July 2010: Tantrums R Us

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Here you go! Sorry for crappy title. My one chance in the limelight and I can't think of anything good and I have to go and collect J from nursery right now...

Bloody hell what awful stories of how you were / family was treated!

I made a cake today. It took me fucking ages because the kids were being a nightmare demanding my attention and it's fucking burnt on the bottom This is why I don't. I cooked a lovely szechwan (sp?) chinese dish tonight, delicious. But I can't bake for toffee :(

Memphis aww poor L :( yes I think you should demand some more help but I'm not sure that the emergency walk in clinic will be able to do much more than treat him for his current symptoms but your doctor should most definently be referring him, I would think, if he is as bad as he is.

dh I was a very young looking 20 when I became pregnant with D and I have never had a problem with anyone treating me badly, but then I don't get subtle hints so unless someone came right out and said something then I wouldn't see it. People have said I look too young to be a mum but then I've always taken that as a compliment but then maybe it is not ment as one but the stories of how you were treated tsc and your sister memphis is just horrible

Aw memph :(

A walk in clinic won't/can't authorise/request intolerance testing. It has to be your GP. Ds2 was under a paediatric gastroenterologist - I would demand a referral from your GP to one. They are best place to assess him.

The walk in clinic is a normal docs too just not my doc, they were the ones who demaded saples before as I was sick of being fobbed off, either way I will not go back to our surgery, the mw when he was tiny, the hv at every check and numerous docs have said its clear he is intolerant to something but surgery policy is they will not refer before 2, I will go to wlk in, and then get a new docs near new house and speak to the

wooohoooo, i'm back! hope you're all well and the new year is treating you nicely.

will need to read back and catch up properly later. about to have a takeaway curry which i'm really looking forward to after a week of cooking every day on hols (including the evening we stopped at MILs) - not that i mind cooking, just nice to have a change from the stuff i make.

and thanks for the tip-off mlic as to where to find you all

Godddddddddddddddd!!!!! I feel like crying and screaming and punching the wall. I've been trying to get D to sleep for an hour. He's just lying there with his fucking eyes open. I've tried leaving him before I do something I seriously regret and he comes straight out crying.

Ive sent dh in there so he can see how it feels. He just seems annoyed I've torn him away from his crappy Xbox.

tsc. Tell him you deal with it all day it's his turn. What do you do while he's playing on the x box all the time? Does he have his own tv for it or is it on the main tv? That would do my head in.

Can he reach the door handle? I just used to shut ds1 in his room as he couldn't get out

Welcome back cake :)

Memph, asking for a referral for intolerance testing is completely different to asking for a referral to a consultant paediatrician. Trust me, even though ds2 turned out not to have an intolerance (probably...maybe...although I'll probably always wonder...) seeing a consultant is the first step.

Although the first thing they'll ask you do to anyway is an exclusion diet. Have you tried cutting out dairy completely to see how he reacts to that?

And just for you memph - I haven't done any exercise since 2nd Jan, my 'crisps ban' folded on 3rd Jan and I am currently drinking the second half of the bottle of red I opened last night. After eating 3/4 bag of Walkers Sensations plus dip. I had four bags of crisps yesterday

I am, officially, shit. I think I have a crisp ishooo

dh i feel really bad for you, i know how frustrating they can be, i nearly lost it today with d and his whining and his lying on the floor tantruming! what the hell do you do about it all, regarding ur D, all i know to say is to keep putting him back and leving he room. It sucks for you because i hink they are still slightly too young to understand really, they know what they are doing is wrong but dont know why or why even they are doing it. I had to tell D off today as he was trying to sit on my lap and i had F and he was squashing him and i couldn't move quick enough, i felt very bad but he has to know he cant do that, im finding D's behavour very challenging, how does everyone else deal with tantrums and general bad behavour?

leving he room!! hink!! can you tell im typing with a baby on my lap!!

I am sensing that a lot of you are just entering the tantrum phase with you LOs and all I can say is I have been dealing with it for MONTHS! He has a real temper, I have honestly never seen anything like it.

He knows if he goes off on one I will put him in his cot (so he if safe but contained) and close the door. So now if I'm in the house I just have to say 'Do you want to go to bed?' and he says no and calms down. It works for 10 minutes anyway If we're out of the house though I just have to do what I have to do. Like he didn't want to leave my friend's house this morning so I just had to carry him kicking and screaming to the car and bend him in half to get him into his car seat. It's horrible but what else can you do?

He's just started screaming so I'd better go. Bottom molar is about to break. Vik I'm so jealous D has all his teeth!!!

Hiya all

Did you have a nice trip cake?

dythlan not sure if it will help but we've done a lot of work on aspergers I could get you some stuff if you want?

dh I wasn't treated differently for being a young mum but that was maybe because at the time there were loads of teenage mums so I may have seemed old :S. Hate when R makes a song and dance about sleep.

milsc sorry about yesterday on fb it. My status was directed at a stupid woman who's been going on about football in every post, nothing wrong with that but its very bigoted so she got the chop.

tsc I'm doing bottle weaning with R and she's got such a temper she threw her plastic shopping trolley at the wall twice. I put her out the room to calm down.

memphis for L's bottom have you tried egg whites it will soothe it for him and create a barrier. Use it at every nappy change. Has he had a lot of the same thing recently you could pin point the runs to?

