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July 2010: Tantrums R Us

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Woodlands · 03/01/2012 13:01

Here you go! Sorry for crappy title. My one chance in the limelight and I can't think of anything good and I have to go and collect J from nursery right now...

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MyLifeIsStillChaotic · 17/01/2012 17:23

They demolished the crackers and cheese, so it's not like they were just not hungry Angry

Chulita · 17/01/2012 18:12

Same here Angry S spat out his beef casserole/jacket spud then zoned out whilst watcing Cbeebies and had 2 weetabix shovelled down him. At least L ate tonight, makes a change.

MyLifeIsStillChaotic · 17/01/2012 20:04

Needle inspired me to bake my own bread via her blog a little while ago - so I did it today. I really can't get my head around kneading (it kept sticking to my hands and the worktop and I couldn't 'work' it properly) but baked it anyway...and it was delicious! I have been really missing proper sandwich bread, breadmaker bread just doesn't cut it (excuse the pun Wink) Anyway - yum. Will practise and get it perfect now!

I'm really struggling with ds1 atm :( He seems what, in a teenage girl could be described as hormonal Confused Screaming and shouting one minute and bursting into tears at other times; a complete over-reaction. Tis bizarre. He's not sleeping well - keeps saying he doesn't want to be on his own. Keeps telling me he's scared. He's started crying when I leave him at preschool (I left in tears this morning as the teacher had to prize him off me Sad)

It's tough :(

memphis83 · 17/01/2012 21:23

mlic has your breadmaker got a program where you can just chuck it in for the kneading process then tak it out and bake it?
could E be over tired or just getting to grips with school? my little brother has taken weeks to get used to school, very grumpy and going bed at 6 as he is that tired!?

L has been really out of sorts today, very whiney which isnt like him and mum said maybe still getting over yesterday as he has never been that upset before.ever. he wanted to go bed at 5! dragged himm out to half 6 but he was upsetby this point.
my friend came and hour late then my other friend came at 3, she wasnt ill as I thought,she had a few days where she was dizzy and sicky feeling she thinks due to stress at work so was nice to have her here now she feels ok, she stayed for tea and left an hour ago.
Seeing my friend at hers in the morning then in the afternoon a friend is visiting with her girl, check me out this week we are really social butterflies this week! weirdly she asked if she should bring wine? at lunch when we have kids?! I though this was odd but think its the norm for her!

MyLifeIsStillChaotic · 17/01/2012 21:41

I'd have said yes Grin

I think it is all adjustment yes. It's hard enough to get him to sleep at normal time though as he's resisting bedtime badly. And then getting up early saying he doesn't want to be on his own. In some ways I think they should share. He got in W's cot this afternoon and was saying 'put W in mammy' so I did, then he said 'we're going to sleep now, close the door'

I have a busy day tomorrow but that's it! My social life has gone dramatically downhill since ds1's started school!

Is anyone watching 15 kids and counting? Wow. Just wow.

CakeandRoses · 17/01/2012 22:57

oh mlic, that must be tough re ds1 but i'm sure you're right and it is just him adjusting and being tired. F gets really 'hormonal' with change too - he was a horror on holiday for instance. hopefully your boy will settle down again soon.

their dinner sounded bloody yum. can't believe they didn't eat it!

well remembered re the fruit in savoury! i've also liked the idea of caponata but never got round to trying it, even when we were in sicily.

memph that is fucking awful re your mil leaving L out Sad hopefully they'll grow up a bit if it comes to it.

how did your dad's appt go?

chul/mlic i haven't hoovered in years. seriously i'm awful - i ALWAYS leave it for the cleaner even when i know it needs doing in between sometimes.

are you all organised re stuff like selling old children's clothes or whatever, finances, filing bills/receipts, painting and small diy projects? it's also that kind of crap that i've got really behind on and is bugging me. i def need to learn not to sweat the small stuff.

oh and ticked another task off my list today and had my first eye test in about a decade and... i need glasses for driving. so i now have the new task of finding a pair which don't make me look like su pollard and/or 50 years old.

had a call from a headhunter today and i spoke to him even tho i knew i wouldn't go for it as it was full-time. was just nice to pretend i was still Ms Career again for 20 minutes. very sad eh?

felt quite pissed off afterwards realising how limited my job options are now with the DCs but then having spoken to dh about it, he said that there's always hard choices to be made according to what you want/what compromises you'll make which is true, i guess.

