July 2010: Tantrums R Us

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Here you go! Sorry for crappy title. My one chance in the limelight and I can't think of anything good and I have to go and collect J from nursery right now...

Yeah chul the head above water with 2 under 2 thing sounds familiar. I remember thinking that the first 3 months were just about survival, not much else (and I didn't have you guys!) From 3-6 I remember it was starting to feel like chinks of real life were coming in and then after 6 months it felt 'normal' again.

Haha wss, you could be right there. He does kinda wear them in an ironic way but I'm not sure everyone would see that ;)

vik the dvd is best. Quick and easy to watch. Have a look on ebay for a used one. I'll see if I can find our copy tho I fear I've lent it to someone.

Re sleep associations. I think all of that goes out of the window with colicy babies. Personally, I think you just need to give them what they need to feel 'normal'. Both of mine have been shit sleepers but we didn't need to do any of the 5Ss with A as she didn't have colic and was a reasonable sleeper til teething. You can break sleep associations easily enough too imo, I'm sure we could with ours but we're too soft and not that bothered really.

Definitely agree with the treading water feeling! Still going on here at the moment, and I don't even have the excuse of a newborn.

They finally came out to fix the leaking gas pipe under my lounge yesterday...got to the point of reconnecting it up to my gas fire and then condemned my gas fire and the chimney. So we've just paid to have a gas pipe laid we now can't use, as we can't afford to get all the other stuff sorted out too. So looks like we'll be ripping it out and getting a cheapy electric fire, just so we can try and sell the house.

And you remember how I mentioned health wise everything was fine? Got the dreaded call(s) from nursery yesterday. First that M was running a temperature and they wanted emailed consent to Calpol her. Next to say the Calpol wasn't working, her temperature was heading for 40 and she was getting increasingly lethargic.

One emergency flee from work (will be making back the time today...) and doctor's appointment, her temp was only just over 37 and she was rampaging round the surgery. She was a little unsettled overnight, but this morning her temperature was fine and she was busy collecting random items from around the lounge and putting them in my work bag. Almost came to work with an empty plastic bottle and a wooden horse.

I'm in the babygrows when tiny camp. Though if M and I were going out somewhere more public than getting DH from work, I did start trying to get her dressed from about 12 weeks. She didn't get reliably dressed in 'clothes' every morning until about 5 months or so.

Like cords, M has a lovely green pair. Dislike leggings on boys. Waitrose food is good, I sometimes get it from Ocado. Though normally their essentials range as I can't afford the really tasty stuff. I do drool over the range of mozzerellas though... Maybe I'll splash out on a really good one for my birthday. :)

spirael I love the sound of "splashing out on mozzarella" for your birthday

viks I'm with cake on the sleep associations tbh, do what you need to get through and work on sorting stuff out later. I fed both of mine to sleep for a long time cos it worked for us and made things a bit more bearable. If F likes the swing, use it!

cakes 19 months?? add a few more months to that I bought it the day of my 20 week scan! I do love George im not ashamed...He reminds me of me when I was little, short legs, round belly, massive nose, love of pirates and has tantrums at the drop of a hat!
Have you tried Sainsburys? their deli is nice.
Ive just been to Asda and spent £70 on 2 bags of stuff for dh over weekend, and some clothes and 2 books for my brothers birthday!including a character top he will love

Got a marbled cake in the oven for dh and L for weekend and doing one for my sister then we are going sledging, been out for breakfast and snow elsewhere is melting but here it isnt budging!

Almost jelous of the snow, we had a tiny sprinkling here but its all gone now. The kids have been playing tag team today and at some points even ganged up on me!! and now D has decided that he doesnt want dinner, hes had it a thousand times so why now is he treating it like its poison?? OK hes eating it with his hands, im pretending not to look, i get really annoyed when he doesnt eat, apart from it being a giant waist of .....................oh for fucks sake dh has just waided in thinking he was helping and now D isnt eating it at all because hes crying!!!!!! typical example of treading on toes! .............giant waist of food its got to be a factor in his night time waking im sure.
How does everyone else deal with not eating? I know i should just ignore it and perhaps offer him something else later on but its mighty difficult!

Ok quick question - pil weirdness has begun or am I being over-sensitive?

Fil was trimming some overhanging branches in the garden (which was very kind of him), anyway later on I notice this plant has appeared that wasn't there before, it's like a fern-y thing, not a weed, neither dh nor I have planted it. Some of said fern-y things grow huge over here and i don't' want it nicking all the nutritents from the soil that the plant next to it (which is struggling) needs. Neither mil or fil have said anything about it but it was definitely not there yesterday and now it is!

My question - is it weird to plant something in someone else's garden without asking/checking with them first ?

