement on Esther which was the other front runner

Had S to the doctors with the gunky eyes and a high temp. Got ointment for the eyes and have spent the rest of the day with a very miserable baby. Lots of cuddles required though I am now aware that I have a set of prospectus proofs I have to mark up for tomorrow...late night for me.

ILike you have just described what many afternoons in our house are like!! DS1 is a mega-handful at the moment, incredibly stroppy 'I won't Mummy'

Glad it's not only me Ali. There have been a few biting incidents (him doing the biting) at pre school (I am MORTIFIED), being a total pita at mealtimes, arseing around at bedtime. I could go on ............

I guess I had it coming. He was pretty much the model child (ie he done everything I asked him to do!) until he was 2.5. Babies are so much easier in some ways.

Apart from moaning about my toddler, I meant to say that I hope S feels better soon Dairy.

How fab we have 2 Barn Owls on the thread, such fun I like the random suggestion of Esther as well!

Day 2 done and dusted! Laptop and badge appeared today, so I just need a desk. I can hot desk for a while so it's not a huge problem!

Cycle I have made those letil wedges for B before and they were horrible. I later realised I forgot to put the egg in . Will give them another go this weekend. Rice cakes and dairlea went down well. I also did some roasted sweet potato and carrot and a wee pot of mashed avocado. Added to that i sent some grapes, apricots and a banana and he took the lot!! He loves bananas! I think finger food is the way to go. Spoons are for weaklings according to B :o

In other news, our mice have returned! But we have caught 2 of the little blighters!

It's also our wedding anniversary tomorrow! 4 years! Wow! We aren't doing anything, but B is going to stay with Grandma and Granda Fizz soon, so we'll do something then.

Having some cheesecake as a reward for working :o, and it's my short day tomorrow, so home for lunch and an afternoon with my boy!

Congrats Fizz!

Hope little one feels better soon Dairy.

Try not to worry about the biting ILTMIMI, at music school we've had a few niooers in the three-year-olds classes. One is now a star student a couple of years down the line. Toddlers are as hormonal as teenagers as they're growing so fast, I'm sure the preschool understand.

Congrats fizz

Fizz how are you catching your mice? We have a them too and though we've caught a couple they now seem to be avoiding the traps and blatantly dancing round the room infront of us DH has tried Snickers, Galaxy, Mars, Caramel (both Galaxy and Cadbury's) Bounty, peanut butter and finally cheese. We even saw one mouse run over the trap without it springing. One corner of the room is like a Tom and Jerry cartoon with a number or traps around a hole :o

M seems to be virtually back to her normal smiley self and sleep seems to be improving. Fingers crossed for a good night tonight. Not bad so far :)

Snap traps with cheese. Our mousies are coming from behind the fridge so we have a whole line of them down the side. If the skip over one, the next one gets them!! We did try some choclate kurd, but they didn't like it either!! We think they are coming from the loft though so I might have to call in the professionals. Our council do 2 visits free, so will give the "mouseman" :o a call. Can you block up the hole? My dad filled (or so he thought) all the holes in the kitchen using expanding foam. I suspect they have chewed through it, but can't tell unless we pull ou tthe units.

We did try humane ones after I started a thread here and was guilt tripped in to not killing the poor wee beasties, but then found droppings in Bs toy basket and it was WAR :o!

According to the mouse man at work they are rather partial to a banana! And I found one in a loaf of bread once!

Just watched OBEM. Another year and pregnant for the new series. Lol.

S is in a bad way with the pox now. He's got loads of big red spots and he's hot and grumpy. Poor little fella

Poor S kitty , watched OBEM too, I got fery weepy at the ELCS, her's seemed so much nicer than mine. I was laid out on the bed in a crucifix pose and wasn't allowed to even touch B until out of recovery . Will demand free arms next time and baby snuggles.

What're the chances, Dairy! Did the little darlings actually call you Barn owl, or did you get shortened too? Our other owls are Snowy and Tea-tOwl (her choice, she's a bit mad!). We've also had Bath tOwl, Simon COwl (Cowell, geddit?) and VOwl (vowel - not absolutely sure the kids 'got' that one!!).

Hope the 2 S's feel better soon!

JKS my mother was shocked that I wouldn't give M chocolate buttons at Christmas.

ecuse oh lord that sounds a right nightmare. Did you have an appointment time or was it one of those turn up and chance it clinics? If you had an appointment I'd be really tempted to complain.