A's a teething maniac and wouldn't go down earlier so ended up bringing her down. she's now asleep on the sofa.

viksam · 18/01/2012 01:54

cake I totally know how you feel re the jobs and the supposed small stuff. The small stuff is sometimes what makes the world go around though imo. We have only just put a load of stuff on ebay that we sorted ages ago and two days ago i took 6 bags of books to charity, i hated getting rid of my books but i had a kindle for xmas so really apart from the ones i love its just not worth keeping them. Re decorating, omg the whole house needs doing!! And im with you on the limitations of DC's and work, I have always enjoyed work and its been an important part of my life and to realize that unless i stay with the same company it will be very hard to find emplayment else where in depressing. we have been talking about moving back to the midlands due to support with the children and to be closer to family again but i would have to leave my job as would dh and moving is such a lot of moneyright now and if we sold the house we would be lucky so all in all its probably not worth the hassle. Re cleaning, i defo do too much but dh vaccuumed last so basically just the middle of each room got done, no furniture moved etc but thats the way it is for a while, id rather half a job get done than non at all.
Ita 1.50am cang get any more milk down or wind up so im off back to bed and fingers crossed he will settle! D is desturbed again tonight, it breaks my heart that hes bothered because of F..........need to discudd next time!!

Chulita · 18/01/2012 08:00

mlisc I like proper shaped loaves too so I quite often do a dough setting in the machine and then bake it in the oven. I've got a good bread book with a section on kneading that's really good, we used to make all our bread by hand pre-children but it's the time thing now, I don't want to be stood there for 10-15mins kneading the stuff!
You might just have to give ds1 time to settle, it is a huge adjustment. I'm finding L is sleeping in til gone 7 since starting nursery (despite S's best attempts to wake her).

memphis I really hope you can hammer home the importance of not feeding L any gluten if it turns out to be that, and that they realise he's not being difficult, must really piss you off.

cake I suppose that's where I'm 'lucky' in a sense, I only ever had jobs, never a career so I've not had that to go back to/regret leaving. I do think that unless you're prepared to put dc in full-time nursery, a couple can't both have a career. I'm firmly of the opinion though that once children have grown up you'll have decades to regret being at work instead of with them whereas not many people lie on their death-bed wishing they'd spent more time in the office/earned more money/got promoted higher etc.

Chulita · 18/01/2012 08:03

viks I don't know how you worked whilst pg, I know I've said it before but I don't know how you did it! last night I was so tired by 5pm I felt sick and shaky. DH didn't finish work til 7.30, he basically walked in the door, I pointed out his tea and went to bed. And pleeeeeeease stop posting at silly hours in the morning, I don't want to be reminded of what's to come! Grin

DesperateHousewife21 · 18/01/2012 08:20

mlisc maybe its because of starting pre school it's a huge change, hope things settle down for you though.

D didn't have a nap yesterday and he was awful at bedtime. Well he went down ok, was asleep within 10 mins but he then woke 40 mins later so 8:20 and would not go back to sleep unless I was practically in bed with him. I flipped in the end and said fine I'll go to bed at bloody 9pm so he'll go to sleep otherwise he'd be awful today. Maybe he isn't ready for his own bed yet. Assuming I get preg this month we've got til oct to sort this out.
They go through a sleep regression at this age don't they? I think it's separation anxiety because he's absolutely fine in bed with me.

