September 2011 babies are rolling into 2012

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Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz

Loves glad your ds is better and good luck with the routine

Glad DS is better Loves, hope the routine goes well. How are you planning to tackle it?

to CTS, that must be miserable Sebs

Jojo how's the housing situation? I think you're brilliant the way that you come one here and chat about everyone else when you've got troubles like that in your life. I'm not sure that I would function anywhere near as well as you seem to be!

Candr hope you're having fun with your twin. Are you identical? I'm fascinated to know whether children of identical twins look more like each other than 'regular' cousins do so you'll have to let us know when she's got around to it! And yes, it's lovely when your DCs have cousins to play with. My nieces (8 and 6) absolutely adore DS and DD. They tend to whip DS off to their bedrooms and dress him up and make him do karaoke which is v I don't have anything in common with my SiL and I can only handle her and her kids in small-ish doses but I like that our kids have a great relationship. I really wish my DBro would grow up and have some babies (he's in his 30s but having a second teenage-hood).

DS is being a little sod today. He hit DD and pulled and pushed her about while she was in the doorway bouncer. I know it's because DH is working and so DS is having to share me with DD but I was at the end of my rope this morning. The temptation to just leave the two DCs at the front desk of DH's work and then just take the credit card and book into a 5* hotel for the rest of the weekend was almost overwhelming

Thanks for the hugs feral, geekmum, sebs, TP, minky and ssmile.

I think it's funny we now seem to have nicknamed the sophie a posh dog toy! And I like the soaky that Ferals DS calls it.

Feral, hugs for you too, sorry you are having trouble with LO and that you feel like you need to escape.

Geekmum, ouch to the blister, fortunately that's not happened so far, and the majority of the time the latch is good, but when it's bad it's really bad. I've started running again :)

sebs are we going to have the hen do in here, or will we have it elsewhere? Who is chief organiser of said henthreadparty? I have a few outfits I'm thinking of, if others are having their hair done etc then I'm wearing a posh frock :) Great news about your friend. :)

candr, enjoy your time with your sis. How is it having a twin?

ssmile, I hope your friend is OK. I've not thought about nipple shields tbh, I did before I had the tie cut, but it's only really in the middle of the night when her latch is very poor. It has been better yesterday, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed we've sorted it, but I'll bear it in mind. Glad you have found a sling you are happy with. I personally love my Moby, but I know everyone is different.

jojo, hope you get some rest.

Loves, I think sometimes chillis don't have as much heat in them as you would think they do, it's very difficult to get the right level of heat as all chillis are different.

My baby therefore is definitely not french if sleeping through is what the standard is. She's kind of settled down a bit again now (I hate saying this for fear it will change) but the nights have gone roughly like this for the past few days - sleep at between 7 and 8, wake 3/4 hr later for a feed straight back down, wake at 10:45 ish feed, wake 2am feed, wake 5ish feed, wake at 7ish feed, wake proper 8:30 - 9am. So we've gone from 2 night wakenings to 5 if you count the initial one after she has just gone down!!!!! Although I don't really count the first one as it's just after her first sleep cycle and I think she doesn't always take the full amount before she goes off, and occasionally we miss the 7am wake, so it could really be counted as 3. But in the day she's fine, not starving hungry, and I still don't think she needs weaning. She doesn't always take a lot of feed at the 2am wakening, and I don't know if a cuddle would settle her when she wakes, but it's just easier to feed her back off again. Maybe I'll try and see if she settles quickly with a cuddle and feed her if not, but I don't want to deny her food.

I think there are a couple of amber necklace websites, a friend of mine recommended these people and I've just revisited their website and they now sell sophie the giraffe!!! My LO is coming on leaps and bounds with her rolling and moving forwards, but the past few days she's ending up doing it mainly one handed as her other hand is permanently in her mouth! It's hindering her progress! Although she still managed to move forwards 2 foot this morning to reach her lamaze doll! Determined little one.

Running again this afternoon. Had a trip to the local farmers market this morning, so we have LOADS of nice goodies to eat and loads in the freezer now, I love the farmers market.

And I've ordered the 30day Shred!