MrsW I definitely wouldn't drop all milk feeds at 9mo and still offer the bottle. She may just be off it because she's teething. And YANBU about the crisps- just tell nursery you don't want her having them as a regular part of her diet.

Yay for the Owls! I live some of the different names. I was a Snowy owl and then a Brown Owl.

Oooh kitty obviously something about your hair at work! Don't envy HR that one. Sending get well soon thoughts to S and I highly recommend porridge oats in the bath to ease the itching.

dairy poor little man :( hope he gets well soon

iltmi biting happens, nursery staff know this. As long as you're working on it they'll be supportive. Siblings arriving can be a huge shock to the system so no matter how frustrating it is normal for there to be some jealousy. Cold comfort but I suspect we're all going to have to deal with it at some point!

Congratulations fizz and glad today went better!

about the mice. I hate them but can't deal with totalling them. We appear to have been invaded by geckos. Yuck.

Glad M is better chilli your DH is very inventive.

Nothing new here really other than a bizarre 4am wake up with inconsolable crying solved by boob. I half wonder whether it's post bath toy trauma - he has a new whale which lights up and makes noise and scared him half to death. So much that we had to take him out the bath and he sobbed for 5 minutes, then we tried to show him the whale (switched off) once he had calmed down and he burst into tears again

Apparently mice can get through a hole the size of a pencil The little blighters. We have 3 cats so the only mice we get in the house are dead ones

Thanks for your kind words about the biting Dh and I have had discussions with the preschool about it and have identified why it happens (it only happens there and it's not the same 'victim' every time) and they are going to keep a closer eye on him for a while when the particular situation comes up. I think because of the way the staff initially talked to us about it and the grave way in which they report it, the situation is given more weight than is necessary (IMO). So what is actually quite a common thing is blown out of proportion.

I guess the new whale toy will be put away for a while then Frakk?!

Happy anniversary Fizz , it's our 4th this year too.

Why were you put in the crucifix pose Fizz? Don't answer if you don't want to btw.

I didn't really hold ds1 until we were in recovery. I remember the MW latched him on (I was still laying flat) and I went to stroke his cheek as it was the first time I had really got a hold of my baby, and she batted my hand away saying that I would distract him - and I didn't argue with her. I have never forgiven her for that.

That's one of of the (many) reasons why I found my VBAC's so healing. I birthed my babies MYSELF. I brought them up out of the water MYSELF. The first person to hold them was ME. They went straight to the breast and no other bugger got near them for ages

How's the pox Kitty? I hope you both have a better day today.

Oh ILike, it is awful when they do things at preschool. DS1 decided to shove hay in another child's face in the middle of the nativity, right in front of all the parents. I wished the ground would swallow me!!
Is baby I nipping M, which is giving him the idea to bite? We had a brief period of that a few weeks ago, which thankfully passed without DS1 biting anyone except DH and I. I was SO angry with him though, I think he was a bit scared of how cross I was and he hasn't done it again.

Frak - my mother - a doctor! - started feeding T some dessert at the weekend, which had nuts in it. I was like 'er, mother' She was very apologetic and gave him some cake instead

JKS - we are pretty relaxed here with food. T has had chips, pizza etc, and developed a real fondness for mince pies over Christmas (homemade ones though). He has had fish fingers but I've picked the coating off, I think I won't bother tonight

I am ill today, again. DH is around thank goodness because he's on gardening leave before he gets made redundant next week. We are all still in our pjs under the quilt on the sofa, and Peppa is on the telly. We may not move far from here today :)

iltmi I didn't get to hold s til recovery either so I like the idea of what you just said. S seems better today. Starting to scab.

Pressed too soon.

kitty I hope S in on the mend now, we had two really awful days with T and then he seemed to improve so I hope it is the same for you!

Fizz - Happy Anniversary! It was our 4th back in October.

My EMCS with DS1 was pretty awful, I was so drugged I couldn't feed him for ages and we had all kinds of issues getting BF established, but then I EBF and fed him until he was 2. I still have massive guilt about the fact that I couldn't birth him naturally despite 36 hours of trying!
But my ELCS with T was completely different. Calm, I was in control, and DH had skin to skin with T immediately while I was stitched up and then T was tucked into bed next to me while we were wheeled to recovery. The midwives helped me strip off immediately and he was latched on and feeding within 40 minutes of being born. No drugs to cloud my memories and it made me realise how much of what happened with DS1 really wasn't my fault.
It was very cathartic and helped me heal from the first time around.