Good to see you've settled into a routine trudy R eats finger food and things Well but not great with a spoon.

chulita you poor thing, how long till your new arrival?

viks R goes mad if any off her brothers sit near me or for that matter anyone D probably feels the same with F. We just keep moving her away and saying no! Don't want her doing it in nursery :). How you feeling?

Well did a test today and BFN so wss you owe me a fiver :D will stop my pill when af arrives or the end of the month depending on what comes first.

Sorry I went to bed at half 9 I was shattered. Dh uses the main tv for his Xbox and I sit on the sofa on mn. It's honestly fine if there's nothing on tv I want to watch which there hasn't been recently.

I did shut D in the room at one point, he screamed for a bit then went quiet but obv couldn't see him and opening the door would wake him if by some miracle he had gone to sleep but dh wanted to make sure he was ok. He was just sitting up in bed not making any noise. That's the thing it's not like he's screaming when I'm in there, he just lies there quietly but for aaaaages so it's not like he's in pain or anything.

He slept til 1 then 4ish and up for the day at the usual 7 so he lost about an hours sleep. He's quite cranky this morning what a surprise.

On top of it all still dealing with period pains which wont go away, hoping its the last day today.

dh im in utter shock at how selfish your dh is, I would sell the xbox while he is at work, or unplug it under his nose and fling it out of the window, no chance in hell would I let dh play take over our living room!
mlic I cant be refered from the walk in as its a different area to us now we have moved, the nhs trust here advice against taking away dairy as they told me not to give soya as it will stunt his growth? thats why they dont refer til 2 when they dont need glasses of milk, find this strange myself, I soke to my vegan friend but she still breatfeeds and her older child has oatand rice milk but she said not to give it till over 2 cakes what do you give F and A? I think my areas surgerys is strange, they wouldnt let my friend have a home birth so she had to get a Doula as they wouldnt support her.
stac he has a really varied diet this flares up every week or so, but its so acidy.

No tantrums here, L still hates his bum being changed but now it is so painful for him I can understand why, this is the only real time he cries other than when his dad goes out of sight. When he gets cranky I say do you want to go to bed? and he goes upstairs!

The dog has gone to daycare, L in bed and dh has gone to his training, house is so quiet! Spoke to dad, he is very poorly today :(
We spoke about my birthday last night and I honestly expected to be getting an engagement ring, I was bloody wrong! damn tight git, I wanted diamonds!

mlic I have been really good, cut out everything remotely naughty and excercised for 45 mins a day and lost .....8 pound in one week! im always bloody hungry though

Really? Oh I never thought it was that bad. He always asks me if it's ok, there's no point is watching tv if there's nothing on either of us like just for the sake of 'sharing'

I'm happy on mn and he's happy on there. If there's something on tv I say I want to watch it now and turns it off, that's not really selfish is it?

memphis what are you getting for your birthday then?

dh it may just be me but a living room is a family room not a games room, and you said he looked annoyed he had to leave it to look after D, people are different I suppose.
In regards to my birthday, the holiday is my birthday present! I am a spoilt brat, always will be and proud to be, we are getting married in 2 years and he said isnt that enough? I said I wanted to be engaged for a couple of years beforehand, it actually turned into a row, then he said we class ourselves as married anyway, but I want L to be the same name as me, even if I change his name to mine (this is when he blew his top)

DH my DH uses our tv for his xboxing and like you I either mn or make crafty stuff, it doesn't bother me, if I wanted to watch something he'd turn it off and if I've been up and down a few times with the DC he'll get up deal with it.
Re sleeping, it really does get better eventually. DH was on nights this week and one night I literally didn't sit down for longer than 35 mins the whole evening because of S screaming in bed - that continued all night too and since they're in the same room I had to get up quick before he woke L. At one point I cuddled him for 1hr45mins solid because he just wouldn't sleep and screamed everytime I put him down. I was about ready to explode! (we don't have a comfy chair in their room cos there's no space so I was perched on a stool and my back was so stiff)

I'm with mlisc on the tantruming, both of mine are Black Belt Tantrumers. I regularly have to make S touch his head with his toes just to be able to get him in the car/buggy, he collapses on the floor wailing at the drop of a hat, on a really good day I can have them both tantruming before we've got through breakfast (like yesterday...)

stac I've got 2 months to go. Can't fricking wait. I hate being pg, always have and reckon I always will. Hate, hate, hate, hate spd/sinusitis/indigestion/backache/anaemia and getting bigger - just realised my rings are going to have to come off or they'll embed themselves forever, I hate not wearing my rings!

I'm off before you all turn off the screens to avoid reading any more of my whinging

(nice to have you back cake )

I'm with memph. There's no way in hell I would 'let' dh play on his computer in the living room. There is never 'nothing to watch' for me though - I record lots on the V+ and have a lovefilm account which allows up to 3 dvds at any one time. So there is always something on. DH has a large tv in his office/the dining room though so he can play in there to his heart's content.

Nice one on the weight loss memph! That's excellent!

mlic I say 'let' but dh wouldnt even think about playing games when we are here as a family so I have never actually had to 'tell'him

Im bloody starving! Iwas going to make the butternut squash tagine that mlic suggested but I left the veg at work, mum is dropping it off tonight but will be too late for tonights tea, really want a chinese but must stay strong and have steamed fish and veg!