Oh and another one that a friend used for amber necklaces was this site not sure which are the better of the two, but had both of them recommended by friends. :)

feralgirl hope your sibling rivaly settles down. I had a week before last like that but this week my DD been Fab with babe. It's exhausting though when they acting up like that.

100 hope you get on ok with the Shred! It's the only home workout that I've done that I can honestly say is working but its flipping hard to start with. I don't have any weights yet but found rice pud tins were half kilo, and a one litre squash bottle was 1kilo filled with water. They been enough for me to get going. I've done level one nine times now, every other day and I'm actually thinking of tryin level two now...oooh er. I did it this morning and my DD wanted to Join in but she couldn't keep up with doing 30secs of stat jumps :o very pleased I out jumped my very lively daughter heehee and I'd already done 20mins on my bike as a warm up.

Lo is feeding on average every 2-3hrs the last 3 nights I'm am just really hoping that weaning improves this again as its very tiring as she also stopped resettling quickly after the feeds as well. I did try at 3am to just leave her for a bit, as I was too tired to get up so dozed till 3.30am when I gave in and fed her, she was very hungry and then didn't resettle until 4.30am, by which point I wish I'd just got up earlier to feed her but I had fed her at 1am so thought she can't need me again! Grrrrrrr

My friend is out of hospital for the weekend at the moment but back in Monday for more monitoring. They hoping they can keep baby going to 34wks, so I have fingers &toes crossed for them.

Hope we all have good sleeps tonight, and nice Sundays :)

Ssmile it's really difficult isn't it? I've been trying to let DD re-settle herself at night but, like you and 100, a feed is so much easier and quicker and just means that we all get back to sleep that much sooner. I have no will power at 3am, strangely enough!

DS has continued to be a horror this afternoon and actually stamped on his sister DS thought that the naughty step was a brilliant laugh this afternoon until I started very obviously playing with DD and he could hear that he was being excluded from the fun, then he started to behave himself again. Any other tips for how to discipline toddlers? Like geekmum said a few posts back, Super Nanny makes it all look so easy!

I never thought I'd say it but by midday today I was actually looking forward to going into school and doing my first KIT day on Monday!

Good effort on the running 100 btw.

Ooh thankfully that's over for a while - takeaway night with my dad, twin brother, sil, half sister and her Bf plus dh was hard going. I realised today that my twin is morphing into my dad with his self importance and arrogant attitude and my half sister is getting even more cunning to ensure she wraps my dad around her little finger. I have also realised that as far as my father goes, I am bottom of the favourite list with dsis in 1st place (always has been since she was born and I have even overheard my father say this several times after a few drinks to virtual strangers !) and dtwinbro is def in 2nd place.
The whole event has left me very unsettled and upset for many reasons but also coming on a day when I had attended the funeral of my friends dad who was clearly very loved and had over 400 people at his funeral and 4 people including both his kids queuing up to tell the assembled throng what a wonderful man he was, didn't help matters. I realised today that when anything happens to my dad, I am not sure I could say anything too positive about him as a father or grandfather and to be honest that makes me very sad and guilty but then I kind of think that he has brought that on himself.
Having stayed in bed until 2pm today, my dad finally got up (the dcs had been waiting to see him for 7 hours) he ate the bacon rolls I made him and then said he had to leave because there was an issue with his car and he wanted to get back before dark. The poor kids were quite confused at why grandad left like a bat out of hell. I won't even start on my twins behaviour or his comment that lo was cute but not as much as his step grand-daughter (I felt like removing him from the house at this stage) basically it went from bad to worse and then dh and I got left with £100 takeaway bill that my father was meant to cover (have since phoned and requested assistance with that and he has phoned to say a cheque is on the way - wouldn't mind but dh and I have the lowest income out of everyone at the moment and it's always us that hosts these get togethers. Anyway, just proves that families are complicated. Rant over I will now apologise for my me me me moan and say that I read all posts and hope that things work out for everyone as they hope.

Hugs minkkyj hope the rant helped!

Up 5x last night even changed her nappy at 4.30am which I never normally do but think she taking so much milk in overnight it getting uncomfy around 4am, (despite size 4 nappy now!) still feel very blessed she resettled after yet another feed and slept 5-8am :)

Hope you guys faired better

Thanks ssmile, they email I have had said it has been dispatched, so I'm expecting it in the next couple of days Oh bike, erm I have a turbo, I've just not set it up again since I was pg. Are you weaning now? Sorry I've lost track of who is and who isn't. I hope your friend keeps baby incubating a bit longer.

feral, thanks. :( To DS stamping on DD. I've heard recommendations about the book 'Toddler Taming' a lot of friends I know who have older children highly rate it.