memphis83 · 18/01/2012 08:38

cakes I dont file bills, never have, I pay them and then bin it after, drives dh mad a he has everything in marked boxes of his,I just have a file box with all my car and bike stuff in! we are about to start the decorating again, although the paper I want for living room has to be ordered so im waiting til after London to thinkk about that and I wanted a rich navy for bedroom and cannot find anything I like! Selling clothes- I did a few carboots last year, then I did a final one before we moved and anything left I gave to charity, he hasnt grown since then!
My dad was ok we find out results tomorrow.
It isnt just MIL that moans about L its all his family, his sis had L the day we movwed and she still moans that he filled a few nappies and stank her house out!
chulita hope your feeling less shaky as after a sleep, If the IL's even said just once wont hurt about gluten foods I will start harping on about causing his even more problems and if they did they wouldnt see L again, they will not push my rules to the side! if he is coeliac one good thing is they wont be able to take him maccy D's, MIL has beengoing on about taking him since he was 6 months!
Waiting for dog to be taken to day care and then off out, L wont come downstairs he is sitting behind the gate playing with cars and when I go to get him he runs off!

memphis83 · 18/01/2012 08:39

dh dont let him back in your bed, youve done so well, you need a routine way before the baby arrives or he will think you replacing him with the new one.

DesperateHousewife21 · 18/01/2012 09:00

He doesn't go back to sleep in his bed though, he just cries. I'd have to sit in his room all night for him to sleep there.

CakeandRoses · 18/01/2012 09:55

is it the rug doctor that you guys recommended before?

MyLifeIsStillChaotic · 18/01/2012 10:06

Just lost a long post Angry And it's still loading really slowly so I aint re-writing it

viksam · 18/01/2012 14:20

Sorry chu| i will try not to post at stupid O'clock again!! Just eat the last banana muffin from my first batch, they were a bit gloopy, why would that be? D didnt like them! so i will make some more and put slightly more sugar in them cos me and dh liked them loads!! Re work, dont forget i only had D, you have two and both at demanding ages and both waking at night and your coping with SPD as well, you have a lot more on your plate than i did, having said that i totally remember being stupidly tired so that i felt sick and shakey too, i hope your eating properly and keeping your blood sugar up. Have i missed one of your posts re cs? Have they given you a date then?
mylife hows E today and how was his night last night. I was mega upset yesterday as D was unhappy at the cm all day apparently, i knew i wouldnt cope well if he was bothered but i did a stupid thing, i brought 'guess how much i love you' and i read it to him last night and MAN did i blart when i came down from putting him to bed, i just wish there was a way of telling him that my feelings havent changed one bit for him, its so hard seeing him struggling with his feelings.
DH D is no where near ready for a bed, i dont think he would understand what to do with himself if he could get out and i defo think it would effect his sleep, its a long time till october and lots can happen, i wouldnt worry about it too much, just do what you think is right for him now.
memphis im off to brum tomorrow but i just wanted to say i will be thinking of you tomorrow with your dads results, wishing you luck doesnt seem the right thing to say, i just hope its good news. When do you get L's results?
I have been pretending DH isnt here today just to see how i cope alone through lunch and D's nap etc, it was a bit fraught but fine, i HAVE to cope dont i so may as well just get on with it as best as i can. Got F weighed yesterday, hes 8lb 4oz! I think thats loads so soon but hes still on the 25th centile so cant be that much. I have been worried that we are over feeding him but the HV seems to think its fine, hes very very windy though, i swear dh was blaming him for all the jam tarts but no they are coming from him and they are proper man sized trumps, god knows how he holds that much wind!! Poor boy!

Chulita · 18/01/2012 14:59

I don't know why they turned out gloopy viks Confused maybe the size of the bananas? Shame D didn't like them, you never know what they're going to eat.
I got a date back in about September time so the countdown started a long time ago! I've started not being able to sleep at night so even though the dc slept through last night I was awake off and on all night and at one point tweaked 3 muscles just rolling over. My pelvis cracked so loudly on one roll that DH woke up Blush Don't worry, I'm eating for 8 at the mo!
Fwiw it took L about 3 months, maybe a little more to settle in with S but she doesn't remember a time without him now. It was hard seeing her struggle to adjust but they're great friends and it was the best thing we did giving her a sibling.

mlic meant to say earlier that I love love love having our 2 in the same room. There was one time when I wished they weren't, S was ill and wouldn't stop crying and I just wanted to close the door on him and go back to bed but obviously couldn't. S still wakes up if L starts chattering but L will sleep through a heck of a lot of screaming from S, she surprises me!

memphis83 · 18/01/2012 16:39

mlic if we have another one they will share a room, I like having a spare too much!
cakes the rug doctor all the way!
viks have a good time in Brum! gets L's results hopefully on Monday he is constipated to high heaven at the moment so it wont be long til we have a few days of shitting all over the house!
chul ouch re the cracking pelvis! not long now! who will have the DC's when you go in? are your family coming to stay?