Oh I forgot pizza - she loves pizza !
We've had fish & chips too but she hasn't managed the fish very well, a bit slippery i think.

Had her hips checked this morning, all fine there - so no more appts for 6 months when we go back to check on her eyes. What with my nearly broken foot that's 3 trips to the hosp in 2 weeks, not my fave place at all so happy to see the back of it!

Ali - sorry you're ill but a duvet day sounds heavenly :)

ILTMIMI I'm not entirely sure about the crucifix pose TBH, I thought it was normal, but I'm beginning to realise it wasn't. I had 2 BP cuffs on my upper arms, which meant I couldn't have folded my arms over even if I wanted too. They were very belts an braces about everything because of my high BMI. Even though I'd had no problems relating to that at all. Just my SPD. Does anyone know if they give everyone the drug that keeps your BP up when you have an epidural/spinal. I had it, but I didn't have the reaction they were expecting and my BP shot through the roof. In fact it didn't return to normal until I got to hold B and I actually sat and watched the monitor tick down as I held him. Hmm, I thought I was ok about my CS, but the more I think about it, the more I realise I feel a bit sad about it all. Not because I had a CS, but the fact I went in there not knowing what they were doing to me or what was "normal" because my CMW refused to talk us through a CS because it was a negative thought. It turned out the 5 of the 10 of us in our AN group had CSs, so maybe it should have been covered in more detail. My CS, although logged as a EMCS, was actually more like a ELCS as they made the decision the day before after the induction failed. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this TBH. Maybe I'll just have a think about it and come back later.

Fizz I think it is really normal to get angry about things like this after the fact, and it definitely took me some time to process what had happened with DS1.

I should have gone and talked it through with someone at the hospital much sooner than I did. I was pregnant with T before it was all talked about as part of deciding what to do in terms of having T, and I felt so much better once I had talked it through with the Ob. who did my EMCS and asked loads of questions - so much better that I asked him to do my section with T too once that was the route I had decided to go down :)

Another one here who is sorry you are ill Ali but the duvet,pj's and watching the tv sounds lush!

Baby I does nip M, but I don't think that is the problem. The biting has always happened at pre school and he does it in the heat of the moment because he can't articulate in any other way how he is feeling. However, today he was fine. Hooray! No biting. He had two marshmallows after his lunch for being so good. Bribery and rewards of the sweet variety always work with him. Before I was a parent I swore that bribery with food would never happen. Ha ha ha. The reason parents use it is because it works!

I don't know about the BP drug Fizz,maybe ask on here, there a few MW's around. Although probably each Trust has a different procedure. I got a copy of my birth notes for ds1 a few months after he was born and sobbed over them when I first read them.

Much like you, it's not the fact so much that I had a section, although I did have some grief over 'not doing it properly'. It was more the way I was treated by the staff and not knowing what was happening and why. DH also gets very cross about our experience. Probably because he is the one who is supposed to protect us and he felt like he couldn't.

It's good to hear of Ali's positive ELCS too. It shows that another section can also put ghosts to rest.

I think I might have mastitis actually, feeling ropier as the day goes on, sore boob, temperature. :(:(

And T has only napped for 20 minutes since 7am, and is currently bouncing around the living room. He has taken to following me around, climbing my leg and then giving me a nip on the back of the calf. Not fun, but he thinks it is hysterical.

Hello people! Lovely new thread title, good work Frakk. Just marking my place and saying an enormous congrats to you kitty. How exciting! More babies! I can live vicariously. No more babies in this house, 2 is all I can cope with for now.

Sympathies to the pox households, I am dreading when chicken pox lands in our house, feel like it's coming though as there's plenty around at the moment. S doesn't sleep through still so no doubt she will crack that then get a bout of chicken pox to mess it all up .

I've been reading but haven't posted in ages I don't think. I've been settling DS1 into preschool and it has been a total stress. ILTMIMI , another biter here, he bit someone on the first day of preschool. My god, I have never been more embarressed in my life. Felt sick driving to pick him up when they called to say he had chomped down on some poor little kid. Thankfully, he only bit the once and after a gazillion reward schemes and a CBeebies ban for the past 5 weeks he has finally cracked it and has been good as gold all this week. My nerves couldn't take much more so I'm so glad he has finally worked out that donking children over the head is not the answer to solving sharing problems.

Ramble, ramble, ramble. Will try and use my preschool free time now to do more MNing rather than pace nervously with my phone in hand.

And again for Kitty ... eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee excited squealing!