Minky, sounds a bit of a nightmare evening.

I think I might have had a 4 hour gap between feeds last night! I know LO woke at one point, but wasn't awake enough for me to pick her up, so I left her and she went back off, now I can't remember if that was before that 4 hour stint or during it!

I did go for my run yesterday, it felt really good, although my one calf is a little bit tight today, but not in a 'I'm worried about it' way.

Feel a bit of a cranky pants today, and LO is struggling herself, lots of whinging an a bit bout of tears from her earlier on, she's chomping on everything and dribbling so much today, but doesn't have red cheeks, so I'm not sure if it is teeth or not. I also have a headache and I want half an hour to hide out in the bedroom in quiet, but the 'quiet' I got earlier on was broken after 7 minutes when OH came in with LO saying she wanted me, cue a fight to feed her for a while. I feel a bit guilty for saying I want some peace, I wouldn't change anything for the world, but I just wanted half an hour or maybe even just 20 minutes in the quiet. And I know that I signed up for all this, but it feels easier for OH to get a break from LO (as he's not feeding and so it's down to me) than it is for me to do that. And I don't have any problems with my OH, that's not what I'm saying at all. Just a bit tired I think and feels like it's non stop sometimes.

OMG, I've just read some of the reviews about that book I have just said about, apparently one of the suggestions the author uses is to tie string to the door of the LO's room so they can't open it very far and therefore can't get out. Erm, maybe I should have read the reviews before posting which book I've heard about. It must have a lot of good stuff in it though as the people I know who have used it wouldn't have done the string thing, but I wish I hadn't said anything now as I don't want people to think I'd do something like that if they read the reviews themselves and wonder what I was doing saying about this book!

Yes, hugs to you Minky - at least you said, it's over for a while now.

It seems the older these babies are getting... the worse their sleep is getting! How's that work?

And, well done to Ssmile and 100 on the Shred DVD... just reading the intro in Amazon made me tired. But, must do something like that (might even order the DVD...yikes) I've got no energy at the moment, and doing something like that I'm sure will help. I'm trying to get a good walk each day with LO and the dog, but when the weather is really bad I can't really take LO out - and it's minus numbers up here at the moment, with threatened snow :( Did my shopping today just in case I'm snowed in tomorrow!

Ooh, virtual hen party on a new thread - sounds a good idea! My "real" hen do is now booked for middle of May - and a mate and I have made initial plans - we're off to London! Although Manchester and Liverpool are closer to me (as I live in North Wales) London is only 2 hours from Chester, and I know it so much better (as I used to live there) and love going back for what I call "Richard Curtis Days" ... where you live up the best parts of London as if in a Richard Curtis movie!! So, we're thinking Vinopolis, Belgo, Cocktails and Covent Garden!! Should be great - and if we book early enough hopefully get cheap train tickets and cheap flat or hotel. Will be weird being away from LO from Saturday morning to Sunday afternoon, but as OH is going away next week from Sunday to Wednesday (and will be few a times a year - with work) I think I'll be due the break!

Bought a few weaning things today - just mat to hold the bowls down, bowl, soons and little tubs, and some baby rice and porridge. ONly got them as they were on offer in supermarket, but best to have them for when I finally decide to start weaning. She fed at 8pm last night - the latest in a while, and I thought she'd go through to about 2am like she used to... but no, she woke at her usual 11pm for her next feed - and 3 hours between bottle feeds is quite short. She still then goes through till the morning, so I'mstill not convinced she's ready for weaning, but will be soon, I'm sure.