Been to my friends house this morning her kid is the same age as L and he is a little shit, I would never ever let L be so awful she just kept saying no no no over and over, if he is spiteful I really do tell him what he has done is wrong and remove him from situation, but her boy throws and hits and takes all the toys from L even if he just puts it down after, I know its toddler behaviour but she lets him get away with murder, what got me is he full on smacked L across the face, I saw red and told her to tell him off as it left a mark!
Then this afternoon my friends daughter came over who is over 2 and they played lovely, dancing together and sharing, I nearly canceled after bully boy this morning but im so glad I didnt!
DH away tonight I have bought a quorn lasagne for tea as I wanted pasta and could be bothered to make anything for me

DesperateHousewife21 · 18/01/2012 16:57

memphis I hate it when mums ignore obv bad behaviour by their dcs. It's like if they ignore it it never happened. Their kids will grow up thinking that behaviour is fine and that's where trouble starts. Did she tell him off when you said about it?

EmsieRo · 18/01/2012 17:02

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memphis83 · 18/01/2012 17:03

Yes but she just stood in front of him and said nooooooo naaaaughty and then he shreiked at her and walked off, Its inevitable it happens with kidsw together but it happened over and over then a fuill on smack in the face. She said its because whatever he has his older sister takes it off him and I said she is old enough to know about sharing and if she didnt share with her brother I would personally punish her! (shes a brat I cant stand either!) I feel bad as we are the only 2 who meet up from our support group, she has no friends what so ever as she moved to this country to marry and she had to stop being friends with her closest friends to marry him (different religions) so she has no one but her kids are naughty

MyLifeIsStillChaotic · 18/01/2012 17:30

Hi EmsieRo! Welcome back! Good luck with catching up, we're a right bunch of gobshites so it'll take a while Wink

Chul I think when W is older (and won't fall out of a bed) he will have the option of sleeping in E's room if they want that, but still have their own rooms iyswim? But at the moment it would mean re-jigging the bedrooms/beds again if I was to put them in the same room. E would sleep through W's noise, but E wakes W up if he's up through the night. Like he did last night for example.

Cake I don't do finances, I keep the kids' old stuff for craft project, I don't particularly care about how the house is decorated and I do enough in the house - DH can do/does the bloody DIY!

Totally agree with you chul on the 'regrets on your deathbed' thing. Who is ever going to regret choosing cleaning/sorting etc over time with your kids? I need to remind myself of that a bit more often I think Grin

DesperateHousewife21 · 18/01/2012 19:07

Hi Emsie! Welcome back, hope you are keeping well :)

memphis they do sound like bratty kids but it's upto her to parent them it's just a shame when it's your dcs involved.

memphis83 · 18/01/2012 19:54

Oh I know dh I didnt just tell her, she was asking advice, as she has no family here but IL's and they dont believe in dicipline she didnt know what to do, her 5 yo has to be fed by her as she wont feed herself, she is a true brat, the HV is still involved with her as she is so highly strung, two of the other women stopped meeting up because of her kids, I feel bad because I want to stop too, we are meeting at soft play next week, so wont be just the two of them in a room , L will be off climbing!

DesperateHousewife21 · 18/01/2012 20:37

She sounds like she's having quite a hard time. I think I would too if I had kids like that. Hope the soft play goes better.

D has been asleep for an hour so better than yesterday. Don't mine him waking up it's when it's at half 8/9 then I get hardly any eve to myself. Still I've managed to have sex and watch desperate housewives so I'm satisfied!