Yes. It's weird

HTH

Vik I know you have already been recommended a book for F by Cake, but I would really recommend you take a look at Toddler Taming by Dr Christopher Green for D. It would really hep you assess what is normal for toddler behaviour and how to handle what you're not happy about

7 hours tsc oh god thats awfull, how were the children? and how is F generally?
We really have to get some help, D was awake from about 12 untill around 4.30!!!! seriously. Just aake and chatting/banging/shouting etc etc DH went in three times to settle him and i went in twice where i descovered a dirty nappy on two occasions, it sems he had a bad tummy, but that doesnt really explain the waking as its been going on for so long. DH and I were both up in the living room at 4am he had F while i went to try and sort D. Its a living hell and IF we come through the other end we wont forget it in a hurry and we certainly wont look back and laugh. D is up for the day at 6.30 dispite having hardly any sleep, what do we do?? genuine question now, is there any proper help out there? there has to be something. After a fraught evening with F i think we are seriously going to loose the plot.
Sorry its all about me, i'll try and be a little less selfe indulged next time.

Doesn't time fly when you're having fun tsc

Sorry bout your bad night vik :(

Mine was bad enough. I finally got W to sleep about 12.10am (twice tried to settle him in his room then ended up having to bring him downstairs) and then about half an hour later E got up. I nearly hit the fucking roof. And then he got up for the day at 6.45am. I told him the sun hadn't come up so he went back into his bedroom, pulled the step out and climbed up to his gro clock. He then came running through, pleased as punch saying it is mam, I just changed the star to a sun Dh brought him down for a while and then got W up at 8am then I got up at 8.15am. I've had no more sleep for it but I'm grateful for the 'break' from them iyswim?

Needle had her little girl yesterday :)

Pic on fb! Congratulations needle!

viks have you asked at your local children's centre? (if you have one) one of the ones near us has a sleep clinic you can go to and they'll try and help you sort stuff out. wrt to fussiness, S isn't eating properly at the moment and he definitely wakes up if he's hungry so I plop him at the table with us and whatever he's going to refuse and once we're all finished I move him into the living room and spoonfeed him weetabix while he's distracted by Waybuloo. Not ideal but it's the only way he'll eat at the mo. DH reminded me that L went through a very similar phase too.

S was up 3 at 1am, 3.30 and then up for the day at 5am. I got up with him and he was retching over and over and over but nothing came out, he was up to 39.8 and calpol took over an hour to make any difference but eventually he seemed to pick up a bit. We were both knackered that we thought we'd go out for breakfast to cheer us up. DH had just got our breakfast to the table when S threw up all over himself/me/chair/floor...don't know why we bothered.

...and L has conjunctivitis...

Are you all at CP without me or summat?

Wish i was at bloody cp!! instead im bouncing a bouncer with my foot and have been for over an hour. This baby has mostly been awake since 5ish, poor poor boy. How are u feeling?

Im not at CP! Although I have just downloaded a period tracker app which is so much fun!

Not at CP!

But I have been out. With adults. And alcohol.

Night night :)

I went out twice this weekend mlisc . Can't remember the last time I did that.

Drinks in city centre, about 8 of us, Fri night. Watching a film in a park with 2 friends and 2 bottles of wine Sat night.

I fricking hate my life right now. Why I didn't turf DH out of bed instead of getting up myself I don't know, I suppose cos then he'd be miserable all day.

viks hope you got some sleep last night!

chu, I know exactly what u mean, I'd so much rather do it myself than deal with them miserable all day. A much better night here, I only heard d twice but I'm sure dh will tell me w different story. I have just put f back down from only his second feed so whilst d is still quiet I'm going for a snuggle with dh! Come on babies, give mom and dad some 'time'!
Hope ur not feeling too shitty chu, how many weeks is it now?

vik sorry it's so hard at the mo, I have no great advice I'm afraid other than - rest whenever you can during the day, you will really need to. Things got a lot better at about 4-5 months with G, her reflux started to improve then and A also went to pre-school so I got a bit of time 3 days a week with just one. It's not forever - seriously just get as much rest as you can.

Sil and bil have just gone to the airport, very they have gone.

Fil's weird words of wisdom yesterday - sil had bought A some chocolates and fil pointed to them and said "If you eat those all the time you'll get diabetes! Costs the NHS millions you know!". I'm all for healthy eating messages but really....is there an eye roll emoticon?

Evening all, just checking in, sorry you all had bad nights, If itsany consolation for me being in a hotel without a toddler to wake me up, I heard a noise at 4.50am and jumoed out of bed thinking it was L and headbutted the wall!
Show was amazing....and and AND I went to needles amazing Tea house and held her 1 day old teeny tiny baby! she looks amazingly well, those who can do a meet in London, we need to go there the tea, the cakes= A.MAZ.ING- She gave birth in around an hour with no mw...well her husband was the midwife!

IMFG that's amazing re needles, an hour and no mw! How come? I hope she's taking it easy! What show did u see Memphis and where did u shop?
Chu, feeling any better today, what did u all get up to?
Mylife, did u have a better night last night?
We have had a nice day and a great evening, f has slept since 7.30 ish! Fanblimintastic! We watched a film and drank wine! Yay! Fingers crossed for a good night for all. X

Oh my god can't believe needle didn't have a mw! So nice of you to go and see her! glad you enjoyed the show and that is just hilarious about headbutting the wall!!
Vik so glad you've had a nice evening. God knows you need it. Fingers crossed for the night ahead!
Chul things sound really grim there too. How is everything now.
God it feels shit tl be just offering sympathy to everyone. Wish I could just magic everything better for us all!