Must admit, I'm feeling a bit low recently. I know I'm so lucky to be where I am and have wanted this for soooooo long - and I have the wedding to look forward to, but I think it's just 4 to 5 month old stage - they need more attention as they're awake in the day more, but can't do anything much themselves yet so get frustrated... that coupled with continued lack of sleep for god knows how long now (as sleep deprevation started in PG) and the fact it's mid winter and I'm living half hour from friends, Dad and civilisation, OH spending much of the weekend with his son's sporting things, and we're going to bed at 9pm after spending the evenings putting her to bed, and sorting the other 2 kids out, so I hardly get to talk to OH now... I know it's a phase and will pass but whilst you're going through the phase it's just hard. I also am missing someone, anyone, I can leave my LO with ... I really can't leave her with my Dad as he can't pick her up for long with his dodgy shoulder, and then we're out of options... my friends have a night out booked on 21st March - for girls and partners - and I really hope we can sort something so both of us can go. Just depends on how she is sleeping by then.

Anyway, sorry, rant over and will stop feeling sorry for myself as I know I am SOOO lucky to be where I am with my much wanted LO and OH and step kids... but, roll on Spring... sunshine, flowers, and longer days!!!!! I hate January... at least it'll be over soon!!!

Sorry, guys, right... smile on ... hope you all having good weekends... !

Sorry, just wanted to apologise again for my rant. Really shouldn't moan...

And, also as I missed your post 100, just wanted to say hope you do get some time "off" - and the 4 hours break between feeds is excellent and hope this keeps up.

And... also to say thanks everyone about your comments re CTS - the wrist splint does seem to help, although it's not been too good today, but hopefully it's on the mend.

Aw sebs. I know exactly what you mean. And don't feel bad for 'ranting' as you put it. Sometimes it gets to us, and that's ok for that to happen, doesn't mean we want it any less or aren't happy with the good stuff, but you can't be all the time. I suppose I'm just trying to say its normal and I myself understand and was feeling a bit the same myself.

I have actually had an hour in bed. I left LO with oh as my head was getting bad and went for a lie down, heard some crying when I first came through but it stopped quite soon and so I figured oh would come through if I was needed. Anyway ended up asleep for about 40mins. Head not great yet but it's no worse which it was getting.

Found out the crying was because she'd banged her head but she was fine soon after.

100 hope your head feels better. Is it just tiredness or a migraine? Either way I hope you feel better soon.

Sebs don't apologise for your rant - especially as you described exactly how I feel at the moment. I also feel guilty for feeling it! But I guess we should give ourselves a break. It helps to know that others feel this way too! Can't talk about it to friends though - don't want them to misunderstand.

Minky I'm sorry you had such a crappy night. I hope I'm not overstepping my mark by saying this but would you like your relatives if they weren't related to you? I finally figured this out with my brother and sister-in-law, made me realise that as they weren't people I'd like socially, that I shouldn't really give a toss as to their opinion of me and should stop making such an effort myself to include them. Life is a lot easier now, cards and gifts for birthdays and Christmas and seeing brother about once a year (not SIL as she makes her own excuses - last time it was a hangover, so she still hasn't met her only nephew, not that I'm bothered). Anyway, whatever you do, big hugs your way as its a really frustrating situation to be in.

Hoping to get more sleep tonight, might try and look up that book, sounds hilarious! (as long as no one is actually locking babies up in rl!)

Btw Sebs your hen sounds fun, wish I was coming along ! And which supermarket did you get the weaning stuff from?

I think it was on its way to migraine but sleeping when I did seemed to stop
It progressing. I took 2 paracetamol when I got up too so it's practically gone now. But oh said something which I had actually thought myself, it was the fact I've been out of sorts the past 2 days in a mini grump, I seem to do that before I get a bad head, maybe it's a reaction to the mood swing or maybe the mood is a early warning of a bad head.

LO was very very upset going to bed tonight, half an hour maybe more of tears. Lots of hands in mouth. Poor thing.

I've been moody as well, am hoping it's just tiredness and not my period looming! Glad you're feeling better.

Hope your lo settles down for a long sleep too!

Thanks. Maybe it's just tiredness for both of us, AF was only 2 weeks ago and I really don't want it to be again so soon.

I hope she does too, but I can currently hear furious thumb sucking going on so I'm not convinced. Hey Ho, I'm getting used to it!

feralgirl -not quite sure yet how I'm going to do tge routine cause it needs to take into account dd as well.

Candr - do you get bored with questions about being a twin? My nan was a triplet, I've always been a bit sad it seems to have been a one off

Ssmile - I'm another one hoping weaning will help with night time. He is so much more interested in food and putting things to our mouth than dd ever was. I think this is partly why he won't go to bed early, he doesn't want to miss us eating

Minkyjj - this is tge place for ranting. Funerals have a bad habit of making you evaluate what's going on.

100years - you can't backtrack now we all know you tie the doors shut

I am now making a new rule no-one can say sorry for ranting [ grin]

This weekend went so quick. I hate that I can afford to do tge things I want with ds, he is missing out on what I did with dd. I am living for the weekends when dh is home and it goes sooo quickly.

Thanks for your words guys! It is good to know others feel the same. Had a good chat with OH, as well as going to bed right after LO - at 8pm, so feel better this morning. Sun is shining too - might have something to do with it - perhaps I've got that SAD syndrome you get in the winter! But OH and I decided we might try go away for a weekend soon - it'll be good to do something nice all together for the weekend, where OH doesn't have to go off to watch kids football or coach the U 13 cricket team!

She didn't do too bad last night either - gave her 8oz of milk before bedtime... yikes! And she took all of it no problems. She went for 5 hours till next feed, so did the trick ... will do that this week and just see how she gets on... she's 20 weeks on Friday, and for some reason I'll feel ok about weaning after that milestone?? But if the extra oz at night helps for now, then I'll go with that for now.

100 - hope the headache went, and you got a better night? And AF doesn't come back so soon. And, hope LO feels better too... teething is horrible, isn't it?

Geekmum - it was Sainsburys - there was a 3 for 2 offer on Tommee Tippee bowls, spoons etc. Also, hope you feel better too.

And... Lovesskinnyjeans - loving the new rule about ranting!!!

And... don't we all tie the doors shut??? No??? (Or is it just the French??)

After 3wks of four+ feeds a night I've just given babe her first baby rice which she appeared to enjoy! Only half tsp but a start she is 22.5wks.
I too been grumpy lately bit but think its just the tiredness getting too me. I walked to school last week and got quite down at the thought of doing the same walk for the next 11yrs....with DD1 then this Lo. But I always get bit :( when my birthday looming and its the last one of the thirtys, hence the fitness drive don't want to get to 40next yr and be fat. I think if I keep at it I should be at my comfy weight by Easter but its tough going when your tired.

Hope we all feel a bit brighter soon, sorry I'm on my phone and can't remember individual posts.

Aww Minky your post made me for you. How horrible that your family made you so miserable. And venting anger is always fine of course. Big sympathy.

Cheers 100, I'll see if I can get Toddler Taming out of the library and just skip the bits about string on doors! Our house was built before things like disabled access were considered and all the original door handles are too high up for DS to reach them which is ace. I did read an MN tip about using olive oil on door handles so that they're too slippery for toddlers to grip and set themselves free in the middle of the night And I totally get what you're saying about time off. YADNBU!

Sebs I think a lot of people get a touch of SAD, it's only natural after all. When I lived in Newcastle my GP diagnosed me as suffering; it got better as soon as we moved back down to the South West where we get so much more light and sun! At least it's beginning to draw out a bit in the evenings now and the birds are awake and singing when I wake up at 7am now

Smile that is a bit depressing about the school run! Wow, I hadn't thought about it like that! At least ours is only 2 minutes...

Loves it is depressing not being able to afford to do what you want to do isn't it? We are beyond skint! Today was my payday and it's all gone straight back out on bills. I keep telling myself that it's worth getting in debt now so that we can have time off with the DCs when they're babies and we'll just have to forego big holidays and nice cars for a few more years.

Today I went into school to do a KIT day which was great and I didn't miss DD at all. DH looked after her all day and I think it was OKish (but he did say he left her to howl for 10 mins as she wouldn't settle for a nap and I was a bit about that). She was famished when I got home though as she'd only snacked a bit on EBM in my absence.

feralgirl it's easy for you to say it doesn't matter about holidays, you live where I go on holiday

By 6.30am Ive eaten hot cross bun &4bits chocolate crap night again, Lo has her 3rd cold, she only 5mths old, utter bollocks BF protecting them against germs :( she now gone back to sleep having been awake since 5am and I've now got to get up with DD1 to get ready for school and all I want to do is sink back under duvet and sleeeeeep